Comments on: Inside Track: What do Multiple CPU Cores Mean for Music? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:31:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: dennie http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-682910 dennie Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:20:35 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-682910 Expensive lines make systems less flexible, not more. They lead to copies for efficiency, aka denormalization, which is another word for "bug waiting to happen". While this can be dealt with, doing so involves lots of nasty tradeoffs, with bugs a common outcome.More to the point "more modular and more flexible" is neither necessary nor sufficient for producing good software. -------------------- dennie What do Multiple CPU Cores Mean for Music? <a href="http://www.widecircles.com" rel="nofollow">Social Bookmarking</a> Expensive lines make systems less flexible, not more. They lead to copies for efficiency, aka denormalization, which is another word for “bug waiting to happen”. While this can be dealt with, doing so involves lots of nasty tradeoffs, with bugs a common outcome.More to the point “more modular and more flexible” is neither necessary nor sufficient for producing good software.
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]]> By: flip http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-65009 flip Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:59:42 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-65009 I have seen some pretty massive gains from multiple CPU's in audio...In my projects on the past, as soon as you threw in a bunch of mastering plugins, impulse response reverbs and automation you would get audio overload error codes. Of course, if you were like me back then with everything on a G3 laptop, you saw this often and it was very frustrating to have to compromise. Even in today's laptops, you could have some real processing muscle, but still be shacked by slower hard drives + limitations of the amount of RAM you can have installed. I guess that's what drove me to use a Quad G5 with Logic Pro, which is coded to use all the processors. It now seems there's almost no limit to what I can throw at it, which is phenomenal...but there's always more to be desired: Faster hard drives or even better...faster hard drives with no moving parts. There are already solid state hard drives coming out in the laptop market. I'm sure anyone would agree that a silent computer would be a great asset. All the fans, clicking and whirring would never be missed. I'd say those are the top of my list, along with high end mics that are direct in. Can you imagine a really good condenser mic that simply plugs into a optical port or firewire port with no external audio card or pre-amp? Think of how portable and simple that could be if you were controlling it all with software...not to mention having the A/D conversion in the mic or the computer. Optical could also extend your mic to computer distance like crazy. I really believe that the future of extremely expensive outboard gear is going the way of the dinosaur and it couldn't happen sooner. My G5 with all the plugins has already replace rooms of gear I'd use 10 years ago, and without all the noise added to the signal from being routed all around. For now, I'll daydream and hope some product engineer reads this blog and takes us the next level :) I have seen some pretty massive gains from multiple CPU’s in audio…In my projects on the past, as soon as you threw in a bunch of mastering plugins, impulse response reverbs and automation you would get audio overload error codes. Of course, if you were like me back then with everything on a G3 laptop, you saw this often and it was very frustrating to have to compromise. Even in today’s laptops, you could have some real processing muscle, but still be shacked by slower hard drives + limitations of the amount of RAM you can have installed. I guess that’s what drove me to use a Quad G5 with Logic Pro, which is coded to use all the processors. It now seems there’s almost no limit to what I can throw at it, which is phenomenal…but there’s always more to be desired: Faster hard drives or even better…faster hard drives with no moving parts. There are already solid state hard drives coming out in the laptop market. I’m sure anyone would agree that a silent computer would be a great asset. All the fans, clicking and whirring would never be missed. I’d say those are the top of my list, along with high end mics that are direct in. Can you imagine a really good condenser mic that simply plugs into a optical port or firewire port with no external audio card or pre-amp? Think of how portable and simple that could be if you were controlling it all with software…not to mention having the A/D conversion in the mic or the computer. Optical could also extend your mic to computer distance like crazy. I really believe that the future of extremely expensive outboard gear is going the way of the dinosaur and it couldn’t happen sooner. My G5 with all the plugins has already replace rooms of gear I’d use 10 years ago, and without all the noise added to the signal from being routed all around. For now, I’ll daydream and hope some product engineer reads this blog and takes us the next level :)

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-63994 Peter Kirn Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:57:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-63994 Orange, which Centrino Duo model is that? Justin, thanks for the addition of details from REAPER; as you know, we're fans here. Anyway, Steve is qualified to talk about the Cakewalk stuff ... for me, the appeal of making a hardware investment like dual-core is that you can reap (sorry) benefits across a range of software you're using. Orange, which Centrino Duo model is that?

Justin, thanks for the addition of details from REAPER; as you know, we’re fans here. Anyway, Steve is qualified to talk about the Cakewalk stuff … for me, the appeal of making a hardware investment like dual-core is that you can reap (sorry) benefits across a range of software you’re using.

]]> By: Create Film Scores » Blog Archive » Blog Watch: CDM Article on Multiple-Core Computers http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-62998 Create Film Scores » Blog Archive » Blog Watch: CDM Article on Multiple-Core Computers Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:28:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-62998 [...] Create Digital Music published on December 6th a short but interesting article on Multiple-Core CPU computers and their use in music application. [...] [...] Create Digital Music published on December 6th a short but interesting article on Multiple-Core CPU computers and their use in music application. [...]

]]> By: Justin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-59856 Justin Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:06:11 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-59856 That was a nice SONAR advertisement.. So I'll mention here that REAPER supports multi-processor and multi-core systems wonderfully, as well as using processors in other machines on your local network (this feature is called ReaMote). http://www.reaper.fm/ -Justin That was a nice SONAR advertisement.. So I’ll mention here that REAPER supports multi-processor and multi-core systems wonderfully, as well as using processors in other machines on your local network (this feature is called ReaMote). http://www.reaper.fm/

-Justin

]]> By: foosnark http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-58851 foosnark Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:00:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-58851 In the FLStudio 6.4 beta with my new Core 2 Duo, there's a noticeable improvement when I enable multithreading support -- and it's not even a complete implementation yet (it only works for the instrument wrapper, not for effects). Definite benefits there. In the FLStudio 6.4 beta with my new Core 2 Duo, there’s a noticeable improvement when I enable multithreading support — and it’s not even a complete implementation yet (it only works for the instrument wrapper, not for effects). Definite benefits there.

]]> By: agent_orange http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-58692 agent_orange Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:29:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-58692 I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a "Centrino Duo" CPU. I use Ableton Live. In Live, i have the option "Multicore Support" turned ON. BUT: There is no improvement of perfomance. I can only use 50% CPU Ressources (that means 1 CPU at a Dualcore System). So it seems that the "centrino duo" is not same supported as the "Core Duo". Keep that in mind, when you buy new Hardware! I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a “Centrino Duo” CPU.
I use Ableton Live.
In Live, i have the option “Multicore Support” turned ON.

BUT: There is no improvement of perfomance. I can only use 50% CPU Ressources (that means 1 CPU at a Dualcore System).

So it seems that the “centrino duo” is not same supported as the “Core Duo”.
Keep that in mind, when you buy new Hardware!

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-58575 Peter Kirn Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:48:26 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-58575 See, now that we're testing turning off Flash image replacement for the pretty headlines, I actually *can't read them*. Yikes. See, now that we’re testing turning off Flash image replacement for the pretty headlines, I actually *can’t read them*.

Yikes.

]]> By: bliss http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/comment-page-1/#comment-58528 bliss Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:50:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/inside-track-what-to-multiple-cpu-cores-mean-for-music/#comment-58528 Beep! Beep! Typo in the title. Beep! Beep! Typo in the title.

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