Comments on: Bargain-priced DSP Audio Processing: Build a Pre-Owned Creamware Rig http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:02:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Cognitive Conga » Blog Archive » Earglasses* http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-497365 Cognitive Conga » Blog Archive » Earglasses* Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:34:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-497365 [...] prices (for instance, the Korg Pandora). I don’t know if they use Sharcs, but I do know that many price-breakthrough audio processors with pluggable algorithms that I’ve seen hit the market [...] [...] prices (for instance, the Korg Pandora). I don’t know if they use Sharcs, but I do know that many price-breakthrough audio processors with pluggable algorithms that I’ve seen hit the market [...]

]]> By: Create Digital Music » CreamWare Audio Lives To See Another Day http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-314823 Create Digital Music » CreamWare Audio Lives To See Another Day Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:59 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-314823 [...] German manufacturer CreamWare - best known for their Scope DSP cards and ASB tabletop synthesizers - was declared insolvent on December 18, 2006. Those of you who’ve been following the company for a few years will recall that they hit a similar rough patch in 2004, but re-emerged to release their acclaimed lineup of ASB hardware synthesizers, along with updates to their Scope DSP software. [...] [...] German manufacturer CreamWare - best known for their Scope DSP cards and ASB tabletop synthesizers - was declared insolvent on December 18, 2006. Those of you who’ve been following the company for a few years will recall that they hit a similar rough patch in 2004, but re-emerged to release their acclaimed lineup of ASB hardware synthesizers, along with updates to their Scope DSP software. [...]

]]> By: Donald Cowen http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-107103 Donald Cowen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:15:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-107103 I know where I can get 2 Transtech ASP-P15 quad SHARC DSP PCI boards+a 2 gig memory board, all for $75...8 SHARC's!...2 gigabytes!...$75! Sounds good to me, even tho' I can't get any software. Used, of course, but the extra memory alone seems to be a good deal. I suppose I'm not gonna be really technologicly advanced, but I can learn on this. What do you think, guys? Donald I know where I can get 2 Transtech ASP-P15 quad SHARC DSP PCI boards+a 2 gig memory board, all for $75…8 SHARC’s!…2 gigabytes!…$75!

Sounds good to me, even tho’ I can’t get any software. Used, of course, but the extra memory alone seems to be a good deal. I suppose I’m not gonna be really technologicly advanced, but I can learn on this.

What do you think, guys?

Donald

]]> By: L’Œil de la Médiathèque » Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-33248 L’Œil de la Médiathèque » Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:12:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-33248 [...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these — after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I’d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There’s no “official” confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...] [...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these — after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I’d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There’s no “official” confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-32807 Create Digital Music » Creamware Klangboxes: Knobless virtual analog synthesizers Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:48:20 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-32807 [...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these — after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I’d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There’s no “official” confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...] [...] I think Creamware might be missing the boat with these — after all, the ASB series is wonderful because each box provides a tactile control surface to tweak sounds the moment inspiration strikes. And, quite honestly, second hand Creamware Scope DSP boards are now so inexpensive that I’d prefer to run the PC-based version of these instruments instead. Still, they could be useful for live performance. There’s no “official” confirmation of these products on the Creamware ASB site yet. [...]

]]> By: Valis http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-25188 Valis Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:11:04 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-25188 gave=have =P gave=have

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]]> By: Valis http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-24479 Valis Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:40:17 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-24479 Actually 45(minus one) The Scope Pro (Powerpulsar) cards have 15 dsps, but one dsp is used to handle the Scope OS. Enough people complained about 'only having 14 dsps' available in Scope that Creamware (wisely? confusingly?) changed the specs for the cards. I wonder though if it would really use one dsp PER CARD, or just a single dsp total (yielding 44 usable). I only gave 2 cards/10 dsps so all I can do is sigh & wonder. :-p Actually 45(minus one)

The Scope Pro (Powerpulsar) cards have 15 dsps, but one dsp is used to handle the Scope OS. Enough people complained about ‘only having 14 dsps’ available in Scope that Creamware (wisely? confusingly?) changed the specs for the cards. I wonder though if it would really use one dsp PER CARD, or just a single dsp total (yielding 44 usable). I only gave 2 cards/10 dsps so all I can do is sigh & wonder. :-p

]]> By: dave clark http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23497 dave clark Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:26:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23497 so would 3 scope pros do the trick then 42 dsp`s` ;0) so would 3 scope pros do the trick then

42 dsp`s`

;0)

]]> By: Valis http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23493 Valis Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:18:38 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23493 Dave, the plugins that run on Creamware cards are specific to the Creamware platform and so you can't really make a 1:1 comparison. If you'd like to know more there has been extensive discussion on KVR (biased towards native/vst) and Planetz.com/forums/ (where Creamware users seem confidant in their platform). PlanetZ users will know the exact SHARC chip used, and what it's 'performance' would be in terms of number crunching, as well as being able to provide more in-depth discussion on why this isn't necessarily the best way to rate the power of a given algorithm or platform. Dave, the plugins that run on Creamware cards are specific to the Creamware platform and so you can’t really make a 1:1 comparison. If you’d like to know more there has been extensive discussion on KVR (biased towards native/vst) and Planetz.com/forums/ (where Creamware users seem confidant in their platform). PlanetZ users will know the exact SHARC chip used, and what it’s ‘performance’ would be in terms of number crunching, as well as being able to provide more in-depth discussion on why this isn’t necessarily the best way to rate the power of a given algorithm or platform.

]]> By: dave clark http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23488 dave clark Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:37:30 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/10/bargain-priced-dsp-audio-processing-build-a-pre-owned-creamware-rig/#comment-23488 by any chance would you be so kind valis and measure the performance of these cards vs a cpu plugin run x amount on the dsps and then a similar amount on a cpu would be good to sum up their power then thanks dave by any chance would you be so kind valis and measure the performance of these cards vs a cpu plugin

run x amount on the dsps and then a similar amount on a cpu

would be good to sum up their power then

thanks

dave

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