Comments on: Microsoft Not Turning Back on PlaysForSure with Zune Player http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:18:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kopiosuojatun musiikin loppu alkanut - Toimii — Ei toimi http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-151060 Kopiosuojatun musiikin loppu alkanut - Toimii — Ei toimi Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:38:44 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-151060 [...] Väitän, että ihmisten enemmistö pitää musiikkipiratismia varastamisena, eikä hyväksy sitä. Heillä on tarve kuunnella musiikkia rehellisesti, mutta tähän astiset digitaaliset levykaupat eivät ole tarjonneet kunnon ratkaisua tähän tarpeeseen. Investointi kopiosuojattuun musiikkiin on kuluttajalle riski, koska musiikki ei lähestulkoon varmasti toimi kunnolla viiden tai kymmenen vuoden päästä myytävissä laitteissa. Tai edes saman valmistajan uusissa laitteissa! Thepiratebay.org ja isohunt.com nyt vain ovat olleet paljon helpompia ja käyttökelpoisempia tapoja saada uusi musiikki hyvälaatuisena. Niilläkin on hintansa: lataus on varastamista, ja varastamisesta voi olla seurauksia. Riski on kuitenkin ollut monelle ottamisen arvoinen, koska varastettu musiikki toimii kaikissa soittimissa ja sen laatu on erittäin hyvä. Toisin sanoen piraattimarkkinoiden “liiketoimintamalli” on ollut kuluttajille laillisia liiketoimintamalleja houkuttelevampi. [...] [...] Väitän, että ihmisten enemmistö pitää musiikkipiratismia varastamisena, eikä hyväksy sitä. Heillä on tarve kuunnella musiikkia rehellisesti, mutta tähän astiset digitaaliset levykaupat eivät ole tarjonneet kunnon ratkaisua tähän tarpeeseen. Investointi kopiosuojattuun musiikkiin on kuluttajalle riski, koska musiikki ei lähestulkoon varmasti toimi kunnolla viiden tai kymmenen vuoden päästä myytävissä laitteissa. Tai edes saman valmistajan uusissa laitteissa! Thepiratebay.org ja isohunt.com nyt vain ovat olleet paljon helpompia ja käyttökelpoisempia tapoja saada uusi musiikki hyvälaatuisena. Niilläkin on hintansa: lataus on varastamista, ja varastamisesta voi olla seurauksia. Riski on kuitenkin ollut monelle ottamisen arvoinen, koska varastettu musiikki toimii kaikissa soittimissa ja sen laatu on erittäin hyvä. Toisin sanoen piraattimarkkinoiden “liiketoimintamalli” on ollut kuluttajille laillisia liiketoimintamalleja houkuttelevampi. [...]

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Universal, Microsoft Screw Over Artists, Set Absurd and Dangerous Precedent with Zune http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-47620 Create Digital Music » Universal, Microsoft Screw Over Artists, Set Absurd and Dangerous Precedent with Zune Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:48:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-47620 [...] Microsoft Not Turning Back on PlaysForSure with Zune Player [...] [...] Microsoft Not Turning Back on PlaysForSure with Zune Player [...]

]]> By: DaveMac-MS http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21661 DaveMac-MS Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:11:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21661 To address the question posed by "The Pond" when he said: "A player, it seems can play all plays-for-sure stuff, but not be plays for sure certified. Makes it sound like plays-for-sure limits the capabilities of a device. Or…why else would they not just PFS certify it?" There are over 300 requirements in the PlaysForSure program for portable devices, the playback of certain content types is only but a fraction of those. Also, PlaysForSure certification is a choice made by the vendor - Creative, iriver, Samsung, etc... elect to seek PFS certification for business and technical reasons. The Zune folks have elected to not seek PlaysForSure certification - but that says nothing about the technologies they plan to implement nor is it a reflection on the requirements of the program. A device could be fully compliant with all 300+ requirements and elect not to seek certification if so desired. Cheers, Dave. To address the question posed by “The Pond” when he said:

“A player, it seems can play all plays-for-sure stuff, but not be plays for sure certified. Makes it sound like plays-for-sure limits the capabilities of a device. Or…why else would they not just PFS certify it?”

There are over 300 requirements in the PlaysForSure program for portable devices, the playback of certain content types is only but a fraction of those. Also, PlaysForSure certification is a choice made by the vendor - Creative, iriver, Samsung, etc… elect to seek PFS certification for business and technical reasons.

The Zune folks have elected to not seek PlaysForSure certification - but that says nothing about the technologies they plan to implement nor is it a reflection on the requirements of the program. A device could be fully compliant with all 300+ requirements and elect not to seek certification if so desired.

Cheers, Dave.

]]> By: Kevin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21442 Kevin Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:13:42 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21442 No particular reason. I have both WMP and WinAmp installed on my systems. But WMP just works better most of the time for audio and it also does video. So that's what I've gravitated towards. Cheers, Kevin No particular reason. I have both WMP and WinAmp installed on my systems. But WMP just works better most of the time for audio and it also does video. So that’s what I’ve gravitated towards.

Cheers,
Kevin

]]> By: The Pond » Stop snorting Zune http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21418 The Pond » Stop snorting Zune Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:29:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21418 [...] I also adore the explaination of what plays-for-sure is in this article. A player, it seems can play all plays-for-sure stuff, but not be plays for sure certified. Makes it sound like plays-for-sure limits the capabilities of a device. Or…why else would they not just PFS certify it? Very confusing. MS better clean up their act in terms of talking about this in short order. iPod+iTunes. Doesn’t get much clearer than that. I can only imagine the diagram that will accompany Zune. My guess is, it will be a huge bald guy, a tiny human, and a inexplicably large rabbit miming the instructions. Like Ikea instructions, but far creepier. [...] [...] I also adore the explaination of what plays-for-sure is in this article. A player, it seems can play all plays-for-sure stuff, but not be plays for sure certified. Makes it sound like plays-for-sure limits the capabilities of a device. Or…why else would they not just PFS certify it? Very confusing. MS better clean up their act in terms of talking about this in short order. iPod+iTunes. Doesn’t get much clearer than that. I can only imagine the diagram that will accompany Zune. My guess is, it will be a huge bald guy, a tiny human, and a inexplicably large rabbit miming the instructions. Like Ikea instructions, but far creepier. [...]

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21338 Peter Kirn Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:50:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21338 Whoops! Left out the Coming Zune link. And anyway, yes, I think the anti-Microsoft rhetoric sometimes distracts from the actual merits of the products. These are all big companies, made up of individuals, some of them quite talented. Oh, except I still prefer Winamp to Windows Media Player. (Why do you prefer WMP, Kevin? Admittedly, I haven't played much with WMP11, only v10.) Whoops! Left out the Coming Zune link.

And anyway, yes, I think the anti-Microsoft rhetoric sometimes distracts from the actual merits of the products. These are all big companies, made up of individuals, some of them quite talented.

Oh, except I still prefer Winamp to Windows Media Player. (Why do you prefer WMP, Kevin? Admittedly, I haven’t played much with WMP11, only v10.)

]]> By: Kevin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21337 Kevin Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:43:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21337 What's the link to the Zune teaser pictured in the article? I'm not a "Windows Media loyalist" but in all fairness, WM runs video much faster, with higher resolution and fewer crashes than Google Video player or QuickTime. For audio, WM is better than both RealMedia player and WinAmp. On my PC. When it can find the damn codecs. YMMV. Cheers, Kevin What’s the link to the Zune teaser pictured in the article?

I’m not a “Windows Media loyalist” but in all fairness, WM runs video much faster, with higher resolution and fewer crashes than Google Video player or QuickTime. For audio, WM is better than both RealMedia player and WinAmp. On my PC. When it can find the damn codecs. YMMV.

Cheers,
Kevin

]]> By: Matt http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21334 Matt Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:32:29 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21334 I dig the new windows media player and IE7 works great too. I think they're headed in the right direction, finally. It's been a few since they had the mass of humans talking... I dig the new windows media player and IE7 works great too. I think they’re headed in the right direction, finally. It’s been a few since they had the mass of humans talking…

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21328 Peter Kirn Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:55:42 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21328 See also anythingbutipod.com I don't feel particularly loyal to any electronics company, other than whatever my latest toy is. ;) See also anythingbutipod.com

I don’t feel particularly loyal to any electronics company, other than whatever my latest toy is. ;)

]]> By: Theron http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21326 Theron Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:44:20 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/07/31/microsoft-not-turning-back-on-playsforsure-with-zune-player/#comment-21326 There are Windows Media loyalists? Why would anyone be pro-Windows Media? There are Windows Media loyalists? Why would anyone be pro-Windows Media?

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