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	<title>Comments on: Image Line and the Mac: Not Quite Mac Zealots</title>
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		<title>By: Andyroo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-618699</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porting FL Studio to Mac is in fact possible and not that difficult. It required only one or two developers to invest a few months work.
Delphi is essentially Pascal, and pascal code can be compiled for linux and mac using open source software packages such as GNU Pascal. Since macs now run on Intel and OSX is linux based the options are growing.

Also, there are people trying to get FL Studio 6,7 and even 8 to run on WINE with partial success.
What if Image-Line hired Codeweavers to help out?
The beta version of the port would be out in weeks.
What makes the process time intensive is possible use of ImageLine's windows APIs
and porting the user interface part of the code.
The audio engine, etc should be straight forward.

I would personally contribute $1000 to such a port, as would no doubt 1000s of others, so why not gather money for the cause, i.e. paypal address for the imageline developer........... :)

PLEASE PORT FLSTUDIO TO MAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porting FL Studio to Mac is in fact possible and not that difficult. It required only one or two developers to invest a few months work.<br />
Delphi is essentially Pascal, and pascal code can be compiled for linux and mac using open source software packages such as GNU Pascal. Since macs now run on Intel and OSX is linux based the options are growing.</p>
<p>Also, there are people trying to get FL Studio 6,7 and even 8 to run on WINE with partial success.<br />
What if Image-Line hired Codeweavers to help out?<br />
The beta version of the port would be out in weeks.<br />
What makes the process time intensive is possible use of ImageLine&#8217;s windows APIs<br />
and porting the user interface part of the code.<br />
The audio engine, etc should be straight forward.</p>
<p>I would personally contribute $1000 to such a port, as would no doubt 1000s of others, so why not gather money for the cause, i.e. paypal address for the imageline developer&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. :)</p>
<p>PLEASE PORT FLSTUDIO TO MAC.</p>
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		<title>By: boogie</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-300741</link>
		<dc:creator>boogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REALLY wish they would port it over.. I've been a die hard pc person for at least 8, 9yrs but I bought a macbook  months ago.. and I swear if they 
port FL over to Mac I probably wont use my home pc at all... I just need a break from microsoft.. why is vista sooo expensive and for what... I still wouldn't go on the interenet with it, and have it be my main music computer... you can get Leopard for around 100 or so, but Vista insane...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REALLY wish they would port it over.. I&#8217;ve been a die hard pc person for at least 8, 9yrs but I bought a macbook  months ago.. and I swear if they<br />
port FL over to Mac I probably wont use my home pc at all&#8230; I just need a break from microsoft.. why is vista sooo expensive and for what&#8230; I still wouldn&#8217;t go on the interenet with it, and have it be my main music computer&#8230; you can get Leopard for around 100 or so, but Vista insane&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AkA</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-260109</link>
		<dc:creator>AkA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with Theron and Theo, my Windows usage is limited to FL Studio 7 (as well as the occasional  edit in Adobe Audition 2 - which has been surpassed by Soundtrack Pro on Mac anyway.) It still the best drum programming tool in my eyes, the mixer feature is incredible and the piano roll feature's ease of use allows my ideas to be put down much faster and easier than I ever could in Logic or Cubase (bearing in mind I don't use MIDI controllers to key my score in.)

But anyway, my point is that porting FL Studio to the Mac would be beneficial for the company as well as Mac users. Mac is increasingly seen as the superior system when it comes to working with digital audio. Whether that's true or not is open for debate, but Image-Line's primary objective is to make money (call me a cynic.) With the reputation Apple has in the industry, more and more musicians are switching from Windows, so surely a port would increase the amount of amateurs and professionals using FL? (imagine FL plugging into Logic/Pro Tools) Within those professionals, there would undoubtedly be some revered artists, and that would be an advertising campaign in itself... 

/rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with Theron and Theo, my Windows usage is limited to FL Studio 7 (as well as the occasional  edit in Adobe Audition 2 - which has been surpassed by Soundtrack Pro on Mac anyway.) It still the best drum programming tool in my eyes, the mixer feature is incredible and the piano roll feature&#8217;s ease of use allows my ideas to be put down much faster and easier than I ever could in Logic or Cubase (bearing in mind I don&#8217;t use MIDI controllers to key my score in.)</p>
<p>But anyway, my point is that porting FL Studio to the Mac would be beneficial for the company as well as Mac users. Mac is increasingly seen as the superior system when it comes to working with digital audio. Whether that&#8217;s true or not is open for debate, but Image-Line&#8217;s primary objective is to make money (call me a cynic.) With the reputation Apple has in the industry, more and more musicians are switching from Windows, so surely a port would increase the amount of amateurs and professionals using FL? (imagine FL plugging into Logic/Pro Tools) Within those professionals, there would undoubtedly be some revered artists, and that would be an advertising campaign in itself&#8230; </p>
<p>/rant</p>
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		<title>By: spanning</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-218065</link>
		<dc:creator>spanning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should do a complete rewrite in c++. Its faster and cross platform, and the code doesnt look like shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should do a complete rewrite in c++. Its faster and cross platform, and the code doesnt look like shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-205527</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow "Me Myself &#38; I", really intelligent post.  What exactly is an Apple crab?  You know a lot of people who use PC DAW's then?  They must find it hard to record music considering the distraction posed by those "million" games to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8220;Me Myself &amp; I&#8221;, really intelligent post.  What exactly is an Apple crab?  You know a lot of people who use PC DAW&#8217;s then?  They must find it hard to record music considering the distraction posed by those &#8220;million&#8221; games to choose from.</p>
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		<title>By: TeT</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-114992</link>
		<dc:creator>TeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FL Studio is the don &#38; a lot of ppl see it as a toy completely missing its potential. 

as a lot of studios (or at least the ones i`ve been in) use macs i rekon porting FLS to a mac platform would widen its user base to the more professional client changing ppls attitude to it.

plus i`m about to buy a laptop and i`d probably get a macbook pro if it ran FLS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FL Studio is the don &amp; a lot of ppl see it as a toy completely missing its potential. </p>
<p>as a lot of studios (or at least the ones i`ve been in) use macs i rekon porting FLS to a mac platform would widen its user base to the more professional client changing ppls attitude to it.</p>
<p>plus i`m about to buy a laptop and i`d probably get a macbook pro if it ran FLS.</p>
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		<title>By: Me myself &#38; I</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/24/image-line-and-the-mac-not-quite-mac-zealots/#comment-37224</link>
		<dc:creator>Me myself &#38; I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is ok they do not port FLS to Macs because in my opinion it is a tool for everybody and nearly everybody I know uses a PC and Win and hardly noone I know uses a mac.

And theo... I do not think that Imageline is interested in doing some serious studio stuff btw. the most studios I know use PC DAWs - but a tool to play with and learning composing by playing - and as U know there are one million games for pc while one or maximal two games for your fucking expensive and softwareunfriendly (3rd party producers) Apple crab

Word to your mother</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is ok they do not port FLS to Macs because in my opinion it is a tool for everybody and nearly everybody I know uses a PC and Win and hardly noone I know uses a mac.</p>
<p>And theo&#8230; I do not think that Imageline is interested in doing some serious studio stuff btw. the most studios I know use PC DAWs - but a tool to play with and learning composing by playing - and as U know there are one million games for pc while one or maximal two games for your fucking expensive and softwareunfriendly (3rd party producers) Apple crab</p>
<p>Word to your mother</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been using FLStudio since before the name change, and I agree with Theron, it's the only program I use on my PC anymore and would dearly love a version for mac -- I think it's fairly stupid on Image Line's part not to take the time to make a port for Mac, especially if they ever want to break out of the "niche" market and into the wider mainstream.  I work at a world class recording studio in Los Angeles and I can honestly say that the entire studio runs on Macs, and 99% of the clients bring in files/external hard-drives/laptops that are formatted Mac or Apple hardware.  They are seriously shooting themselves in the foot with their arrogance and laziness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using FLStudio since before the name change, and I agree with Theron, it&#8217;s the only program I use on my PC anymore and would dearly love a version for mac &#8212; I think it&#8217;s fairly stupid on Image Line&#8217;s part not to take the time to make a port for Mac, especially if they ever want to break out of the &#8220;niche&#8221; market and into the wider mainstream.  I work at a world class recording studio in Los Angeles and I can honestly say that the entire studio runs on Macs, and 99% of the clients bring in files/external hard-drives/laptops that are formatted Mac or Apple hardware.  They are seriously shooting themselves in the foot with their arrogance and laziness.</p>
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		<title>By: kokorozashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kokorozashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get me started on C# in general. The important thing here is that FL Studio isn't written in C# and C# is not a first-class citizen on the Mac, so it's right out. Among languages appropriate for DAW development, the only first-class citizens on the Mac right now are C++ and Objective C. Neither help FL Studio.
 
Borland did in fact port Turbo Pascal to the Mac way way back in the day. It didn't last very long. There used to be a half-dozen Pascals on the Mac, but today there are no Pascals other than GNU Pascal as mentioned and linked above, and it's not exactly what I would call cushy from the perspective of a commerical developer accustomed to an IDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me started on C# in general. The important thing here is that FL Studio isn&#8217;t written in C# and C# is not a first-class citizen on the Mac, so it&#8217;s right out. Among languages appropriate for DAW development, the only first-class citizens on the Mac right now are C++ and Objective C. Neither help FL Studio.</p>
<p>Borland did in fact port Turbo Pascal to the Mac way way back in the day. It didn&#8217;t last very long. There used to be a half-dozen Pascals on the Mac, but today there are no Pascals other than GNU Pascal as mentioned and linked above, and it&#8217;s not exactly what I would call cushy from the perspective of a commerical developer accustomed to an IDE.</p>
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		<title>By: proem</title>
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		<dc:creator>proem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love me some FLStudio
been using it for every record since version 3

though i do have about a million complaints about it
there are some features that i dont think i could live without
like the formula controller [whose syntax will work in the input mapping as well]

i could never get reason to play nice [read without crashing instantly when opening] so i never bothered with it. 

live... awesome since day one.
FL rewired into live... the ultimate army knife for writersblock in the studio. 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love me some FLStudio<br />
been using it for every record since version 3</p>
<p>though i do have about a million complaints about it<br />
there are some features that i dont think i could live without<br />
like the formula controller [whose syntax will work in the input mapping as well]</p>
<p>i could never get reason to play nice [read without crashing instantly when opening] so i never bothered with it. </p>
<p>live&#8230; awesome since day one.<br />
FL rewired into live&#8230; the ultimate army knife for writersblock in the studio. </p>
<p>:)</p>
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