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	<title>Comments on: MTP, Portable Player Standard? Microsoft&#8217;s McLauchlan Sets Us Straight</title>
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		<title>By: Kiernan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, my youtube channel is 
http://www.youtube.com/user/rofthorax 

not what I listed above.. 

Also my website 

http://www.chann3lz.com/ is an example of music exploration in its simplest form.</description>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/rofthorax" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/rofthorax</a> </p>
<p>not what I listed above.. </p>
<p>Also my website </p>
<p><a href="http://www.chann3lz.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chann3lz.com/</a> is an example of music exploration in its simplest form.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiernan Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiernan Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I had started a sentence on the end of that message, it was from earlier in the message and just got pushed down as I was writing, ignore it.</description>
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		<title>By: Kiernan Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiernan Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTP is retarded, it is true what he says.. But I determined this from intuition, I didn&#039;t need him to tell me. 

Anytime you have a protocol for anything that doesn&#039;t really need a protocol, it&#039;s for protection not for communication. 

I use Korean firmware on my Samsung T9 and T10 so that I can use my player as a USB driver in linux.. It is just easier. The video format on my player is a masked AVI format utilizing the Xvid format, which is in open source. But Samsung calls it SVI. There is a open source program in java that utilizes mencoder to convert any video format to SVI so that files can be copied to the player. esn&#039;t really work, I had a rhapsody subscription on several players, and the playforsure DRM failed to maintain the subscriptions. All DRM, games included, just limits the way people can use their devices and doesn&#039;t prevent piracy.. 

The problem here is not the players or the technology, it fundamentally made to copy data easily. The problem is with the mindset of the artists and the people trying to control the medium.

The Internet is the new competition, it provides other sources of entertainment, and as such the music and movie industry can&#039;t assume that they are losing money to piracy as there is so many other things, like video games, that can steal their audience. So if it is not piracy, what is it?

It is controlling the rights of the consumer. It&#039;s preventing competition from used content.. It&#039;s the new capability of the content creator to dictate how and what anyone can do with their content, in the interest of making more money and collecting marketing data to find other ways to tie in their products, so that you are bothered 24/7 by purchasing decisions you make.. Don&#039;t let anyone tell you otherwise because DRM enforces policy, it doesn&#039;t permit the content creator to trust the listener to follow the policy. 

But with or without drm, I doubt the music and movie industry is going to make any money. Children will copy music regardless, my generation did with Cassette tapes. I do believe that internet services should throttle data coming from peer2peer services, but I don&#039;t want DRM controlling my freedom to use content I&#039;ve purchased. If they are determined to use DRM, I can copy the music or just boycott music from commercial companies, as I have with Microsoft products (I use Ubuntu now, I no longer buy Microsoft, I will not buy Vista regardless, I play my videogames in wine or Windows XP, see my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/kiernan ). 

I discuss my experiences with software managed licesing which is what DRM is, and it&#039;s been here even before it was used with media.. Remember license servers for software? Or the copy protection for games.. That&#039;s DRM too.. The only solution for us as consumers is to boycott media that is intent on controlling how we use it.. 

A recent run in I had was this.. I was uploading a video demonstrating a Linux program called TerminatorX that turns your computer into a DJ turntable for scratching with the mouse. I was going to use &quot;Alan Toussaint&#039;s &quot;Touch of Love&quot; in the demo because I had recognized it from an &quot;Axe&quot; toiletry commercial.. I uploaded my screencast to youtube and youtube gave me some kind of message like &quot;WDM has not given rights to use this content, audio has been disabled&quot;. So I had to do the whole demo over again, but I used a anti-media poster-child song, Tom Cruise Crazy from Jonathan Coulton, because I knew Jonathan put his work into Creative Commons.. 

If it wasn&#039;t for DRM, we wouldn&#039;t have Creative Commons.. I could say the same about GNU as inspiration for Creative Commons. Richard Stallman was driven to copyleft software because in the old days computers were not personal, and software was provided for free to permit people to use computers which sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Since computers became personal, it made it advantageous to make the software commercial because the computers had become cheap and nobody would hire programmers to make software for their computers, also floppy disks and cassette tapes permitted people to distribute software easily.. Isn&#039;t that interesting.. Anyhow, there has always been this fight between the media and technology.. But I think the real fight is that the Internet is the new kid and the Media industry is the older son who is not getting the love it once had.. So it is in a since jealous of people&#039;s freedom of access to content and software. Microsoft alike.. Microsoft would love to turn the open architecture PC into a closed entity so that they could close off access to its competition from open source.. Isn&#039;t it ironic that opening a Vista machine could void your warranty, or that there was this great effort to add encryption to media content on the motherboard? That&#039;s because Vista was not needed, it was made to give content providers more control over what people can do with their computers, and Microsoft more control over what people could do with their computers, such as install alternative operating systems. 

It has nothing to do with Piracy.. It has everything to do with making more money.. And I can just see how it is just going to shoot both the media industry and Microsoft in the back. To warn them of this, I&#039;m advising others to consider boycotting media and software, even companies, that make steps toward controlling the consumer. As we can see what a lack of trust has done to our economy, the next thing that will happen is our economy will become mechanized, and people will be guilty until proven innocent. All in the interest of making money. 

What has caused this whole mess is a lack of morals, on both ends. All we can do is reward those for their works and punish those for their manipulation. 

The best solution for the music industry is to think up new methods of attracting buyers, to innovate. Same for the movie industry.. To find a value add, than to just assume that people are going to pay for DRM&#039;d content. Because what they are really fighting is not piracy, but for attention.. And DRM is just making them look more like assholes than prospects.

As one who has many ideas, and nobody to invest in them, it&#039;s obvious to me that the Movie and Music industry has not innovated enough, that they are managed by idiots who are using methods of the past for media management to apply to this problem.. If they were to consult with people who have ideas, they might find solutions that would benefit them more greatly than trying to protect content that is instantly perceivable and easy to copy. Example given: online virtual worlds, streaming content, interactive media, msuic databases with the capacity to permit people to explore and discover, even videotape and record content, so that people can share with others the content and show them where to go. 
 
There are so many solutions here, and it may be that the future of the media industry is with high bandwidth telecommunications and explorable content.

By explorable content I mean things like GPS enabled cellphone that permits one to walk through a virtual music festival with sound rendered to their in relation to their location and possibly the obstructions in their surrounding with a form of aural radiosity. I don&#039;t know, there is a lot of potential for new technologies.. 

The probelm is that business is fundamentally conservative because any change is costly, but if DRM proves to be costly and P2P is uncontrollable, the media industry will have to find another method of making money.. If they have the money to spend, I suggest talking with some people who have better ideas, and take the risk to innovate.. They might reap a reward greater than DRM ever would. 
 


 

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTP is retarded, it is true what he says.. But I determined this from intuition, I didn&#8217;t need him to tell me. </p>
<p>Anytime you have a protocol for anything that doesn&#8217;t really need a protocol, it&#8217;s for protection not for communication. </p>
<p>I use Korean firmware on my Samsung T9 and T10 so that I can use my player as a USB driver in linux.. It is just easier. The video format on my player is a masked AVI format utilizing the Xvid format, which is in open source. But Samsung calls it SVI. There is a open source program in java that utilizes mencoder to convert any video format to SVI so that files can be copied to the player. esn&#8217;t really work, I had a rhapsody subscription on several players, and the playforsure DRM failed to maintain the subscriptions. All DRM, games included, just limits the way people can use their devices and doesn&#8217;t prevent piracy.. </p>
<p>The problem here is not the players or the technology, it fundamentally made to copy data easily. The problem is with the mindset of the artists and the people trying to control the medium.</p>
<p>The Internet is the new competition, it provides other sources of entertainment, and as such the music and movie industry can&#8217;t assume that they are losing money to piracy as there is so many other things, like video games, that can steal their audience. So if it is not piracy, what is it?</p>
<p>It is controlling the rights of the consumer. It&#8217;s preventing competition from used content.. It&#8217;s the new capability of the content creator to dictate how and what anyone can do with their content, in the interest of making more money and collecting marketing data to find other ways to tie in their products, so that you are bothered 24/7 by purchasing decisions you make.. Don&#8217;t let anyone tell you otherwise because DRM enforces policy, it doesn&#8217;t permit the content creator to trust the listener to follow the policy. </p>
<p>But with or without drm, I doubt the music and movie industry is going to make any money. Children will copy music regardless, my generation did with Cassette tapes. I do believe that internet services should throttle data coming from peer2peer services, but I don&#8217;t want DRM controlling my freedom to use content I&#8217;ve purchased. If they are determined to use DRM, I can copy the music or just boycott music from commercial companies, as I have with Microsoft products (I use Ubuntu now, I no longer buy Microsoft, I will not buy Vista regardless, I play my videogames in wine or Windows XP, see my youtube channel <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/kiernan" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/kiernan</a> ). </p>
<p>I discuss my experiences with software managed licesing which is what DRM is, and it&#8217;s been here even before it was used with media.. Remember license servers for software? Or the copy protection for games.. That&#8217;s DRM too.. The only solution for us as consumers is to boycott media that is intent on controlling how we use it.. </p>
<p>A recent run in I had was this.. I was uploading a video demonstrating a Linux program called TerminatorX that turns your computer into a DJ turntable for scratching with the mouse. I was going to use &#8220;Alan Toussaint&#8217;s &#8220;Touch of Love&#8221; in the demo because I had recognized it from an &#8220;Axe&#8221; toiletry commercial.. I uploaded my screencast to youtube and youtube gave me some kind of message like &#8220;WDM has not given rights to use this content, audio has been disabled&#8221;. So I had to do the whole demo over again, but I used a anti-media poster-child song, Tom Cruise Crazy from Jonathan Coulton, because I knew Jonathan put his work into Creative Commons.. </p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for DRM, we wouldn&#8217;t have Creative Commons.. I could say the same about GNU as inspiration for Creative Commons. Richard Stallman was driven to copyleft software because in the old days computers were not personal, and software was provided for free to permit people to use computers which sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Since computers became personal, it made it advantageous to make the software commercial because the computers had become cheap and nobody would hire programmers to make software for their computers, also floppy disks and cassette tapes permitted people to distribute software easily.. Isn&#8217;t that interesting.. Anyhow, there has always been this fight between the media and technology.. But I think the real fight is that the Internet is the new kid and the Media industry is the older son who is not getting the love it once had.. So it is in a since jealous of people&#8217;s freedom of access to content and software. Microsoft alike.. Microsoft would love to turn the open architecture PC into a closed entity so that they could close off access to its competition from open source.. Isn&#8217;t it ironic that opening a Vista machine could void your warranty, or that there was this great effort to add encryption to media content on the motherboard? That&#8217;s because Vista was not needed, it was made to give content providers more control over what people can do with their computers, and Microsoft more control over what people could do with their computers, such as install alternative operating systems. </p>
<p>It has nothing to do with Piracy.. It has everything to do with making more money.. And I can just see how it is just going to shoot both the media industry and Microsoft in the back. To warn them of this, I&#8217;m advising others to consider boycotting media and software, even companies, that make steps toward controlling the consumer. As we can see what a lack of trust has done to our economy, the next thing that will happen is our economy will become mechanized, and people will be guilty until proven innocent. All in the interest of making money. </p>
<p>What has caused this whole mess is a lack of morals, on both ends. All we can do is reward those for their works and punish those for their manipulation. </p>
<p>The best solution for the music industry is to think up new methods of attracting buyers, to innovate. Same for the movie industry.. To find a value add, than to just assume that people are going to pay for DRM&#8217;d content. Because what they are really fighting is not piracy, but for attention.. And DRM is just making them look more like assholes than prospects.</p>
<p>As one who has many ideas, and nobody to invest in them, it&#8217;s obvious to me that the Movie and Music industry has not innovated enough, that they are managed by idiots who are using methods of the past for media management to apply to this problem.. If they were to consult with people who have ideas, they might find solutions that would benefit them more greatly than trying to protect content that is instantly perceivable and easy to copy. Example given: online virtual worlds, streaming content, interactive media, msuic databases with the capacity to permit people to explore and discover, even videotape and record content, so that people can share with others the content and show them where to go. </p>
<p>There are so many solutions here, and it may be that the future of the media industry is with high bandwidth telecommunications and explorable content.</p>
<p>By explorable content I mean things like GPS enabled cellphone that permits one to walk through a virtual music festival with sound rendered to their in relation to their location and possibly the obstructions in their surrounding with a form of aural radiosity. I don&#8217;t know, there is a lot of potential for new technologies.. </p>
<p>The probelm is that business is fundamentally conservative because any change is costly, but if DRM proves to be costly and P2P is uncontrollable, the media industry will have to find another method of making money.. If they have the money to spend, I suggest talking with some people who have better ideas, and take the risk to innovate.. They might reap a reward greater than DRM ever would. </p>
<p>It is my belief that Microsoft</p>
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		<title>By: deeqo</title>
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		<dc:creator>deeqo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmmmmm how do i get songs on a mtp!!</description>
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		<title>By: media sharing vista problems zune windows media player</title>
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		<dc:creator>media sharing vista problems zune windows media player</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Motion &#187; Zune 2.0 Does Video Out, Plenty Video Formats: Mobile VJing Continues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Motion &#187; Zune 2.0 Does Video Out, Plenty Video Formats: Mobile VJing Continues</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] MTP, Portable Player Standard? Microsoftâ€™s McLauchlan Sets Us Straight [Create Digital Music] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Universal, Microsoft Screw Over Artists, Set Absurd and Dangerous Precedent with Zune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Universal, Microsoft Screw Over Artists, Set Absurd and Dangerous Precedent with Zune</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] MTP, Portable Player Standard? MicrosoftÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s McLauchlan Sets Us Straight [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NAVEEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAVEEN</dc:creator>
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		<description>Dave, how would you sell non DRMed content and make money? For eg, You might sell 10 copies whereas 100 copies might be inc circulation.</description>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just updated firmware on my MP3 player (Samsung YH-J70) which is a HDD type player.  The firmware upgrade included MTP.

Now however, as a result of the MTP software/firmware I can not transfer files (word/excel/text) to use my player as a data storage device. Even though the player supports text files for viewing.

I have contacted the manufacturers for clarification and resolution.

I wonder if others have experienced the same problems as a result of manfacturers adopting this protocol on multi-use devices...??</description>
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<p>Now however, as a result of the MTP software/firmware I can not transfer files (word/excel/text) to use my player as a data storage device. Even though the player supports text files for viewing.</p>
<p>I have contacted the manufacturers for clarification and resolution.</p>
<p>I wonder if others have experienced the same problems as a result of manfacturers adopting this protocol on multi-use devices&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Microsoft Zune Official: Wireless Sharing, Pre-Loaded Indie Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Microsoft Zune Official: Wireless Sharing, Pre-Loaded Indie Music</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft Not Turning Back on PlaysForSure with Zune Player MTP, Portable Player Standard? MicrosoftÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s McLauchlan Sets Us Straight [...]</description>
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