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		<title>By: Ephehople</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephehople</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hey there everyone i know you&#039;ve all probably heard this already but check out google for all the scandal thats been going around about her lately
Basically she made a sex tape for her boyfriend way back in HIGH SCHOOL who still had the tape and either sold it or released it. TMZ.com claims to have the tape but &quot;decided not to release it&quot; probably because she was underage and in high school at the time?

But either way what do you guys think about this? I really dont think she deserves to loose her title over it as we are all kids at one time. Here is a quote from Donald trump when a miss america CANIDATE had photos of her released being drunk and slutty.

&quot;The pictures were disgusting,&quot; Miss USA co-owner Donald Trump told Larry King on CNN Thursday night. &quot;These pictures were pretty far out there and that is not representative of Miss USA. We had no choice but to terminate her.&quot;

Well its time to see what happens when the real tape hits the net. I know that there are some photos circulating like this one http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/carrie-prejean-nude/ but i finally found the tape! Aparently some hacker found and released it so if you want to be one of the first to see it check out this link to watch it!  http://tinyurl.com/ye95zu7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there everyone i know you&#8217;ve all probably heard this already but check out google for all the scandal thats been going around about her lately<br />
Basically she made a sex tape for her boyfriend way back in HIGH SCHOOL who still had the tape and either sold it or released it. TMZ.com claims to have the tape but &#8220;decided not to release it&#8221; probably because she was underage and in high school at the time?</p>
<p>But either way what do you guys think about this? I really dont think she deserves to loose her title over it as we are all kids at one time. Here is a quote from Donald trump when a miss america CANIDATE had photos of her released being drunk and slutty.</p>
<p>&#8220;The pictures were disgusting,&#8221; Miss USA co-owner Donald Trump told Larry King on CNN Thursday night. &#8220;These pictures were pretty far out there and that is not representative of Miss USA. We had no choice but to terminate her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well its time to see what happens when the real tape hits the net. I know that there are some photos circulating like this one <a href="http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/carrie-prejean-nude/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/carrie-prejean-nude/</a> but i finally found the tape! Aparently some hacker found and released it so if you want to be one of the first to see it check out this link to watch it!  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ye95zu7" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ye95zu7</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jimbomel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi people,

I am new to this forum createdigitalmusic.com and hope that somebody can
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Any help is so much appreciated. Most important question: can a noob make money on the forex?

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<p>I am new to this forum createdigitalmusic.com and hope that somebody can<br />
give me an advice on the forex &#8211; I am looking for an introduction<br />
for beginners. I have already some knowledge about shares. (Hope this is the adequate category.)</p>
<p>Any help is so much appreciated. Most important question: can a noob make money on the forex?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Native Instruments Kore, Komplete, Reaktor @ Create Digital Music &#187; Advanced Mega-Round-Up: Going Microtonal with Synths</title>
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		<description>[...] If all this talk of tuning is leaving your head spinning, you might be interested in these resources on the topic: Wikipedia entry for Microtonal Music Playing in the Cracks by Jim Aiken MAX Microtuner External MicrotonalSynthesis.com MicrotonalGuitar.com Microtonal tutorial Microtonal Controllers on CDM [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Andrew Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Andrew Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... er, that should have been H-Pi TBX1, not Hi Pi : ) Also, the photos above are of an 8-octave prototype which I own. Please see photos of currently shipping keyboards &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.h-pi.com/TPX28intro.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.h-pi.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.h-pi.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; er, that should have been H-Pi TBX1, not Hi Pi : ) Also, the photos above are of an 8-octave prototype which I own. Please see photos of currently shipping keyboards <a href="http://www.h-pi.com/TPX28intro.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>
<p>Aaron Hunt<br />
H-Pi Instruments<br />
<a href="http://www.h-pi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-pi.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Andrew Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Andrew Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few corrections to the text above about the Tonal Plexus. It should read &quot;eight YEARS in development&quot;, not eight months. Also, I believe Peter meant to write &quot;exact intervals&quot; instead of &quot;exact instruments&quot;. The 2 and 4 octave models are now shipping. The instruments are made one at a time by hand, so some lead time is required. These instruments are part of a comprehensive expansion of traditional music theory which includes the MegaScore notation system. The Axis and Thummer are not natively microtonal and have no hardware mechanism for retuning. Hi Pi TBX1 and Tonal Plexus keyboards use a patented hardware retuning system, and each instrument is completely retunable using free software you can &lt;a href=&quot;//www.h-pi.com/downloads.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;download&lt;/a&gt; and try out. Retune your existing MIDI keyboard with TBX1 or forget 12 keys and get a Tonal Plexus. Please visit the H-Pi website.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.h-pi.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.h-pi.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few corrections to the text above about the Tonal Plexus. It should read &#8220;eight YEARS in development&#8221;, not eight months. Also, I believe Peter meant to write &#8220;exact intervals&#8221; instead of &#8220;exact instruments&#8221;. The 2 and 4 octave models are now shipping. The instruments are made one at a time by hand, so some lead time is required. These instruments are part of a comprehensive expansion of traditional music theory which includes the MegaScore notation system. The Axis and Thummer are not natively microtonal and have no hardware mechanism for retuning. Hi Pi TBX1 and Tonal Plexus keyboards use a patented hardware retuning system, and each instrument is completely retunable using free software you can <a href="//www.h-pi.com/downloads.html" rel="nofollow">download</a> and try out. Retune your existing MIDI keyboard with TBX1 or forget 12 keys and get a Tonal Plexus. Please visit the H-Pi website.</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Aaron Hunt<br />
H-Pi Instruments<br />
<a href="http://www.h-pi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-pi.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish someone would just produce a standard full-size MIDI Janko keyboard like the original Janko design without reducing it to little buttons. The Janko piano got the best possible endorsements at the time:

 &quot;If I were to begin my career anew it would be on this keyboard.&quot; - Arthur Rubinstein

&quot;This invention will have replaced the present piano keyboard in fifty years&#039; time!&quot; - Franz Liszt

I think the only reason it didn&#039;t take off is because companies were reluctant to compete with traditional pianos. But now there&#039;s no excuse: I picked up a MIDI keyboard for $8 at a charity shop. They&#039;re just so cheap to make they get thrown out!

Good Luck,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish someone would just produce a standard full-size MIDI Janko keyboard like the original Janko design without reducing it to little buttons. The Janko piano got the best possible endorsements at the time:</p>
<p> &#8220;If I were to begin my career anew it would be on this keyboard.&#8221; &#8211; Arthur Rubinstein</p>
<p>&#8220;This invention will have replaced the present piano keyboard in fifty years&#8217; time!&#8221; &#8211; Franz Liszt</p>
<p>I think the only reason it didn&#8217;t take off is because companies were reluctant to compete with traditional pianos. But now there&#8217;s no excuse: I picked up a MIDI keyboard for $8 at a charity shop. They&#8217;re just so cheap to make they get thrown out!</p>
<p>Good Luck,</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Plamondon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Plamondon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 08:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GovSilver mentioned that &quot;some microtonalists seem to think that the Thummer only supports up to 19 tones/octave.&quot;

With an electronic instrument, and especially one with an isomorphic (generalized) keyboard, it is convenient to think in terms of intervals rather than pitches. For example, imagine that (a) the buttons of an isomorphic keyboard are labelled with Do, Re, Mi, etc. rather than with Bb, C, D, etc., and that (b) electronic transposition is used to associate the desired tonic pitch with the appropriate tonic button.  (So, in Bb major, Bb would be associated with Do, whereas in Bb minor, Bb would be associated with La.) On the Thummer&#039;s Wicki note-layout (www.thummer.com), this places the notes of the current key&#039;s diatonic scale on the central white notes.  With (a) 19 notes per octave, (b) the current key&#039;s diatonic scale centered on the keyboard, and (b) the syntonic temperament (in which the major third is four tempered perfect fifths minus two octaves), the most common intervals of Common Practice 5-limit tonal harmony fall on the 19 buttons of the Thummer&#039;s keyboard, whether the current tuning is 7-tet (P5=686), quarter-comma meantone (P5=696), 12-tet (P5=700), Pythagorean (P5=702), 17-tet (P5=706), 5-tet (P5=720), or whatever.

Furthermore, on such a keyboard, the shape of a given musical structure (such as the major triad Do-Mi-So) is the same all across the syntonic temperament&#039;s tuning continuum, from 7-tet to 5-tet.  So once you&#039;ve learned to play a given musical structure -- a chord, a chord progression, a melody, whatever -- in one tuning, you&#039;ve learned how to play it in every tuning of that same temperament.

This makes it possible for a performer to change tuning dynamically, at run time, while playing a song, without changing fingering.  This makes it possible to play polyphonic tuning bends, temperament modulations, and even entirely new chord progressions (see www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System_Overview.pdf). The Wicki layout used by the Thummer is the optimal layout for this kind of &quot;dynamic tuning.&quot;

The point being: for any rank-2 tuning in the syntonic temperament&#039;s valid tuning range, 19 buttons per octave is quite enough.  For the schismatic temperament, you only need 21.  I&#039;m not sure about other temperaments, but I can pretty much guarantee that 211 buttons per octave is excessive.

An article on tuning invariance has recently been accepted by the Computer Music Journal, and another on metrics for comparing isomorphic note layouts is under peer review at the Journal of Mathematics and Music.

A skeletal overview of the ideas on which these papers are based can be found at www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System.pdf.

The advantages of the Thummer over the various other isomorphic keyboards available are that (a) it&#039;s more expressive, offering up to 13 degrees of freedom; (b) it&#039;s tiny, being about the size and weight of a thick paperback book, partially opened; and (b) it&#039;s cheap, at under US$500.

Now, if only I can get the darn thing done and on the market!  &quot;Shipping&quot; is also a very important feature!  ;-)

Jim Plamondon
CEO, Thumtronics Inc
The New Shape of Music(tm)
www.thummer.com
Austin, Texas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GovSilver mentioned that &#8220;some microtonalists seem to think that the Thummer only supports up to 19 tones/octave.&#8221;</p>
<p>With an electronic instrument, and especially one with an isomorphic (generalized) keyboard, it is convenient to think in terms of intervals rather than pitches. For example, imagine that (a) the buttons of an isomorphic keyboard are labelled with Do, Re, Mi, etc. rather than with Bb, C, D, etc., and that (b) electronic transposition is used to associate the desired tonic pitch with the appropriate tonic button.  (So, in Bb major, Bb would be associated with Do, whereas in Bb minor, Bb would be associated with La.) On the Thummer&#8217;s Wicki note-layout (www.thummer.com), this places the notes of the current key&#8217;s diatonic scale on the central white notes.  With (a) 19 notes per octave, (b) the current key&#8217;s diatonic scale centered on the keyboard, and (b) the syntonic temperament (in which the major third is four tempered perfect fifths minus two octaves), the most common intervals of Common Practice 5-limit tonal harmony fall on the 19 buttons of the Thummer&#8217;s keyboard, whether the current tuning is 7-tet (P5=686), quarter-comma meantone (P5=696), 12-tet (P5=700), Pythagorean (P5=702), 17-tet (P5=706), 5-tet (P5=720), or whatever.</p>
<p>Furthermore, on such a keyboard, the shape of a given musical structure (such as the major triad Do-Mi-So) is the same all across the syntonic temperament&#8217;s tuning continuum, from 7-tet to 5-tet.  So once you&#8217;ve learned to play a given musical structure &#8212; a chord, a chord progression, a melody, whatever &#8212; in one tuning, you&#8217;ve learned how to play it in every tuning of that same temperament.</p>
<p>This makes it possible for a performer to change tuning dynamically, at run time, while playing a song, without changing fingering.  This makes it possible to play polyphonic tuning bends, temperament modulations, and even entirely new chord progressions (see <a href="http://www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System_Overview.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System_Overview.pdf</a>). The Wicki layout used by the Thummer is the optimal layout for this kind of &#8220;dynamic tuning.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point being: for any rank-2 tuning in the syntonic temperament&#8217;s valid tuning range, 19 buttons per octave is quite enough.  For the schismatic temperament, you only need 21.  I&#8217;m not sure about other temperaments, but I can pretty much guarantee that 211 buttons per octave is excessive.</p>
<p>An article on tuning invariance has recently been accepted by the Computer Music Journal, and another on metrics for comparing isomorphic note layouts is under peer review at the Journal of Mathematics and Music.</p>
<p>A skeletal overview of the ideas on which these papers are based can be found at <a href="http://www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thummer.com/ThumTone/X_System.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>The advantages of the Thummer over the various other isomorphic keyboards available are that (a) it&#8217;s more expressive, offering up to 13 degrees of freedom; (b) it&#8217;s tiny, being about the size and weight of a thick paperback book, partially opened; and (b) it&#8217;s cheap, at under US$500.</p>
<p>Now, if only I can get the darn thing done and on the market!  &#8220;Shipping&#8221; is also a very important feature!  ;-)</p>
<p>Jim Plamondon<br />
CEO, Thumtronics Inc<br />
The New Shape of Music(tm)<br />
<a href="http://www.thummer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thummer.com</a><br />
Austin, Texas</p>
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