Comments on: Mixer + FireWire Audio Interface: M-Audio NRV10 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:08:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: runagate http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-268322 runagate Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:11:45 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-268322 OK so this is the only</i> Firewire mixer that returns what you send to the computer back into the analog mixer on more than just a stereo channel. I didn't realize this until today, which rockets this into first position for my choice of DAW interface. The support for VSTs, which is why I even want a Firewire mixer in the first place, comes from Audiffex's interFX application which, out of the box, is pretty much useless to me. However the upgrade to interFX pro is $150 which seems pretty steep just to get control of parameter automation for my VST instruments and fx. The upswing is that the latency on a modern Core Duo system should be about 3 ms or less so far as I can tell due to audio being processed without further ado across the actual Firewire audio input/output stream. If anyone else can tell me how to achieve such a thing without buying the NRV, drop me a line! Being that I intend to use the brilliant program Usine as my "live DAW" exclusively, the fact that the NRV's interFX pro version allows midi note and "control" (I assume they mean Midi CC's) messages to be received and that it can be controled by another app via ReWire this may be the godsend I've been waiting for. OK so this is the only Firewire mixer that returns what you send to the computer back into the analog mixer on more than just a stereo channel. I didn’t realize this until today, which rockets this into first position for my choice of DAW interface.

The support for VSTs, which is why I even want a Firewire mixer in the first place, comes from Audiffex’s interFX application which, out of the box, is pretty much useless to me. However the upgrade to interFX pro is $150 which seems pretty steep just to get control of parameter automation for my VST instruments and fx. The upswing is that the latency on a modern Core Duo system should be about 3 ms or less so far as I can tell due to audio being processed without further ado across the actual Firewire audio input/output stream. If anyone else can tell me how to achieve such a thing without buying the NRV, drop me a line!

Being that I intend to use the brilliant program Usine as my “live DAW” exclusively, the fact that the NRV’s interFX pro version allows midi note and “control” (I assume they mean Midi CC’s) messages to be received and that it can be controled by another app via ReWire this may be the godsend I’ve been waiting for.

]]> By: pitsam http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-256771 pitsam Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:43:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-256771 I found it for $549. Cover me I'm going in. I found it for $549. Cover me I’m going in.

]]> By: john light http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-183432 john light Mon, 28 May 2007 13:01:54 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-183432 Mackie's solution is a total miss: its wonderful mixer features cannot be used within the computer!!! You only get a "flat" input signal on your computer. So, you actually pay all this money and get only "half" of the product. Such a stupid move... On the contrary, this M-Audio unit looks like it does the job ideally. I am seriously thinking of purchasing it. If only someone could tell us how it really sounds. And if only it was a little cheaper... :-(( Mackie’s solution is a total miss:
its wonderful mixer features cannot be used within the computer!!! You only get a “flat” input signal on your computer. So, you actually pay all this money and get only “half” of the product. Such a stupid move…
On the contrary, this M-Audio unit looks like it does the job ideally. I am seriously thinking of purchasing it. If only someone could tell us how it really sounds.
And if only it was a little cheaper… :-((

]]> By: gary http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-125437 gary Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:47:53 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-125437 this is the only mixer of its type that returns more than 2 channels (10 in fact) from the DAW all the others listed return just a stereo mix (mackie,phonic etc) hence the price premium - now if they had included motorised faders, theyde really be talking this is the only mixer of its type that returns more than 2 channels (10 in fact) from the DAW all the others listed return just a stereo mix (mackie,phonic etc) hence the price premium - now if they had included motorised faders, theyde really be talking

]]> By: Jer http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-56671 Jer Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:57:09 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-56671 Personally, I think the Protools M-powered integration is worth something that Mackie, Phonic and Alesis just can't provide. Personally, I think the Protools M-powered integration is worth something that Mackie, Phonic and Alesis just can’t provide.

]]> By: GHuntech http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-55866 GHuntech Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:02:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-55866 HI All I would Like to suggest we become a little more broad minded and be a little less wedded to tradition and name recognition. There are products out there that at least match if not exceed this fine little M- Audio mixer. It has the same number output Buss count 1 & 2 + a Stereo L/R. Yes it even has 6 Real Direct outs /inserts. . . yes it Has 1394 aka Firewire interface. . . Mod # Helix Board 18 FireWire made by Yes Phonic. Best All Happy creativity gh HI All

I would Like to suggest we become a little more broad minded and be a little less wedded to tradition and name recognition. There are products out there that at least match if not exceed this fine little M- Audio mixer. It has the same number output Buss count 1 & 2 + a Stereo L/R. Yes it even has 6 Real Direct outs /inserts. . . yes it Has 1394 aka Firewire interface. . . Mod # Helix Board 18 FireWire made by Yes Phonic.

Best All
Happy creativity
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]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-54421 Peter Kirn Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:08:55 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-54421 I think it depends on what you're looking for. I agree, kingmetal, I like the standalone mixer features of the MOTU pieces (and a couple of other competing interfaces have mixer function as well, though I can't remember off-hand which ones -- certainly have tried and love the MOTU feature). And there are certainly competitors from Mackie and Yamaha to look at before shelling out the cash on the M-Audio. I think it depends on what you’re looking for. I agree, kingmetal, I like the standalone mixer features of the MOTU pieces (and a couple of other competing interfaces have mixer function as well, though I can’t remember off-hand which ones — certainly have tried and love the MOTU feature). And there are certainly competitors from Mackie and Yamaha to look at before shelling out the cash on the M-Audio.

]]> By: kingmetal http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-54272 kingmetal Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:29:49 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-54272 my Yamaha 01V96 only cost $1500, so $900 is a pretty horrid price for what this thing actually does. hell, I'd rather have a MOTU Traveler any day of the week. sure, the interface isn't as straight-forward as having real knobs and faders, but it does the same damn thing and is a helluva lot better of a deal. people tend to forget that the firewire MOTUs will work stand-alone as a 4 bus mixer. just my two cents, I suppose I could see some applications for this thing, but it just doesn't seem versatile enough to me for that price. my Yamaha 01V96 only cost $1500, so $900 is a pretty horrid price for what this thing actually does. hell, I’d rather have a MOTU Traveler any day of the week. sure, the interface isn’t as straight-forward as having real knobs and faders, but it does the same damn thing and is a helluva lot better of a deal. people tend to forget that the firewire MOTUs will work stand-alone as a 4 bus mixer. just my two cents, I suppose I could see some applications for this thing, but it just doesn’t seem versatile enough to me for that price.

]]> By: sleek1 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-53458 sleek1 Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:21:35 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-53458 Why pay $900 for this when Mackie makes Onyx Firewire Mixers in 3 versions? The 1640 is 4 bus, 16 channels for $1100. Why pay $900 for this when Mackie makes Onyx Firewire Mixers in 3 versions? The 1640 is 4 bus, 16 channels for $1100.

]]> By: BassTooth http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-52877 BassTooth Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:41:30 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/15/mixer-firewire-audio-interface-m-audio-nrv10/#comment-52877 i totally do have a 1402-VLZ that i got last christmas! i use the last 4 channels on it for my PSP, MBox, FirePod, and MicroKorg. i've always wondered how to rig it up to do seperate cue/headphone mixes. i totally do have a 1402-VLZ that i got last christmas! i use the last 4 channels on it for my PSP, MBox, FirePod, and MicroKorg. i’ve always wondered how to rig it up to do seperate cue/headphone mixes.

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