Comments on: Digidesign Unveils New Mbox 2 — Here’s What’s Different http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:56:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Adam Maniku http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-118219 Adam Maniku Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:46:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-118219 I could not open my protools and the Mac book pro do not recognizse my Mbx2 without an iLoc. I did not get one when I bought the Mbox 2. Please advise how i can install an iLock. I could not open my protools and the Mac book pro do not recognizse my Mbx2 without an iLoc. I did not get one when I bought the Mbox 2. Please advise how i can install an iLock.

]]> By: Adam Maniku http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-118217 Adam Maniku Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:43:45 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-118217 I bought an Mbox2 in Singapore and coming back to Maldives I learned from the manual i need an iLoc for my macbook pro which I could not find in the box in which the Mbox 2 is packed in. What can i do to activate my Mbox2 now? Now my trial period is over I could not run the Protool software without it. I bought an Mbox2 in Singapore and coming back to Maldives I learned from the manual i need an iLoc for my macbook pro which I could not find in the box in which the Mbox 2 is packed in. What can i do to activate my Mbox2 now?

Now my trial period is over I could not run the Protool software without it.

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1433 Guest Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:36:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1433 mbox 2 rules have any of you guys tried it? the mic pre's are better than before with lillte to no latency.yes it has 2 ins but you can use 2 digital ins for a total of 4 how many of you guys record more than 4 tracks at a time? the software they give you with this beast is almost like waves diamond and all for 500.00 were not talking tdm guys were talking entry level pro tools for the average joe schmoe its a killer system if you take the time to get into it. bottom line is this the original mbox to a studio owner for years is a toy. this little box will get your demos heard if not signed take it from a pro. who has almost 250,000 worth of equipment. mbox 2 rules have any of you guys tried it? the mic pre’s are better than before with lillte to no latency.yes it has 2 ins but you can use 2 digital ins for a total of 4 how many of you guys record more than 4 tracks at a time? the software they give you with this beast is almost like waves diamond and all for 500.00 were not talking tdm guys were talking entry level pro tools for the average joe schmoe its a killer system if you take the time to get into it. bottom line is this the original mbox to a studio owner for years is a toy. this little box will get your demos heard if not signed take it from a pro. who has almost 250,000 worth of equipment.

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1432 Guest Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:41:56 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1432 I bought an MBox on Aug 29. My dealer didn't say that the MBox was about to be replaced. MBox2 gets announced a couple of days later. I ask my dealer to exchange for MBox2. Dealer asks for $75 re-stocking fee. Seriously lame. Expensive enough that I will fight this. I bought an MBox on Aug 29. My dealer didn’t say that the MBox was about to be replaced. MBox2 gets announced a couple of days later. I ask my dealer to exchange for MBox2. Dealer asks for $75 re-stocking fee. Seriously lame. Expensive enough that I will fight this.

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1431 Guest Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1431 After looking @ the Digi site, it seems that the analog outs are only <em>unbalanced</em>!! Also dissapointed about the loss of inserts (although have never used them on the original Mbox...) Given the plethora of mic pre/chanel strip-type bits of gear around, maybe it's not such a big deal. especially if the pre-channel strip has spdif out. DBX make one that's not bad (586, 576 or something?)-a bit expensive tho. Also would be great if Mbox 2 got rid of the niose from the built-in phantom PS on the original.. it's pretty average... After looking @ the Digi site, it seems that the analog outs are only unbalanced!! Also dissapointed about the loss of inserts (although have never used them on the original Mbox…) Given the plethora of mic pre/chanel strip-type bits of gear around, maybe it’s not such a big deal. especially if the pre-channel strip has spdif out. DBX make one that’s not bad (586, 576 or something?)-a bit expensive tho. Also would be great if Mbox 2 got rid of the niose from the built-in phantom PS on the original.. it’s pretty average…

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1430 Guest Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:48:45 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1430 I haven't actually seen one yet but it looks nice. I have really liked my Mbox but I would have liked to use S/PDIF as well as the analog and it seems that you can do that now. I never used the inserts but I am sure someone would think that was a good thing. The lack of that isn't somehting that is that bad Also, a monitor volume knob is very welcome by a lot of people. All in all, I don't see much reason to upgrade my current system but if I ever need 4 tracks, I will certainly look into it. BTW, Focusrite gone? Doesn't mean the pres aren't as good. I haven’t actually seen one yet but it looks nice.
I have really liked my Mbox but I would have liked to use S/PDIF as well as the analog and it seems that you can do that now.
I never used the inserts but I am sure someone would think that was a good thing.
The lack of that isn’t somehting that is that bad
Also, a monitor volume knob is very welcome by a lot of people.

All in all, I don’t see much reason to upgrade my current system but if I ever need 4 tracks, I will certainly look into it.

BTW, Focusrite gone? Doesn’t mean the pres aren’t as good.

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1429 Guest Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:05:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1429 Well stated... a digidesign hostage. And perhaps you're right - instead of 'Pro Tools LE' they should just release software called 'Tools' with the Mbox.. it wouldn't be a total lie then. Well stated… a digidesign hostage.

And perhaps you’re right - instead of ‘Pro Tools LE’ they should just release software called ‘Tools’ with the Mbox.. it wouldn’t be a total lie then.

]]> By: Guest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1428 Guest Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:20:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1428 Too bad Digi wants HOSTAGES instead of customers. Somewhere about PT4.3, the "pro" aspect of all this fell through a crack. Pro's NEED reliable software, not multiple hardware dongles (iLock and mBox) with NO benefit to the user. I've long since jumped ship from the SS Avid-Digidesign-mAudio. Portable recoreding is with hardware, and the DAW is MOTU's Digital Performer 4.6, which still kicks @$$ in all things MIDI, while doing audio nicely. 2Track editing is with DSP-Quattro (i'm using a fraction of the capacity of this fantastic program). Hardware? RME HDSP 96/52. ASIO and no problems, no dongles. I still keep 2 fully functional Sound Designer II Mac's around, for the museum tourists. I'd buy a NuVerb! Cheers, and buy wisely. rufus13 Too bad Digi wants HOSTAGES instead of customers. Somewhere about PT4.3, the “pro” aspect of all this fell through a crack. Pro’s NEED reliable software, not multiple hardware dongles (iLock and mBox) with NO benefit to the user.

I’ve long since jumped ship from the SS Avid-Digidesign-mAudio. Portable recoreding is with hardware, and the DAW is MOTU’s Digital Performer 4.6, which still kicks @$$ in all things MIDI, while doing audio nicely. 2Track editing is with DSP-Quattro (i’m using a fraction of the capacity of this fantastic program). Hardware? RME HDSP 96/52. ASIO and no problems, no dongles.

I still keep 2 fully functional Sound Designer II Mac’s around, for the museum tourists. I’d buy a NuVerb!

Cheers, and buy wisely.

rufus13

]]> By: admin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1427 admin Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:34:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1427 I agree -- I've had trouble with the Core Audio drivers from Digi, as have many others. I've even heard of some ASIO issues on Windows. Running Pro Tools, it's rock-solid, but for other apps, it's an issue, especially compared to some of the easy solutions. As for USB, yes, USB has a lot less bandwidth. It's still possible to route 4 channels over USB, however. In fact, speaking of Tascam, that's exactly what their 422 does. And it works very reliably. 4 channels seems to be the upper limit, not two. But anyway, bandwidth isn't the issue, because you can record 4 channels simultaneously even on the Mbox -- the problem is, two have to be digital. There aren't four input jacks on the device, so the bandwidth question is physical (no jacks!). Peter I agree — I’ve had trouble with the Core Audio drivers from Digi, as have many others. I’ve even heard of some ASIO issues on Windows. Running Pro Tools, it’s rock-solid, but for other apps, it’s an issue, especially compared to some of the easy solutions.

As for USB, yes, USB has a lot less bandwidth. It’s still possible to route 4 channels over USB, however. In fact, speaking of Tascam, that’s exactly what their 422 does. And it works very reliably. 4 channels seems to be the upper limit, not two.

But anyway, bandwidth isn’t the issue, because you can record 4 channels simultaneously even on the Mbox — the problem is, two have to be digital. There aren’t four input jacks on the device, so the bandwidth question is physical (no jacks!).

Peter

]]> By: niall http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1426 niall Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:20:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/02/digidesign-unveils-new-mbox-2-heres-whats-different/#comment-1426 are pretty craptastic. if you're not buying their hardware for pro tools, you're just asking for trouble. are pretty craptastic. if you’re not buying their hardware for pro tools, you’re just asking for trouble.

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