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	<title>Comments on: Bargain-priced DSP Audio Processing: Build a Pre-Owned Creamware Rig</title>
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		<title>By: Cognitive Conga &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Earglasses*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cognitive Conga &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Earglasses*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] prices (for instance, the Korg Pandora). I don&#8217;t know if they use Sharcs, but I do know that many price-breakthrough audio processors with pluggable algorithms that I&#8217;ve seen hit the market [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] prices (for instance, the Korg Pandora). I don&#8217;t know if they use Sharcs, but I do know that many price-breakthrough audio processors with pluggable algorithms that I&#8217;ve seen hit the market [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; CreamWare Audio Lives To See Another Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; CreamWare Audio Lives To See Another Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] German manufacturer CreamWare - best known for their Scope DSP cards and ASB tabletop synthesizers - was declared insolvent on December 18, 2006. Those of you who&#8217;ve been following the company for a few years will recall that they hit a similar rough patch in 2004, but re-emerged to release their acclaimed lineup of ASB hardware synthesizers, along with updates to their Scope DSP software. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] German manufacturer CreamWare &#8211; best known for their Scope DSP cards and ASB tabletop synthesizers &#8211; was declared insolvent on December 18, 2006. Those of you who&#8217;ve been following the company for a few years will recall that they hit a similar rough patch in 2004, but re-emerged to release their acclaimed lineup of ASB hardware synthesizers, along with updates to their Scope DSP software. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Cowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Cowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know where I can get 2 Transtech ASP-P15 quad SHARC DSP PCI boards+a 2 gig memory board, all for $75...8 SHARC&#039;s!...2 gigabytes!...$75!

Sounds good to me, even tho&#039; I can&#039;t get any software.  Used, of course, but the extra memory alone seems to be a good deal.  I suppose I&#039;m not gonna be really technologicly advanced, but I can learn on this.

What do you think, guys?

Donald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where I can get 2 Transtech ASP-P15 quad SHARC DSP PCI boards+a 2 gig memory board, all for $75&#8230;8 SHARC&#8217;s!&#8230;2 gigabytes!&#8230;$75!</p>
<p>Sounds good to me, even tho&#8217; I can&#8217;t get any software.  Used, of course, but the extra memory alone seems to be a good deal.  I suppose I&#8217;m not gonna be really technologicly advanced, but I can learn on this.</p>
<p>What do you think, guys?</p>
<p>Donald</p>
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		<title>By: LÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢Ãƒâ€¦Ã¢â‚¬â„¢il de la MÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©diathÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¨que &#187; Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers</title>
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		<dc:creator>LÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢Ãƒâ€¦Ã¢â‚¬â„¢il de la MÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©diathÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¨que &#187; Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these &#8212; after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I&#8217;d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There&#8217;s no &#8220;official&#8221; confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these &#8212; after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I&#8217;d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There&#8217;s no &#8220;official&#8221; confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these &#8212; after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I&#8217;d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There&#8217;s no &#8220;official&#8221; confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these &#8212; after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I&#8217;d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There&#8217;s no &#8220;official&#8221; confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Valis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Valis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually 45(minus one)

The Scope Pro (Powerpulsar) cards have 15 dsps, but one dsp is used to handle the Scope OS.  Enough people complained about &#039;only having 14 dsps&#039; available in Scope that Creamware (wisely? confusingly?) changed the specs for the cards.  I wonder though if it would really use one dsp PER CARD, or just a single dsp total (yielding 44 usable).  I only gave 2 cards/10 dsps so all I can do is sigh &amp; wonder.  :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually 45(minus one)</p>
<p>The Scope Pro (Powerpulsar) cards have 15 dsps, but one dsp is used to handle the Scope OS.  Enough people complained about &#8216;only having 14 dsps&#8217; available in Scope that Creamware (wisely? confusingly?) changed the specs for the cards.  I wonder though if it would really use one dsp PER CARD, or just a single dsp total (yielding 44 usable).  I only gave 2 cards/10 dsps so all I can do is sigh &amp; wonder.  :-p</p>
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		<title>By: dave clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so would 3 scope pros do the trick then

42 dsp`s`

;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so would 3 scope pros do the trick then</p>
<p>42 dsp`s`</p>
<p>;0)</p>
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		<title>By: Valis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, the plugins that run on Creamware cards are specific to the Creamware platform and so you can&#039;t really make a 1:1 comparison.  If you&#039;d like to know more there has been extensive discussion on KVR (biased towards native/vst) and Planetz.com/forums/ (where Creamware users seem confidant in their platform).  PlanetZ users will know the exact SHARC chip used, and what it&#039;s &#039;performance&#039; would be in terms of number crunching, as well as being able to provide more in-depth discussion on why this isn&#039;t necessarily the best way to rate the power of a given algorithm or platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, the plugins that run on Creamware cards are specific to the Creamware platform and so you can&#8217;t really make a 1:1 comparison.  If you&#8217;d like to know more there has been extensive discussion on KVR (biased towards native/vst) and Planetz.com/forums/ (where Creamware users seem confidant in their platform).  PlanetZ users will know the exact SHARC chip used, and what it&#8217;s &#8216;performance&#8217; would be in terms of number crunching, as well as being able to provide more in-depth discussion on why this isn&#8217;t necessarily the best way to rate the power of a given algorithm or platform.</p>
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		<title>By: dave clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by any chance would you be so kind valis and measure the performance of these cards vs a cpu plugin

run x amount on the dsps and then a similar amount on a cpu

would be good to sum up their power then

thanks

dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by any chance would you be so kind valis and measure the performance of these cards vs a cpu plugin</p>
<p>run x amount on the dsps and then a similar amount on a cpu</p>
<p>would be good to sum up their power then</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>dave</p>
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