Comments on: Tacky Rip-Off of Lemur Touch Interface in Software http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:29:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: MidiMeek http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-424213 MidiMeek Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:01:48 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-424213 midimeek.blogspot.com Fully customizable DIY lemur for under $40 and includes a virtual monome. All you need is a wiimote, infrared light source, and max/msp. Currently working on a version that uses TUIO for multitouch support and a plexiglass overlay with an infrared led array. This would make a true customizable multitouch lemur without the need for a glove. midimeek.blogspot.com

Fully customizable DIY lemur for under $40 and includes a virtual monome. All you need is a wiimote, infrared light source, and max/msp.

Currently working on a version that uses TUIO for multitouch support and a plexiglass overlay with an infrared led array. This would make a true customizable multitouch lemur without the need for a glove.

]]> By: Michael http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-291483 Michael Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:27:46 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-291483 Hey Peter !! before write about somthing, you should test, just test before write. MonoTouchLIve its really awesome tool !! Thakyou Dj Grobe Hey Peter !! before write about somthing, you should test, just test before write.
MonoTouchLIve its really awesome tool !!
Thakyou Dj Grobe

]]> By: ITP Blogs » reprise http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-283672 ITP Blogs » reprise Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:32:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-283672 [...] I had previously discussed the interface and a lot of things I would like the instrument to have. I thought I should mention a few existing products. We can have the reason model in which it recreated the physical interface or the or you can have lemur touch interface: [...] [...] I had previously discussed the interface and a lot of things I would like the instrument to have. I thought I should mention a few existing products. We can have the reason model in which it recreated the physical interface or the or you can have lemur touch interface: [...]

]]> By: happyjourney http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-37149 happyjourney Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:36:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-37149 why don't yall get off the man's back. he's giving away a free program that looks kick a*& to me. yet all i see is people jumping allover how it looks the same as lemur. so what. It's beautiful. I can't wait to get a touch screen and hook this thing up to live and turn out the lights in my shack. it's gonna look like i'm playing with a lite brite! why don’t yall get off the man’s back. he’s giving away a free program that looks kick a*& to me. yet all i see is people jumping allover how it looks the same as lemur. so what. It’s beautiful. I can’t wait to get a touch screen and hook this thing up to live and turn out the lights in my shack. it’s gonna look like i’m playing with a lite brite!

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Mono Touch Live Lemur Clone Now Free http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32674 Create Digital Music » Mono Touch Live Lemur Clone Now Free Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:31:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32674 [...] You can read DJ Grobe’s comments on the original story. Basically, he says he didn’t originally intend to make money off of it and has removed the price. He then goes on to make a very strange argument, that his interface is closer to Tetris than Lemur. That’s just silly; as others have pointed out the button-for-button layout of the Lemur template, down to the color of individual buttons, was translated into his design. You can see for yourself, side by side. But I am happy that he’s making this free. [...] [...] You can read DJ Grobe’s comments on the original story. Basically, he says he didn’t originally intend to make money off of it and has removed the price. He then goes on to make a very strange argument, that his interface is closer to Tetris than Lemur. That’s just silly; as others have pointed out the button-for-button layout of the Lemur template, down to the color of individual buttons, was translated into his design. You can see for yourself, side by side. But I am happy that he’s making this free. [...]

]]> By: cyphunk http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32668 cyphunk Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:14:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32668 "Look at the radius on the rounded rectangles, the translucent fills" lol. okay, this language would work when arguing about trademark ripoffs but imo ui design can not or should not be trademarked. “Look at the radius on the rounded rectangles, the translucent fills”

lol. okay, this language would work when arguing about trademark ripoffs but imo ui design can not or should not be trademarked.

]]> By: DJ-GROBE http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32192 DJ-GROBE Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:08:24 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32192 OH SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH !! :) An typo errors, i write this after long night playing on club iwth ableton + my monotuchlive : ) Best regards. OH SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH !! :)
An typo errors, i write this after long night playing on club iwth ableton + my monotuchlive : )

Best regards.

]]> By: DJ-GROBE http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32190 DJ-GROBE Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:07:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-32190 Hey boys, the intention no its ripoff the design of the greatlemur, on lemur you can create any layout you want. The layout i create its based of things i need for djing with ableton, and that are common to lemur and to djs users need. About the design, on the pictures taked in the lcd, pictures show some thing very indentical but the things are different. The original project born for just smple reason, the only way i can create cheap system with the layout i need its using software + touchscreen.Aditonal to that you have very portable controller, and very durable! The concpet of use touch screen for control things not its new. Lemur show 2 things new, multitouchscreen and lego custom layout system. The original intention no is make money, some guys tellmemonths ago when i show this for first time........wow! well this can be profitable why not sell? and i follow that way, and now see this is a big error, for that reason i turn the project to free, you can see the site now. Anyway i stay thing in the last day if continue with the project just for me or day 20 october make public. I now want recive rowses, but i no want see mor ecomplaints about this...........so its very possible i colse the project like public project..... I are the first after lemur to try create midi controller touchscreen.... practical controller, and se the price to pay for that is very high. If somebody think the design its copy of lemur, that its wrong, you can see detailed picture here: http://www.monotouchlive.com/screenx.jpg My design can be compared more with TETRIS and no with lemur. Anyway any button created with nice look, and showed on touch screen, be compared inmediatly with lemur. Any layout created for ableton can be inmediatly compared with lemur...its simple reason for that, the way to djing with ableton its only one or possible 2, and controlls needed are the same. Like mixers, have sliders and eqs etc etc Or all tcs have common things, or all cd players have common things, or all computers, or allpencils or any uisefull think created by any man. Bets regards DJ-Grobe Hey boys, the intention no its ripoff the design of the greatlemur, on lemur you can create any layout you want. The layout i create its based of things i need for djing with ableton, and that are common to lemur and to djs users need.
About the design, on the pictures taked in the lcd, pictures show some thing very indentical but the things are different.
The original project born for just smple reason, the only way i can create cheap system with the layout i need its using software + touchscreen.Aditonal to that you have very portable controller, and very durable!
The concpet of use touch screen for control things not its new. Lemur show 2 things new, multitouchscreen and lego custom layout system.

The original intention no is make money, some guys tellmemonths ago when i show this for first time……..wow! well this can be profitable why not sell? and i follow that way, and now see this is a big error, for that reason i turn the project to free, you can see the site now.
Anyway i stay thing in the last day if continue with the project just for me or day 20 october make public.
I now want recive rowses, but i no want see mor ecomplaints about this………..so its very possible i colse the project like public project…..
I are the first after lemur to try create midi controller touchscreen…. practical controller, and se the price to pay for that is very high.
If somebody think the design its copy of lemur, that its wrong, you can see detailed picture here:

http://www.monotouchlive.com/screenx.jpg

My design can be compared more with TETRIS and no with lemur.
Anyway any button created with nice look, and showed on touch screen, be compared inmediatly with lemur.

Any layout created for ableton can be inmediatly compared with lemur…its simple reason for that, the way to djing with ableton its only one or possible 2, and controlls needed are the same.
Like mixers, have sliders and eqs etc etc
Or all tcs have common things, or all cd players have common things, or all computers, or allpencils or any uisefull think created by any man.

Bets regards

DJ-Grobe

]]> By: Adrian Anders http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-30853 Adrian Anders Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:17:58 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-30853 Peter, you can't protect a UI design. Perhaps if they violated one of JazzMutant's software patents (which I personally don't think SHOULD be protected), they would have something to get angry about. As is, I don't think anyone would confuse their software product with the hardware/software combo that is Lemur. Honestly, a little competition would help spur JazzMutant to come up with ways of lowering costs (perhaps with a smaller feature set) in future products, as well as encourage further development of their UI to stay one step ahead of the biters. Peter, I honestly doubt you would be that angry with some kid who rips of the UI of a moog or ARP synth for his SE creation. Likewise, this is a cheap software product styled after a very expensive hardware/software one and is nothing to get all up in arms about. Chill. ATA Peter, you can’t protect a UI design. Perhaps if they violated one of JazzMutant’s software patents (which I personally don’t think SHOULD be protected), they would have something to get angry about. As is, I don’t think anyone would confuse their software product with the hardware/software combo that is Lemur. Honestly, a little competition would help spur JazzMutant to come up with ways of lowering costs (perhaps with a smaller feature set) in future products, as well as encourage further development of their UI to stay one step ahead of the biters.

Peter, I honestly doubt you would be that angry with some kid who rips of the UI of a moog or ARP synth for his SE creation. Likewise, this is a cheap software product styled after a very expensive hardware/software one and is nothing to get all up in arms about. Chill.

ATA

]]> By: velocipede http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-30760 velocipede Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:03:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/09/11/tacky-rip-off-of-lemur-touch-interface-in-software/#comment-30760 It's too bad that the designer made the design so similar. The history of technological progress has often been about imitating a great invention at a lower price and making it available to the wider public. Innovators are frequently poor entrepreneurs. Lemur should sue if their patents are violated. Many law firms will work for nothing until they win the case, in which case they take a large share of the proceeds. Lemur could end up owning this software. Personally, though, I think the designer should take this cue to revamp and revise the software to get it out of intellectual property infringement territory. It’s too bad that the designer made the design so similar. The history of technological progress has often been about imitating a great invention at a lower price and making it available to the wider public. Innovators are frequently poor entrepreneurs.
Lemur should sue if their patents are violated. Many law firms will work for nothing until they win the case, in which case they take a large share of the proceeds. Lemur could end up owning this software.
Personally, though, I think the designer should take this cue to revamp and revise the software to get it out of intellectual property infringement territory.

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