All good points about Nuendo; it wasn’t dislike at all — I just failed to fully contextualize this as I got a bit carried away.

Don’t we all do that? :)

I will take issue, however, with a computer card disqualifying something as “high-end,” as there are plenty of situations where sub-1 ms latency isn’t a deal-breaker.

I understand your words. Maybe my point was more to place Yamaha/Nuendo as also being hi-end rather than dismissing every other soundcard only solution.

I’d like to add that Cubase SX and Nuendo share the same code maybe more than 95%. Everything I said about Nuendo is also applicable to SX, which is a widely available high end ;) solution.

And I think you’re spot on in terms of why Nuendo + Yamaha is so cool. In fact, it proves the point: Nuendo 2 and Nuendo 3 have been steadily gaining ground in studios, and will continue to. (I’ll be interested to see what the buzz level is over at their booth . . .)

Anyway, I’m not a Nuendo user, and haven’t reviewed Nuendo (nor am I likely to, as it’s not my major area of expertise, as I indicated here).

I probably should be more careful of the term “high-end,” too, except I have no other way of distinguishing the person who’s creating some loops on their laptop from the person who does this 5 days a week in a multimillion-dollar studio!

I will take issue, however, with a computer card disqualifying something as “high-end,” as there are plenty of situations where sub-1 ms latency isn’t a deal-breaker. But this only goes to show, again, the term doesn’t mean anything: you either need something, or you don’t. And once you’ve seen the facts (plus non-factual evidence, like whether you *enjoy* working in Nuendo or Logic more, which shouldn’t be discounted, either), you ought to be able to make that call.

Peter

I think one should know Nuendo’s possibilities such as:

[LIST] external FX integration that lets you use DM2000’s internal FX as latency compensated send/returns inside Nuendo’s mixer
[LIST]Studio Manager integration that allows total recall of every mixer parameter “per project”
[LIST]Control surface with LED strips, 25 automated faders and rotary encoders and “selected channel” extra controllers
[LIST]expandable analog modelled DSP FX, etc…

I hardly fail to see this as a high-end hardware solution and it has been available for quite a long time for everybody to know about it. Try to do different cue mixes with eq, compressor and fx loops at less than 1ms. latency by using only a computer and a soundcard and I will tell you how easy that doesn’t qualify as a high-end solution.

Your dislike for Nuendo-Yamaha or maybe simply lack of knowledge (as I have found in the DAW reviews failing to acknowledge the latest Nuendo 3.x achievements) shouldn’t hide other simpler, well-stated facts.

BTW I also love Apogee’s products, just happen to know Yamaha’s product line also. :roll