Comments on: Apple Copies GarageBand Interface for Xcode 3.0 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:47:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-31303 Peter Kirn Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:57:55 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-31303 Okay, fair enough. It is, technically, 2006. :) This probably counts as hyperbole: "Delight in a debugger so groundbreaking, you’ll make mistakes just to see it in action." Anyway, the product itself looks very cool, even if some of us loathe marketing copy. ;) Okay, fair enough. It is, technically, 2006. :)

This probably counts as hyperbole:

“Delight in a debugger so groundbreaking, you’ll make mistakes just to see it in action.”

Anyway, the product itself looks very cool, even if some of us loathe marketing copy. ;)

]]> By: Bob http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-31300 Bob Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:45:35 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-31300 How is "Because it’s 2006.â€Â? hyperbole? :-P How is “Because it’s 2006.â€Â? hyperbole? :-P

]]> By: detroit313 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29229 detroit313 Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:41:17 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29229 I really hope they put some of those new controls in Leopard's AppKit. All the new slick interface elements we see in recent Apple apps are ProKit only, their internal undocumented framework :( I really hope they put some of those new controls in Leopard’s AppKit. All the new slick interface elements we see in recent Apple apps are ProKit only, their internal undocumented framework :(

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29152 Peter Kirn Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:30:43 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29152 Developers can certainly comment upon factual elements of my story and how they feel about a publicly-promoted concept. That doesn't violate NDA. (I added the line asking for developer input after willb set me straight about what an "instrument" is outside of my music-biased world!) I think forbidding developers to talk about developer tools (not proprietary information about an operating system, but the developer tools) is pretty silly, anyway, but that's a separate issue. Developers can certainly comment upon factual elements of my story and how they feel about a publicly-promoted concept. That doesn’t violate NDA. (I added the line asking for developer input after willb set me straight about what an “instrument” is outside of my music-biased world!)

I think forbidding developers to talk about developer tools (not proprietary information about an operating system, but the developer tools) is pretty silly, anyway, but that’s a separate issue.

]]> By: Becker's @ the Mall :) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29118 Becker's @ the Mall :) Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:18:53 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29118 Lyke OMG!! THAT looks sooooo kool!!!!!11 I TOTALLY cant wait to use it!!! ^_^ *giggles* Lyke OMG!! THAT looks sooooo kool!!!!!11 I TOTALLY cant wait to use it!!! ^_^ *giggles*

]]> By: Chilton http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29069 Chilton Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:51:24 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-29069 Developers who are using XRay are probably not going to comment too heavily on what it's like, as doing so directly violates the WWDC NDA. Developers who are using XRay are probably not going to comment too heavily on what it’s like, as doing so directly violates the WWDC NDA.

]]> By: willb http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28997 willb Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:02:30 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28997 Indeed, thanks for the pointer. Indeed, thanks for the pointer.

]]> By: Duncan http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28794 Duncan Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:28:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28794 I don't believe the Xray stuff is building on gdb, it's a performance analysis tool running on top of <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/bmc/date/20060807" rel="nofollow">Apple's port</a> of <a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/dtrace/" rel="nofollow">dtrace</a>. I don’t believe the Xray stuff is building on gdb, it’s a performance analysis tool running on top of Apple’s port of dtrace.

]]> By: willb http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28664 willb Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:56:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/04/apple-copies-garageband-interface-for-xcode-30/#comment-28664 Peter, the "instruments" sentence is clumsy, but programmers (and programming-language researchers) have been talking about "instrumenting" code and "inserting instrumentation" for ages. This just means "adding code to an existing program to observe or modify its behavior." (Think of the instruments someone would use when conducting a physical experiment.) In the context of debugging, instrumentation code might be used track all writes to and reads from a certain memory location or it might track all calls to a particular function. The "instrumentation" code can do anything -- so the "instruments" that the marketing copy speaks of are probably special kinds of instrumentation that provide useful information to Xray for various events of interest. In any case, Xcode 3.0 looks amazing. The timeline debugger view is actually a good idea. (If you can put, for example, different threads in different tracks -- and if Apple has correspondingly extended gdb's dismal thread support -- it will be huge.) Peter, the “instruments” sentence is clumsy, but programmers (and programming-language researchers) have been talking about “instrumenting” code and “inserting instrumentation” for ages. This just means “adding code to an existing program to observe or modify its behavior.” (Think of the instruments someone would use when conducting a physical experiment.)

In the context of debugging, instrumentation code might be used track all writes to and reads from a certain memory location or it might track all calls to a particular function. The “instrumentation” code can do anything — so the “instruments” that the marketing copy speaks of are probably special kinds of instrumentation that provide useful information to Xray for various events of interest.

In any case, Xcode 3.0 looks amazing. The timeline debugger view is actually a good idea. (If you can put, for example, different threads in different tracks — and if Apple has correspondingly extended gdb’s dismal thread support — it will be huge.)

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