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	<title>Comments on: Ableton Live Users Should Wait to Upgrade to Vista; Incompatibility Details</title>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just installed Ableton 7 and when I import music clips to Dj (reason I bought it) it sounds like a mobile phone conversation when you&#039;re losing signal - stttttuuuuutttteeeeerrrrring.
Annoying - Goodbye PC hello Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just installed Ableton 7 and when I import music clips to Dj (reason I bought it) it sounds like a mobile phone conversation when you&#8217;re losing signal &#8211; stttttuuuuutttteeeeerrrrring.<br />
Annoying &#8211; Goodbye PC hello Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: jupiter8</title>
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		<dc:creator>jupiter8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just installed my copy of version 7 on my laptop running windows vista plus sp1. The zoom function in the sample display window is completely non-functioning! very frustrating. clicking and dragging in this wndow results in the cursor leaping up and to the left and no zoom... anyone else had this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just installed my copy of version 7 on my laptop running windows vista plus sp1. The zoom function in the sample display window is completely non-functioning! very frustrating. clicking and dragging in this wndow results in the cursor leaping up and to the left and no zoom&#8230; anyone else had this problem?</p>
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		<title>By: vista sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>vista sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i have just tried my ableton 7 with the numark dj IO and i must say it is terrible. the cpu goes to a hundred percent frequently leaving me with lots of sound stutter. f*** vista i am going back to xp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i have just tried my ableton 7 with the numark dj IO and i must say it is terrible. the cpu goes to a hundred percent frequently leaving me with lots of sound stutter. f*** vista i am going back to xp.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.
Its been almost a year since the last negative comments on Vista-Ableton performance. That should be good news for me, cause I just bought a pc with Vista.
Also M-audio products have sufered with the OS change (I use a Firewire 410).
After buying a new pc (with Vista) I went to install my sound card to get things started. Well,.. it just didnt work...at all. So I went to M-audio web site and got the drivers for it (the drivers are there to download). Now it works fine, no problem at all, it just works in a different way. In XP the reproduced sound would get to the sound card via input 1/2, and now the sound gets there via SP DIF, although audio signal still travels through the firewire cable. It probably was designed that way (still, Ill ask them) and it seems to work fine (seems - havent realy tested it intensively).

About Ableton Live, well, it doesnt work properly (Im still using Live 5.2, yes I know, its too old).
Im upgrading to live 7 this week and hope it works fine, just as my M-audio sound card does now.
Can anyone tell me about Live 7 performance under Vista? Anything I should or shouldnt do to get a solid working station?

Just a word on Microsoft.
No wonder the guy is the richest man on the planet. This is a massive twist in every industry world wide. 
Every company (sound, graphics, etc.) has to spend time and money developing drivers, when they could spend that time and that money developing and improving their own software. Professional users would thank that.
So, instead, what we have is a draw back while every company in the world sits down to solve some problem (lots of problems) Microsoft came up with.
All this costs money, to me to you and to M-audio or Ableton.
So next time I buy a computer, I dont think it will be a Windows OS based workstation. Why should I give any more money to a company that gives trouble instead of giving you solutions. This is not moving forward.
Millions will follow, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.<br />
Its been almost a year since the last negative comments on Vista-Ableton performance. That should be good news for me, cause I just bought a pc with Vista.<br />
Also M-audio products have sufered with the OS change (I use a Firewire 410).<br />
After buying a new pc (with Vista) I went to install my sound card to get things started. Well,.. it just didnt work&#8230;at all. So I went to M-audio web site and got the drivers for it (the drivers are there to download). Now it works fine, no problem at all, it just works in a different way. In XP the reproduced sound would get to the sound card via input 1/2, and now the sound gets there via SP DIF, although audio signal still travels through the firewire cable. It probably was designed that way (still, Ill ask them) and it seems to work fine (seems &#8211; havent realy tested it intensively).</p>
<p>About Ableton Live, well, it doesnt work properly (Im still using Live 5.2, yes I know, its too old).<br />
Im upgrading to live 7 this week and hope it works fine, just as my M-audio sound card does now.<br />
Can anyone tell me about Live 7 performance under Vista? Anything I should or shouldnt do to get a solid working station?</p>
<p>Just a word on Microsoft.<br />
No wonder the guy is the richest man on the planet. This is a massive twist in every industry world wide.<br />
Every company (sound, graphics, etc.) has to spend time and money developing drivers, when they could spend that time and that money developing and improving their own software. Professional users would thank that.<br />
So, instead, what we have is a draw back while every company in the world sits down to solve some problem (lots of problems) Microsoft came up with.<br />
All this costs money, to me to you and to M-audio or Ableton.<br />
So next time I buy a computer, I dont think it will be a Windows OS based workstation. Why should I give any more money to a company that gives trouble instead of giving you solutions. This is not moving forward.<br />
Millions will follow, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: john s</title>
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		<dc:creator>john s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 12:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started using live 6.01 on xp and it seemed to work fine then I got a vista laptop and the audio haas alot of pops latency and the impulse is sluggish I set up all the audio buffers and settings but still got bad performance I will have to go back to xp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started using live 6.01 on xp and it seemed to work fine then I got a vista laptop and the audio haas alot of pops latency and the impulse is sluggish I set up all the audio buffers and settings but still got bad performance I will have to go back to xp</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Vista Launch Day: What&#8217;s Compatible for Musicians?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Vista Launch Day: What&#8217;s Compatible for Musicians?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Updated: We&#8217;ve seen an updated, official statement from Ableton support on their forums promising bug fixes in the short term and full support for native Vista technology later this year. See: Ableton Live Users Should Wait to Upgrade to Vista; Incompatibility Details [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Updated: We&#8217;ve seen an updated, official statement from Ableton support on their forums promising bug fixes in the short term and full support for native Vista technology later this year. See: Ableton Live Users Should Wait to Upgrade to Vista; Incompatibility Details [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, Richard, think you&#039;re onto something ... it probably has to do with where Live stores its internal MP3s -- i.e., in something Vista considers a system folder.

I&#039;ll check out 6.0.5. To be personally frank, I&#039;ve pared down my Windows setup. Max is already running beautifully on Vista. If I get Live, I&#039;m ready to make the jump. It&#039;s mostly the audio apps that are a big issue; the other apps are mostly fine. 

Windows Media Player does seem to find new and creative ways of refusing to play DVDs now, but that&#039;s about it. (Waiting on Vista-ready VLC.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, Richard, think you&#8217;re onto something &#8230; it probably has to do with where Live stores its internal MP3s &#8212; i.e., in something Vista considers a system folder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check out 6.0.5. To be personally frank, I&#8217;ve pared down my Windows setup. Max is already running beautifully on Vista. If I get Live, I&#8217;m ready to make the jump. It&#8217;s mostly the audio apps that are a big issue; the other apps are mostly fine. </p>
<p>Windows Media Player does seem to find new and creative ways of refusing to play DVDs now, but that&#8217;s about it. (Waiting on Vista-ready VLC.)</p>
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		<title>By: RichardL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichardL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, definitely mileage varies. The MP3 thing probably has something to do with file permissions on some folder. My Vista install was an upgrade from the Vista beta, so who knows?

Apparently the brand new live 6.05 no longer disables Aero glass on Vista. Haven&#039;t tried it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, definitely mileage varies. The MP3 thing probably has something to do with file permissions on some folder. My Vista install was an upgrade from the Vista beta, so who knows?</p>
<p>Apparently the brand new live 6.05 no longer disables Aero glass on Vista. Haven&#8217;t tried it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Richard. It&#039;s possible your mileage may vary. I&#039;d say the resulting pattern is enough for Ableton users to at least dual-boot here, though. That said, note that some of the &quot;native technologies&quot; -- like WaveRT audio -- could be non-issues for some users. (In the case of WaveRT, for instance, that&#039;s PCI-only, so USB/FireWire users won&#039;t care.) So, with a couple of bug fixes, this could be fine. 

Worth mentioning, though, as unlike with the Intel Mac transition&#039;s Universal Binary, there&#039;s not a single up or down status for apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Richard. It&#8217;s possible your mileage may vary. I&#8217;d say the resulting pattern is enough for Ableton users to at least dual-boot here, though. That said, note that some of the &#8220;native technologies&#8221; &#8212; like WaveRT audio &#8212; could be non-issues for some users. (In the case of WaveRT, for instance, that&#8217;s PCI-only, so USB/FireWire users won&#8217;t care.) So, with a couple of bug fixes, this could be fine. </p>
<p>Worth mentioning, though, as unlike with the Intel Mac transition&#8217;s Universal Binary, there&#8217;s not a single up or down status for apps.</p>
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		<title>By: RichardL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichardL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally haven&#039;t had any permission problems with MP3s in Live 6.03 under Vista. (I&#039;ve got problems with MP3s under Live 6 on XP and Vista, but that&#039;s different.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally haven&#8217;t had any permission problems with MP3s in Live 6.03 under Vista. (I&#8217;ve got problems with MP3s under Live 6 on XP and Vista, but that&#8217;s different.)</p>
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