Comments on: BT Robbed of $150,000 in Gear, Wants to Protect Yours, Give Away Tools http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:22:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Justin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-133268 Justin Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:47:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-133268 it is about time that somebody took the initiative for something like the subscription service BT is pushing for. every time i apply for renter's insurance i am asked a series of surprised questions when i tell them how much music gear i will be keeping in my bedroom. it would be nice to have someone besides the skeptical insurance agency guaranteeing my gear's safety:) !!! it is about time that somebody took the initiative for something like the subscription service BT is pushing for. every time i apply for renter’s insurance i am asked a series of surprised questions when i tell them how much music gear i will be keeping in my bedroom. it would be nice to have someone besides the skeptical insurance agency guaranteeing my gear’s safety:) !!!

]]> By: Michael Moncur http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-130837 Michael Moncur Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:04:16 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-130837 Keyboard Magazine published a note from BT about this in the most recent issue. I believe he mentioned in that note that his insurance had lapsed. Keyboard Magazine published a note from BT about this in the most recent issue. I believe he mentioned in that note that his insurance had lapsed.

]]> By: Scootside http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-130056 Scootside Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:58:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-130056 I guess it pays to be watching "It Takes A Thief" on Discovery. Heh, Good response to the crime though. I guess it pays to be watching “It Takes A Thief” on Discovery. Heh, Good response to the crime though.

]]> By: curious http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129960 curious Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:50:20 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129960 Thats true...and if that were the case then his backups are likely gone as well. I would definitely like to help the effort he proposed, but honestly having purchased equipment from others myself I never pressured them about the legitimacy of their story. I probably should have, but cruising for a deal you look for good prices. Is the equipment stolen? Maybe we shouldn't buy stuff from individuals at all. And if a keyboard is more than $2000 then yeah there should be a consumer DB listing its serial number status - like with vehicle titles. It would have to be grassroots though and designed with consumer privacy and protection from information harvesting. If I disclosed or 'shared' for more 'security', my transfer of authority to another agency with that information is done so nervously. I think everyone including merchants would support a 3rd party group for consumer protection. Well hopefully he can turn this around and it looks he has found some inspiration in it - the mark of true creative genius! Thats true…and if that were the case then his backups are likely gone as well. I would definitely like to help the effort he proposed, but honestly having purchased equipment from others myself I never pressured them about the legitimacy of their story. I probably should have, but cruising for a deal you look for good prices. Is the equipment stolen? Maybe we shouldn’t buy stuff from individuals at all. And if a keyboard is more than $2000 then yeah there should be a consumer DB listing its serial number status - like with vehicle titles. It would have to be grassroots though and designed with consumer privacy and protection from information harvesting. If I disclosed or ’shared’ for more ’security’, my transfer of authority to another agency with that information is done so nervously. I think everyone including merchants would support a 3rd party group for consumer protection.

Well hopefully he can turn this around and it looks he has found some inspiration in it - the mark of true creative genius!

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129950 Peter Kirn Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:26:43 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129950 He describes it as a studio robbery, Brent, so I think that's what it means. But I'm with you -- theft can happen really, really easily. And I don't see a myspace blog post as being BT trying to get more insurance money. I think theft is a big issue for all of us, and aside from insurance, it would be great to look at other ways of alleviating the problem. He describes it as a studio robbery, Brent, so I think that’s what it means. But I’m with you — theft can happen really, really easily. And I don’t see a myspace blog post as being BT trying to get more insurance money.

I think theft is a big issue for all of us, and aside from insurance, it would be great to look at other ways of alleviating the problem.

]]> By: W. Brent Latta http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129948 W. Brent Latta Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:21:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129948 I think you're all assuming that the gear was stolen from a locked-up studio. There is little in his posting, other than the use of the word 'studio', that indicates where or how the gear was stolen. Someone could have easily broken into a moving truck, or something else that was hauling or storing his gear in between shows, etc. I used to work at a music instrument shop that had security cameras, alarms and grilled windows. That didn't stop us from being robbed by a group who had clearly cased the place. They simply backed an SUV through the front of the building, ran in, stole the stuff they wanted, and drove away all in less than 5 minutes. I think you’re all assuming that the gear was stolen from a locked-up studio. There is little in his posting, other than the use of the word ’studio’, that indicates where or how the gear was stolen. Someone could have easily broken into a moving truck, or something else that was hauling or storing his gear in between shows, etc.

I used to work at a music instrument shop that had security cameras, alarms and grilled windows. That didn’t stop us from being robbed by a group who had clearly cased the place. They simply backed an SUV through the front of the building, ran in, stole the stuff they wanted, and drove away all in less than 5 minutes.

]]> By: curious http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129942 curious Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:59:20 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129942 Hungry, I was wondering the same thing. I heard once that NI had 50 laptops stolen when everyone was away at NAMM. Locks are one thing, surveillance (security) is another. IE, locks are not security. Obviously someone had keys and knew there were no cameras. All you need is one camera on each entrance and then let your peeps know that there is surveillance in place for their protection. Even if the cameras are down, an insider can never be sure. I also think the assumption that it was starving musicians who stole the gear is ridiculous! If there is a market for the gear, then its at risk period. Speculating that poor musicians are in the wrong thinking they need to steal gear is beyond naive especially considering this has happened to him before. Of all the thieves in the world, I would imagine the musical thieves to be the least likely to take his shit - not only because they share his challenges, but because they know the complications involved in selling it. More likely, it was a non-musician like a delivery person or random guest who saw a bunch of bling and was ignorant enough to come back and take it. I'll take a risk in saying it, but if he did have a policy in place, he would have to produce receipts and probably some amount of diligence to collect a claim. Since this has happened before, he may have to do everything he can to make sure he gets value back for the equipment. I read on his site that he sold his car to pay for This Binary Universe. He is also starting his own software company and may need that 150K to keep paying his programmers - send me to hell - but most of that equipment and the digital data it contained is replaceable and since we know he is a pro, surely had backups in place for touring!! I feel for his loss, but my innate skepticism suggests otherwise. I think the real goal of the press release style page is to protect his claim, not his gear. If he had any insurance at all. Free speech - deal with it. Hungry, I was wondering the same thing. I heard once that NI had 50 laptops stolen when everyone was away at NAMM. Locks are one thing, surveillance (security) is another. IE, locks are not security. Obviously someone had keys and knew there were no cameras. All you need is one camera on each entrance and then let your peeps know that there is surveillance in place for their protection. Even if the cameras are down, an insider can never be sure.

I also think the assumption that it was starving musicians who stole the gear is ridiculous! If there is a market for the gear, then its at risk period. Speculating that poor musicians are in the wrong thinking they need to steal gear is beyond naive especially considering this has happened to him before.

Of all the thieves in the world, I would imagine the musical thieves to be the least likely to take his shit - not only because they share his challenges, but because they know the complications involved in selling it. More likely, it was a non-musician like a delivery person or random guest who saw a bunch of bling and was ignorant enough to come back and take it.

I’ll take a risk in saying it, but if he did have a policy in place, he would have to produce receipts and probably some amount of diligence to collect a claim. Since this has happened before, he may have to do everything he can to make sure he gets value back for the equipment. I read on his site that he sold his car to pay for This Binary Universe. He is also starting his own software company and may need that 150K to keep paying his programmers - send me to hell - but most of that equipment and the digital data it contained is replaceable and since we know he is a pro, surely had backups in place for touring!!

I feel for his loss, but my innate skepticism suggests otherwise. I think the real goal of the press release style page is to protect his claim, not his gear. If he had any insurance at all. Free speech - deal with it.

]]> By: Hungry Antelope Ape http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129737 Hungry Antelope Ape Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:11:36 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129737 I feel for BT, and think he is being super cool about the whole thing. But, I have to question how you get $150,000 in equipment stolen? When you have that much equipment, it is usually insured, and the insurance company usually insists on serious security precautions. That, and all the big studios I have been too where locked up like fort knox. Especially after having it already happen once before. In cases like this, I would suspect that one of BTs "friends" probably stole the equipment. I feel for BT, and think he is being super cool about the whole thing.

But, I have to question how you get $150,000 in equipment stolen? When you have that much equipment, it is usually insured, and the insurance company usually insists on serious security precautions. That, and all the big studios I have been too where locked up like fort knox. Especially after having it already happen once before.

In cases like this, I would suspect that one of BTs “friends” probably stole the equipment.

]]> By: Jim Tudor http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129579 Jim Tudor Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:32:47 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129579 Karma will come back 3times to those damn thieves.... BT has soem balls and is doing something about this...its about time! Im all for it BT!!!!! Karma will come back 3times to those damn thieves….
BT has soem balls and is doing something about this…its about time! Im all for it BT!!!!!

]]> By: Adrian Anders http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129557 Adrian Anders Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:34:16 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/02/27/bt-robbed-of-150000-in-gear-wants-to-protect-yours-give-away-tools/#comment-129557 I remember the first time he had to cancel a USC appearance in Seattle... I was mad bummed at the time. Thieving rat bastards, I hope they get theirs. I remember the first time he had to cancel a USC appearance in Seattle… I was mad bummed at the time.

Thieving rat bastards, I hope they get theirs.

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