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	<title>Comments on: Wanted: ReWire Troubleshooting + Tips [Updated]</title>
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		<title>By: Juno106</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-341757</link>
		<dc:creator>Juno106</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all, i am having a probem using logic (pro 8) as master and live as slave but the problem is slightly different... get the dreaded "unable to process al data" system overlad message. i've been reading some of your posts tho and have a solution that worked for me for Logic Pro 7 and Live on mac os x. 

First, go into audio midi setup and enable the IAC midi driver.

Next start logic, then live as rewire.
Create your rewire audio objects as normal so that you are recieving audio from Live into the logic mixer.

Next, in the environment/click &#38; ports (is that what the layer is called??), make sure the midi in isn't being summed for all of your inputs (by default, Logic sums all available inputs. You need o manualy select which inputs you want logic to respond to (excluding the IAC driver). If you don't do this, logic will be trying to send and recieve data via the iac driver and it won't be pretty...

Create a new Multi instument and in the properties of the inrtument select the IAC driver as it's midi port. This means that this instrument will send midi data via this port.

you can now add one of the insturments from the multi into your arrangement. In Live, create a midi strip and assign it to recieve on the IAC driver and select the same midi channel you have selected in Logic. Also, in Live, make sure you are not recieving on any of your other midi ports (switch them off in preferences) as you may find that you're just playing live from your keyboard and not really from logic. you should now be able to use Live's instruments as kind of "plug in's" via rewire... has worked great for me except now i have moved to Logic 8 i get System overloads.... BASTARDS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all, i am having a probem using logic (pro 8) as master and live as slave but the problem is slightly different&#8230; get the dreaded &#8220;unable to process al data&#8221; system overlad message. i&#8217;ve been reading some of your posts tho and have a solution that worked for me for Logic Pro 7 and Live on mac os x. </p>
<p>First, go into audio midi setup and enable the IAC midi driver.</p>
<p>Next start logic, then live as rewire.<br />
Create your rewire audio objects as normal so that you are recieving audio from Live into the logic mixer.</p>
<p>Next, in the environment/click &amp; ports (is that what the layer is called??), make sure the midi in isn&#8217;t being summed for all of your inputs (by default, Logic sums all available inputs. You need o manualy select which inputs you want logic to respond to (excluding the IAC driver). If you don&#8217;t do this, logic will be trying to send and recieve data via the iac driver and it won&#8217;t be pretty&#8230;</p>
<p>Create a new Multi instument and in the properties of the inrtument select the IAC driver as it&#8217;s midi port. This means that this instrument will send midi data via this port.</p>
<p>you can now add one of the insturments from the multi into your arrangement. In Live, create a midi strip and assign it to recieve on the IAC driver and select the same midi channel you have selected in Logic. Also, in Live, make sure you are not recieving on any of your other midi ports (switch them off in preferences) as you may find that you&#8217;re just playing live from your keyboard and not really from logic. you should now be able to use Live&#8217;s instruments as kind of &#8220;plug in&#8217;s&#8221; via rewire&#8230; has worked great for me except now i have moved to Logic 8 i get System overloads&#8230;. BASTARDS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-322799</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I have the same problem.... 
Cannot for the life of me work it out. 

ANYONE KNOW what to do? is it reason 4, or ableton 6.0.10? or vista? because i was running reason 3, 6.0 something (not 10) and xp and it was all fine, updated everything and now have no idea whats wrong. 
HELP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I have the same problem&#8230;.<br />
Cannot for the life of me work it out. </p>
<p>ANYONE KNOW what to do? is it reason 4, or ableton 6.0.10? or vista? because i was running reason 3, 6.0 something (not 10) and xp and it was all fine, updated everything and now have no idea whats wrong.<br />
HELP!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-288691</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Ableton 6.0.10 and Reason 4.0 installed on my Windows Vista...and even reinstalling, i've never got to see Reason on the Ableton's "Audio From" thing. Any ideas? I'm almost desperate! 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Ableton 6.0.10 and Reason 4.0 installed on my Windows Vista&#8230;and even reinstalling, i&#8217;ve never got to see Reason on the Ableton&#8217;s &#8220;Audio From&#8221; thing. Any ideas? I&#8217;m almost desperate! </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-280564</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to get audio from Logic to Live you can use jack. http://jackosx.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to get audio from Logic to Live you can use jack. <a href="http://jackosx.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jackosx.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Verschelden</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-21767</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Verschelden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" I understand you correctly, youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re trying to route MIDI from Logic (master) to Live (slave). (For instance, you want to record a MIDI track in Logic and have that play the Operator sampler in Live.)"

That is possible; it just doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t work in the included ReWire template that ships with Logic. You need to go into the Environment and create an *additional* ReWire object under MIDI Instruments Ã¢â‚¬â€? on top of the ReWire objects created for the audio returns. Then you need to assign that input to an Instrument track in the Arrange :window.

Same problem for me.
When I play the keyboard I hear Operator
Sending a miditrack from Logic does not work

I did this in the environment
New/internal/rewire
Put the object in the arrange, drag the miditrack in the rewire object
No sound

Settings in Live midi slot:
Midi from all ins
All channels
monitor auto
midi button red</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I understand you correctly, youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re trying to route MIDI from Logic (master) to Live (slave). (For instance, you want to record a MIDI track in Logic and have that play the Operator sampler in Live.)&#8221;</p>
<p>That is possible; it just doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t work in the included ReWire template that ships with Logic. You need to go into the Environment and create an *additional* ReWire object under MIDI Instruments Ã¢â‚¬â€? on top of the ReWire objects created for the audio returns. Then you need to assign that input to an Instrument track in the Arrange :window.</p>
<p>Same problem for me.<br />
When I play the keyboard I hear Operator<br />
Sending a miditrack from Logic does not work</p>
<p>I did this in the environment<br />
New/internal/rewire<br />
Put the object in the arrange, drag the miditrack in the rewire object<br />
No sound</p>
<p>Settings in Live midi slot:<br />
Midi from all ins<br />
All channels<br />
monitor auto<br />
midi button red</p>
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		<title>By: mark giblin</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-21176</link>
		<dc:creator>mark giblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm using Groove Agent 2 Rewired into Logic. Works fine but for one thing. Latency on playing the midi notes from my keyboard. Which makes it next to useless because I'm hearing the dums a spit second after I hit a key. I'm doing it this way because Logic won't read the extra outputs from Groove Agent if I open it as an AU in an instrument track. It only sees a stereo pair, even though I followed a lesson on how to make this work. Any ideas anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using Groove Agent 2 Rewired into Logic. Works fine but for one thing. Latency on playing the midi notes from my keyboard. Which makes it next to useless because I&#8217;m hearing the dums a spit second after I hit a key. I&#8217;m doing it this way because Logic won&#8217;t read the extra outputs from Groove Agent if I open it as an AU in an instrument track. It only sees a stereo pair, even though I followed a lesson on how to make this work. Any ideas anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if there is a way to rewire VSTs directly into Reason without some 3rd party application. Well, I mean I'd probably need one. But I was thinking of maybe some sort of plugin that simply rewires into reason, and then accepts VST input.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if there is a way to rewire VSTs directly into Reason without some 3rd party application. Well, I mean I&#8217;d probably need one. But I was thinking of maybe some sort of plugin that simply rewires into reason, and then accepts VST input.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand you correctly, you're trying to route MIDI from Logic (master) to Live (slave). (For instance, you want to record a MIDI track in Logic and have that play the Operator sampler in Live.) 

That is possible; it just doesn't work in the included ReWire template that ships with Logic. You need to go into the Environment and create an *additional* ReWire object under MIDI Instruments -- on top of the ReWire objects created for the audio returns. Then you need to assign that input to an Instrument track in the Arrange window.

(What, you expected the template called 'ReWire Slave' to actually let you use a ReWire Slave? Or maybe you thought the documentation would explain this clearly? Or maybe you thought it would work like every other program on the market?) 

Now, of course, if you're trying to do the reverse -- route MIDI from Live into Logic -- that is indeed impossible. But I'm guessing you're trying to go from Logic to Live.

Same is true of any other ReWire slave, incidentally. (What I'd love is to be able to control Logic as a ReWire slave from Live as a master, but I'm guessing that'll happen round the time that Apple starts making Intel-based Ma-- wait, bad example.)

Of course, you're right about the MidiPipe solution, which is quite brilliant for accomplishing many things not possible in Logic's ReWire implementation, like going the reverse direction.

I'm researching this more and plan to post detailed tutorials and templates soon; I want to make sure I've got it all right first and will try to run it by Apple.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand you correctly, you&#8217;re trying to route MIDI from Logic (master) to Live (slave). (For instance, you want to record a MIDI track in Logic and have that play the Operator sampler in Live.) </p>
<p>That is possible; it just doesn&#8217;t work in the included ReWire template that ships with Logic. You need to go into the Environment and create an *additional* ReWire object under MIDI Instruments &#8212; on top of the ReWire objects created for the audio returns. Then you need to assign that input to an Instrument track in the Arrange window.</p>
<p>(What, you expected the template called &#8216;ReWire Slave&#8217; to actually let you use a ReWire Slave? Or maybe you thought the documentation would explain this clearly? Or maybe you thought it would work like every other program on the market?) </p>
<p>Now, of course, if you&#8217;re trying to do the reverse &#8212; route MIDI from Live into Logic &#8212; that is indeed impossible. But I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;re trying to go from Logic to Live.</p>
<p>Same is true of any other ReWire slave, incidentally. (What I&#8217;d love is to be able to control Logic as a ReWire slave from Live as a master, but I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;ll happen round the time that Apple starts making Intel-based Ma&#8211; wait, bad example.)</p>
<p>Of course, you&#8217;re right about the MidiPipe solution, which is quite brilliant for accomplishing many things not possible in Logic&#8217;s ReWire implementation, like going the reverse direction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m researching this more and plan to post detailed tutorials and templates soon; I want to make sure I&#8217;ve got it all right first and will try to run it by Apple.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: selah</title>
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		<dc:creator>selah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I thought I'd send midi from Logic to Live through Rewire. Not possible, seemingly. Well, not through Rewire anyway, but it took me a good hour of trying to figure out what I was doing wrong to realize that the feature's just not there.

The solution is MidiPipe, which can work the other way and allow you to do something even more useful--control Logic's instruments with Live. Add audio with Soundflower or Jack and you've got Live's interface and all of Logic's effects and instruments. Not a bad rig.

Of course, you don't get Rewire's synchronizing features, but if you set Logic's and Live's transport functions to the same midi controls, you get nearly the same effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I thought I&#8217;d send midi from Logic to Live through Rewire. Not possible, seemingly. Well, not through Rewire anyway, but it took me a good hour of trying to figure out what I was doing wrong to realize that the feature&#8217;s just not there.</p>
<p>The solution is MidiPipe, which can work the other way and allow you to do something even more useful&#8211;control Logic&#8217;s instruments with Live. Add audio with Soundflower or Jack and you&#8217;ve got Live&#8217;s interface and all of Logic&#8217;s effects and instruments. Not a bad rig.</p>
<p>Of course, you don&#8217;t get Rewire&#8217;s synchronizing features, but if you set Logic&#8217;s and Live&#8217;s transport functions to the same midi controls, you get nearly the same effect.</p>
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		<title>By: djhalon</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/11/wanted-rewire-troubleshooting-tips-updated/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>djhalon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One tip that I want to throw out there is using ReWire apps with Plug-in latency compensation in your DAW.  This may seem an obvious tip, but it was a mistake I made when we first started using Reason in DP 4.5.

We were taking some older Reason projects and applying Altverb to some of the sources. At first I was just bringing the Reason audio into the DAW then applying Altverb to the channel.  The issue was that we were seeing odd delay and offsets in the way everything was being played back.

The cause of these problems is that your DAW doesnâ€™t know what is coming in from the ReWire source so it canâ€™t do the look ahead syncing for the latency so sometimes it gets it right but usually youâ€™re ReWire audio comes in first then the rest of the audio starts playing.

The way around this is to bring the ReWire audio in, bounce to disk, then apply your effects as needed. Outside of that, ReWire has treated us well in DPâ€¦

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One tip that I want to throw out there is using ReWire apps with Plug-in latency compensation in your DAW.  This may seem an obvious tip, but it was a mistake I made when we first started using Reason in DP 4.5.</p>
<p>We were taking some older Reason projects and applying Altverb to some of the sources. At first I was just bringing the Reason audio into the DAW then applying Altverb to the channel.  The issue was that we were seeing odd delay and offsets in the way everything was being played back.</p>
<p>The cause of these problems is that your DAW doesnâ€™t know what is coming in from the ReWire source so it canâ€™t do the look ahead syncing for the latency so sometimes it gets it right but usually youâ€™re ReWire audio comes in first then the rest of the audio starts playing.</p>
<p>The way around this is to bring the ReWire audio in, bounce to disk, then apply your effects as needed. Outside of that, ReWire has treated us well in DPâ€¦</p>
<p>J.</p>
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