Comments on: Pro Tools 7.3: New Features, Looping Tools, “Send to Sibelius” http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:44:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: artur http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-156762 artur Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:20:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-156762 LE does not support enough tracks to do any real post work in 5.1 anyways. Still it would be nice to be able to pull in some stems. As far as Nuendo goes, they do not support their audio system. They don't seem to want to go up against PT so you can forget about anyone in the editing business moving over to them. People have tried but Stienberg just dosn't seem to have the interest to support a movement. LE is fine until you get to feature films. And even there you can make use of an M-box fairly well with a dual processor system. LE does not support enough tracks to do any real post work in 5.1 anyways. Still it would be nice to be able to pull in some stems. As far as Nuendo goes, they do not support their audio system. They don’t seem to want to go up against PT so you can forget about anyone in the editing business moving over to them. People have tried but Stienberg just dosn’t seem to have the interest to support a movement. LE is fine until you get to feature films. And even there you can make use of an M-box fairly well with a dual processor system.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-62631 Peter Kirn Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:57:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-62631 Thanks, mediawest. Open source workstation: <a href="http://ardour.org/" rel="nofollow">Ardour</a> Currently on both Linux and Mac; Windows possible, too. I don't know how Ardour would stack up currently for post, however. Thanks, mediawest. Open source workstation:

Ardour

Currently on both Linux and Mac; Windows possible, too. I don’t know how Ardour would stack up currently for post, however.

]]> By: mediawest http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-60907 mediawest Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:25:08 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-60907 i work in Los Angeles, and PT is everywhere. i rarely see nuendo or other. i use acid with rewire all the time. also if you do alot of pre-pro with LE, its very easy to go into a major post with the mothership and go right to work.... also the ICON is the best surface ever. other than that PT needs alot of feature i find in much less money type software.... wheres the open source workstation? i work in Los Angeles, and PT is everywhere. i rarely see nuendo or other. i use acid with rewire all the time. also if you do alot of pre-pro with LE, its very easy to go into a major post with the mothership and go right to work…. also the ICON is the best surface ever.

other than that PT needs alot of feature i find in much less money type software….

wheres the open source workstation?

]]> By: Hellgi http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59696 Hellgi Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:48:38 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59696 In my opinion, for audio editing, nothing comes even close to the tools, stability and power of Pro Tools. I find it to be the most convenient way to work with audio. Too bad Digidesign's commercial policies are what they are... In my opinion, for audio editing, nothing comes even close to the tools, stability and power of Pro Tools. I find it to be the most convenient way to work with audio.

Too bad Digidesign’s commercial policies are what they are…

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59076 Peter Kirn Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:22:55 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59076 Well, so here's the question: why not go to SONAR, Logic, DP, or Nuendo for post (all of which support 5.1 ... and other things ... at LE prices)? I know there are things that aren't perfect about at least couple of those, but out of that whole list of options, is there really anything at this point stopping people from using these systems as alternatives other than file format compatibility with Digidesign and Avid? That's not a criticism of Pro Tools or people who choose to use it, either. But it seems to me that any market that is that locked into a single vendor is not a healthy market. On the video side, of course, Apple has touted a number of features, and even the new Superman movie got edited on Premiere of all things. In music production in general there's still a lot of diversity, but in post I haven't heard of anyone doing any serious work without Pro Tools. There are dozens of Adobe- and Apple-based video houses here in New York. I don't know of a single post facility -- not ONE -- that doesn't use Pro Tools. They might have a single machine devoted to Logic or DP in the back room or something like that, but rarely get to use it for actual post work; it usually gets used on other jobs. At least that's the impression from the people I've talked to. That's pretty hard-core vendor lock. Well, so here’s the question: why not go to SONAR, Logic, DP, or Nuendo for post (all of which support 5.1 … and other things … at LE prices)? I know there are things that aren’t perfect about at least couple of those, but out of that whole list of options, is there really anything at this point stopping people from using these systems as alternatives other than file format compatibility with Digidesign and Avid?

That’s not a criticism of Pro Tools or people who choose to use it, either. But it seems to me that any market that is that locked into a single vendor is not a healthy market.

On the video side, of course, Apple has touted a number of features, and even the new Superman movie got edited on Premiere of all things. In music production in general there’s still a lot of diversity, but in post I haven’t heard of anyone doing any serious work without Pro Tools. There are dozens of Adobe- and Apple-based video houses here in New York. I don’t know of a single post facility — not ONE — that doesn’t use Pro Tools. They might have a single machine devoted to Logic or DP in the back room or something like that, but rarely get to use it for actual post work; it usually gets used on other jobs. At least that’s the impression from the people I’ve talked to. That’s pretty hard-core vendor lock.

]]> By: subbasshead http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59068 subbasshead Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:10:06 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-59068 The multiple Quicktimes in PTS is def important for post, seeing as picture never seems to get locked nowadays unti lthe very last minute, having an easy means to compare versions of the cut is very very handy... Ditto with multichannel audio simply because 99% of location sound is now being recorded on multichannel hard disk recorders & the workflow of dealing with 50+ Gig of multitrack sync audio is a serious business... workarounds shouldnt be necessary... BUT the key thing with these two features is that they have added them to LE, ProTools HD has had them since 7.2 and the longer I can put off buying an HD system the better (pref infinitely)... So still no 5.1 in LE? yawn.... for all the new features its really naked greed that prevents this feature being added to LE... The multiple Quicktimes in PTS is def important for post, seeing as picture never seems to get locked nowadays unti lthe very last minute, having an easy means to compare versions of the cut is very very handy…
Ditto with multichannel audio simply because 99% of location sound is now being recorded on multichannel hard disk recorders & the workflow of dealing with 50+ Gig of multitrack sync audio is a serious business… workarounds shouldnt be necessary…
BUT the key thing with these two features is that they have added them to LE, ProTools HD has had them since 7.2 and the longer I can put off buying an HD system the better (pref infinitely)…
So still no 5.1 in LE?
yawn….
for all the new features its really naked greed that prevents this feature being added to LE…

]]> By: Adrian Anders http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58774 Adrian Anders Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:42:30 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58774 Instead of small incremental improvements that cost 50-200 bucks a pop, digi should just hold all improvements for the next .0 version. These sorts of upgrades that cost money on the digi side are almost alway free with other companys. Not to mention with FLStudio, all upgrades are free for life :-) ATA Instead of small incremental improvements that cost 50-200 bucks a pop, digi should just hold all improvements for the next .0 version.

These sorts of upgrades that cost money on the digi side are almost alway free with other companys.

Not to mention with FLStudio, all upgrades are free for life :-)

ATA

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58750 Peter Kirn Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:33:51 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58750 Good points, sure, and I do see lots of smaller improvements. In that case, though, why charge extra for TDM? (I guess because they can afford it!) I certainly see M-Powered as the better deal than LE at the moment, in terms of cost and flexibility. Like I said, I'm not questioning whether it keeps PT users happy. But it doesn't provide any big incentive to switch from the native platforms, and I have seen some PT users coming the opposite direction. Good points, sure, and I do see lots of smaller improvements. In that case, though, why charge extra for TDM? (I guess because they can afford it!)

I certainly see M-Powered as the better deal than LE at the moment, in terms of cost and flexibility.

Like I said, I’m not questioning whether it keeps PT users happy. But it doesn’t provide any big incentive to switch from the native platforms, and I have seen some PT users coming the opposite direction.

]]> By: Thomas http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58694 Thomas Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:37:44 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/12/06/pro-tools-73-new-features-looping-tools-send-to-sibelius/#comment-58694 I'm not doing anything very complicated in post, and I usually open the OMF without the video, so that's kind of useless to me. The ability to add tracks and change routing during playback is a big improvement, I think, and I'm always in favor of new time-stretch plugins. I don't think it's a bad deal for the price, which is pretty minimal (we're using LE 7.2 right now). I probably can't persuade my employers to spring for it now, but it'll go on the budget list for later, and I'm glad I didn't pick up my copy of M-powered yet. I’m not doing anything very complicated in post, and I usually open the OMF without the video, so that’s kind of useless to me.

The ability to add tracks and change routing during playback is a big improvement, I think, and I’m always in favor of new time-stretch plugins. I don’t think it’s a bad deal for the price, which is pretty minimal (we’re using LE 7.2 right now). I probably can’t persuade my employers to spring for it now, but it’ll go on the budget list for later, and I’m glad I didn’t pick up my copy of M-powered yet.

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