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	<title>Comments on: Cakewalk, Top Windows Music Dev, Seeking Mac Beta Testers (But . . .) [Updated]</title>
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		<title>By: mclaren</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/09/26/cakewalk-top-windows-music-dev-seeking-mac-beta-testers-but-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-304862</link>
		<dc:creator>mclaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this most likely means is that the ongoing trainwreck called Microsoft Vist is starting to hurl shockwaves through all parts of the computer industry. If Ballmer &amp; company don&#039;t change course, I will have no choice but to switch to either the Mac or linux when my current hardware burns out. And hard drives &amp; motherboards don&#039;t last forever, you know. They do die on you. And what&#039;s worse, the faster the CPU and the bigger the hard drive, the more heat they generate, so the faster they tend to fry &amp; die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this most likely means is that the ongoing trainwreck called Microsoft Vist is starting to hurl shockwaves through all parts of the computer industry. If Ballmer &amp; company don&#8217;t change course, I will have no choice but to switch to either the Mac or linux when my current hardware burns out. And hard drives &amp; motherboards don&#8217;t last forever, you know. They do die on you. And what&#8217;s worse, the faster the CPU and the bigger the hard drive, the more heat they generate, so the faster they tend to fry &amp; die.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Cakewalk could recycle this statement from the Harmony Central page cited above.

&quot;What this means to professional and amateur musicians is that Cakewalk is committed to providing platform independence. No matter what a customer&#039;s preferred platform, Cakewalk will provide the tools they need,&quot; said Tom Cook, president of Cakewalk Music Software.

&quot;Cakewalk&#039;s company philosophy has always been to provide the most powerful, usable, and affordable music software solutions to the broadest range of customers. So our movement into the Mac marketplace is a logical extension of this philosophy: now we can offer solutions to customers across platforms.&quot;

theo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Cakewalk could recycle this statement from the Harmony Central page cited above.</p>
<p>&#8220;What this means to professional and amateur musicians is that Cakewalk is committed to providing platform independence. No matter what a customer&#8217;s preferred platform, Cakewalk will provide the tools they need,&#8221; said Tom Cook, president of Cakewalk Music Software.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cakewalk&#8217;s company philosophy has always been to provide the most powerful, usable, and affordable music software solutions to the broadest range of customers. So our movement into the Mac marketplace is a logical extension of this philosophy: now we can offer solutions to customers across platforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>theo</p>
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		<title>By: mute</title>
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		<dc:creator>mute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro was, indeed, something they bought from somebody else. I still have the old box at home somewhere.

It was able to interface with Deck II (which wasn&#039;t developed by Macromedia, but was bought from OSC and rereleased) and synchronize Metro&#039;s MIDI with Deck II&#039;s audio. When Metro 3 (or whatever version it was) came out with integrated audio, I was terribly disappointed. Metro&#039;s built-in audio was a big step down from the combined Metro/Deck system. It was slow, took forever to render the waveforms (even on my relatively fast PowerMac 8600/300, upgraded with a 500MHz G3, 512MB RAM, and a good FWSCSI card and 10,000RPM drive for audio), and crashed a lot. 

I ended up sticking with Metro 2.5 and Deck II. 

Deck II was a great piece of software, too-- inexpensive and (I thought) better than ProTools. It ran well on smallish Macs and produced results that sounded as good as anything out there. It was easy to use and very zippy.

Here&#039;s some more info on that:

http://sitenoise.com/deck/index.html

Ah ha, and here&#039;s where Cakewalk bought Metro from JS Technologies:

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM97/Cakewalk/metro.html

Post-buyout, neither piece of software held up well under major corporate featuritis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro was, indeed, something they bought from somebody else. I still have the old box at home somewhere.</p>
<p>It was able to interface with Deck II (which wasn&#8217;t developed by Macromedia, but was bought from OSC and rereleased) and synchronize Metro&#8217;s MIDI with Deck II&#8217;s audio. When Metro 3 (or whatever version it was) came out with integrated audio, I was terribly disappointed. Metro&#8217;s built-in audio was a big step down from the combined Metro/Deck system. It was slow, took forever to render the waveforms (even on my relatively fast PowerMac 8600/300, upgraded with a 500MHz G3, 512MB RAM, and a good FWSCSI card and 10,000RPM drive for audio), and crashed a lot. </p>
<p>I ended up sticking with Metro 2.5 and Deck II. </p>
<p>Deck II was a great piece of software, too&#8211; inexpensive and (I thought) better than ProTools. It ran well on smallish Macs and produced results that sounded as good as anything out there. It was easy to use and very zippy.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some more info on that:</p>
<p><a href="http://sitenoise.com/deck/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://sitenoise.com/deck/index.html</a></p>
<p>Ah ha, and here&#8217;s where Cakewalk bought Metro from JS Technologies:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM97/Cakewalk/metro.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM97/Cakewalk/metro.html</a></p>
<p>Post-buyout, neither piece of software held up well under major corporate featuritis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro was the second software sequencer I ever used, after dipping my toe in via Opcode&#039;s craptacular Musicshop program. 

I liked Metro quite a bit over 1998-2000, although it didn&#039;t get on well with my midisport. I recall fondly it&#039;s rhythm explorer feature and its quantize templates, which were pretty damn useful. The offline effects were a drag, but I didn&#039;t know any better about that until I got involved with Cubase, itself a temporary stop on my way to Logic. Nice to know the program&#039;s still around. Wonder who uses it? 

msd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro was the second software sequencer I ever used, after dipping my toe in via Opcode&#8217;s craptacular Musicshop program. </p>
<p>I liked Metro quite a bit over 1998-2000, although it didn&#8217;t get on well with my midisport. I recall fondly it&#8217;s rhythm explorer feature and its quantize templates, which were pretty damn useful. The offline effects were a drag, but I didn&#8217;t know any better about that until I got involved with Cubase, itself a temporary stop on my way to Logic. Nice to know the program&#8217;s still around. Wonder who uses it? </p>
<p>msd</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I learn more from the corrections to this site than I do from my own research.

Now if I can just be wrong / misleading more often, er . . . hmmm.

In all seriousness, I do remember Metro. And I think Z3TA+ is the strongest bet. Even if that doesn&#039;t change my opinion that they should make Project5 cross-platform. (notice, however, that Cakewalk has not appointed me to a leadership position, probably with good reason)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I learn more from the corrections to this site than I do from my own research.</p>
<p>Now if I can just be wrong / misleading more often, er . . . hmmm.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, I do remember Metro. And I think Z3TA+ is the strongest bet. Even if that doesn&#8217;t change my opinion that they should make Project5 cross-platform. (notice, however, that Cakewalk has not appointed me to a leadership position, probably with good reason)</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that Cakewalk also markets Z3TA+, a powerful and highly regarded soft-synth, and that the thread in question was in KVR&#039;s Instruments forum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that Cakewalk also markets Z3TA+, a powerful and highly regarded soft-synth, and that the thread in question was in KVR&#8217;s Instruments forum&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have fond memories of Cakewalk Metro, a decent Mac-only audio/midi sequencer. Metro 4 was my biggest-ever software purchase at the time (late &#039;90s). Cakewalk sold it to Sagan a few years ago, but you still couldn&#039;t call them a long-time Windows-only developer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have fond memories of Cakewalk Metro, a decent Mac-only audio/midi sequencer. Metro 4 was my biggest-ever software purchase at the time (late &#8217;90s). Cakewalk sold it to Sagan a few years ago, but you still couldn&#8217;t call them a long-time Windows-only developer&#8230;</p>
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