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	<title>Comments on: 13-inch Intel MacBooks Arrive, Starting at $1099; Pluses, Caveats</title>
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		<title>By: The Cool Macbook Pro blog / 13-inch Intel MacBooks Arrive, Starting at $1099; All Great But &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cool Macbook Pro blog / 13-inch Intel MacBooks Arrive, Starting at $1099; All Great But &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kokorozashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kokorozashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 23:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glossy screen is now an option on MacBook Pro.
 
I would similarly expect such riots. Visual designer types are the ones you&#039;d think would like the contrast ratio, but they&#039;re also the ones who need a color on one part of the screen to match the same color on another part of the screen, and increased glare is going to screw that pooch right quick. (Of course, when color really counts, real visual pros are going to use CRT, but CRT ain&#039;t portable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glossy screen is now an option on MacBook Pro.</p>
<p>I would similarly expect such riots. Visual designer types are the ones you&#8217;d think would like the contrast ratio, but they&#8217;re also the ones who need a color on one part of the screen to match the same color on another part of the screen, and increased glare is going to screw that pooch right quick. (Of course, when color really counts, real visual pros are going to use CRT, but CRT ain&#8217;t portable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 22:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Roland: The only benchmarks I&#039;ve seen are the ones the folks in the Ableton forum are doing (though I think comparing CPU meter numbers is problematic), and the ones I did for Macworld with Logic. But I know developers are testing these things internally, so I&#039;ll try to see if any of them feel like sharing. ;)

Kokorazashi, I agree, absolutely. I don&#039;t get the glossy thing. These screens do look nice in the store, and that seems to be Apple&#039;s rationale (along with many PC makers). I don&#039;t agree with the Ars Technica writer that you can&#039;t find PCs with matte-finish displays, though; even in Best Buy there are plenty of matte laptops. 

As for reasons to buy a Windows laptop:
1. You never intend to use Mac OS. (True for many, making that issue moot.)
2. There&#039;s a PC that has a specific configuration you need (I think the MacBook / MBPro line looks great, but this is possible)
3. You love tablets

I don&#039;t see the fact that Windows is &quot;supported&quot; on PC laptops making much of a difference. I mean, support in general is pretty awful. If we&#039;re talking phone support, Apple&#039;s free support only lasts 90 days (unless you pay to extend it), and I&#039;ve *never* gotten useful information out of tech support people at companies like Toshiba and Dell.

What many people have pointed out for a long time is that Apple&#039;s laptop hardware is really, really great. The current case design I think is fantastic, little features like the sudden motion sensor, wide trackpad, backlit keyboard, and so on are terrific. It&#039;s just a terrific design, which is as much about utility as it is aesthetics. The only thing they could do to screw it up would be, oh, I don&#039;t know, to add a glossy screen? ;)

If MacBook Pros go glossy, I predict riots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Roland: The only benchmarks I&#8217;ve seen are the ones the folks in the Ableton forum are doing (though I think comparing CPU meter numbers is problematic), and the ones I did for Macworld with Logic. But I know developers are testing these things internally, so I&#8217;ll try to see if any of them feel like sharing. ;)</p>
<p>Kokorazashi, I agree, absolutely. I don&#8217;t get the glossy thing. These screens do look nice in the store, and that seems to be Apple&#8217;s rationale (along with many PC makers). I don&#8217;t agree with the Ars Technica writer that you can&#8217;t find PCs with matte-finish displays, though; even in Best Buy there are plenty of matte laptops. </p>
<p>As for reasons to buy a Windows laptop:<br />
1. You never intend to use Mac OS. (True for many, making that issue moot.)<br />
2. There&#8217;s a PC that has a specific configuration you need (I think the MacBook / MBPro line looks great, but this is possible)<br />
3. You love tablets</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the fact that Windows is &#8220;supported&#8221; on PC laptops making much of a difference. I mean, support in general is pretty awful. If we&#8217;re talking phone support, Apple&#8217;s free support only lasts 90 days (unless you pay to extend it), and I&#8217;ve *never* gotten useful information out of tech support people at companies like Toshiba and Dell.</p>
<p>What many people have pointed out for a long time is that Apple&#8217;s laptop hardware is really, really great. The current case design I think is fantastic, little features like the sudden motion sensor, wide trackpad, backlit keyboard, and so on are terrific. It&#8217;s just a terrific design, which is as much about utility as it is aesthetics. The only thing they could do to screw it up would be, oh, I don&#8217;t know, to add a glossy screen? ;)</p>
<p>If MacBook Pros go glossy, I predict riots.</p>
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		<title>By: kokorozashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kokorozashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exercise care! The MacBook has a glossy screen. You may find this unpleasantly surprising. More info here:
 
http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/5/16/4004
 
And, just to stay on topic with this post, why would you buy a computer which only runs Windows when you could get one with comparable hardware which runs both Windows AND Mac OS X -- AND IS CHEAPER?
 
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=185893&amp;cid=15341750
 
(caveat: if you compare Dell and Apple as manufacturers, Dell certainly has cheaper options)
 
(caveat caveat: you aren&#039;t buying a company, you&#039;re buying a computer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exercise care! The MacBook has a glossy screen. You may find this unpleasantly surprising. More info here:</p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/5/16/4004" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/5/16/4004</a></p>
<p>And, just to stay on topic with this post, why would you buy a computer which only runs Windows when you could get one with comparable hardware which runs both Windows AND Mac OS X &#8212; AND IS CHEAPER?</p>
<p><a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=185893&amp;cid=15341750" rel="nofollow">http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=185893&amp;cid=15341750</a></p>
<p>(caveat: if you compare Dell and Apple as manufacturers, Dell certainly has cheaper options)</p>
<p>(caveat caveat: you aren&#8217;t buying a company, you&#8217;re buying a computer)</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Peter, for your insight.

Do you happen to have any online resources of real-world benchmarks, specifically for audio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Peter, for your insight.</p>
<p>Do you happen to have any online resources of real-world benchmarks, specifically for audio?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the graphics chip is going to be ANY issue, unless you&#039;re doing 3D graphics, etc. The Intel chips work just fine for day-to-day displays . . . i.e., you&#039;re likely to max out the GPU running Unreal Tournament, but not Ableton Live. And it&#039;s extremely unlikely to directly impact audio performance. I&#039;ve never used one of these machines myself, but that&#039;s what I hear / what I&#039;ve seen in benchmarks, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the graphics chip is going to be ANY issue, unless you&#8217;re doing 3D graphics, etc. The Intel chips work just fine for day-to-day displays . . . i.e., you&#8217;re likely to max out the GPU running Unreal Tournament, but not Ableton Live. And it&#8217;s extremely unlikely to directly impact audio performance. I&#8217;ve never used one of these machines myself, but that&#8217;s what I hear / what I&#8217;ve seen in benchmarks, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: thesimplicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesimplicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After checking out some unboxing pics... this model seems to be incredibly easy to upgrade.  Remove the battery, the protective shield under that and the HDD and RAM are right there.  I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s also true for the Pro model, but it&#039;s a very welcome design decision.  I remember trying to upgrade the HDD on my old iBook myself... what a nightmare.  

Swap in a 7200RPM drive, some third party RAM... that&#039;s a half-decent and dirt cheap mobile DAW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After checking out some unboxing pics&#8230; this model seems to be incredibly easy to upgrade.  Remove the battery, the protective shield under that and the HDD and RAM are right there.  I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s also true for the Pro model, but it&#8217;s a very welcome design decision.  I remember trying to upgrade the HDD on my old iBook myself&#8230; what a nightmare.  </p>
<p>Swap in a 7200RPM drive, some third party RAM&#8230; that&#8217;s a half-decent and dirt cheap mobile DAW.</p>
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		<title>By: zerotwohero &#187; Blog Archive &#187; macbook pron</title>
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		<dc:creator>zerotwohero &#187; Blog Archive &#187; macbook pron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 16:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#039;s a quick and dirty review from Create Digital Music. As a portable music machine, unless you prefer bigger screens, it&#8217;s hard to go wrong with these computers. The only big downsides: black costs you extra, and like the mini before them, the integrated graphics are pretty limited for 3D. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#39;s a quick and dirty review from Create Digital Music. As a portable music machine, unless you prefer bigger screens, it&rsquo;s hard to go wrong with these computers. The only big downsides: black costs you extra, and like the mini before them, the integrated graphics are pretty limited for 3D. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 15:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi think this looks rather interesting but.....
What about the graphics onboard chip? This used to be a huuuuuge problem for audio, causing dropouts and other problems when graphics had to be handled by the main RAM. .
How about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi think this looks rather interesting but&#8230;..<br />
What about the graphics onboard chip? This used to be a huuuuuge problem for audio, causing dropouts and other problems when graphics had to be handled by the main RAM. .<br />
How about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 13:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not exactly in line to pick up a MacBook quite yet. If I was to buy an Apple computer, it would be to put together a tri boot system of Win/OSX/Linux, as there are a couple of OSX-only products I would love to take for a spin (SonicBirth and MOTU MX4 being two examples).

I&#039;m more or less waiting to see what kind of price the next tower is going to be. If it has the power, and the price is right (are we now living in a parallel universe where Apple only moderately overcharges ala Alienware?), I might pick one up when I have the cash to spare.

ATA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not exactly in line to pick up a MacBook quite yet. If I was to buy an Apple computer, it would be to put together a tri boot system of Win/OSX/Linux, as there are a couple of OSX-only products I would love to take for a spin (SonicBirth and MOTU MX4 being two examples).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more or less waiting to see what kind of price the next tower is going to be. If it has the power, and the price is right (are we now living in a parallel universe where Apple only moderately overcharges ala Alienware?), I might pick one up when I have the cash to spare.</p>
<p>ATA</p>
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