Comments on: Ableton Teams Up with Cycling ‘74 on “New Products” http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:51:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: John Sweet http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-387277 John Sweet Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:27:43 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-387277 It's time for somebod at Ableton or Cycling 74 to start talking, even in the slightest. Like a goal for a release date, or what areas they're focusing on. Once Max 5 is out, they won't have any excuses. It’s time for somebod at Ableton or Cycling 74 to start talking, even in the slightest. Like a goal for a release date, or what areas they’re focusing on. Once Max 5 is out, they won’t have any excuses.

]]> By: Julien http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-385724 Julien Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:10:06 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-385724 I'm so interested by this powerful brains collaboration ! Indeed, Max/Msp seems to become a real interface between me, my MIDI controller & Ableton live. More details this day of 31th, january 2008 ? ? I’m so interested by this powerful brains collaboration !

Indeed, Max/Msp seems to become a real interface between me, my MIDI controller & Ableton live.

More details this day of 31th, january 2008 ? ?

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Free: Find DRM-Free Music, Make Glitchy Sounds, Built in Max http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-315614 Create Digital Music » Free: Find DRM-Free Music, Make Glitchy Sounds, Built in Max Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:01:58 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-315614 [...] Mac Universal Binary + Windows XP versions, free, and another demonstration of what’s possible building plug-ins with Max/MSP. Here they are, pictured in Ableton Live. Boy, there’s a lot of overlap of interest between Ableton lovers and Cycling ‘74 gurus. If only those two companies would work together on something — oh, yeah. They are. [...] [...] Mac Universal Binary + Windows XP versions, free, and another demonstration of what’s possible building plug-ins with Max/MSP. Here they are, pictured in Ableton Live. Boy, there’s a lot of overlap of interest between Ableton lovers and Cycling ‘74 gurus. If only those two companies would work together on something — oh, yeah. They are. [...]

]]> By: polymorphic http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-156745 polymorphic Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:33:08 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-156745 hmmm.. interesting news. I wonder if this will open up the way for an interface between Pure Data (PD) and Live ? hmmm.. interesting news.

I wonder if this will open up the way for an interface between Pure Data (PD) and Live ?

]]> By: Symbiont http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-152196 Symbiont Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:04:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-152196 Hi, It seems I have happened upon some seemingly knowlegeable sorts. Howdy. Quick question gentlemen/ladies, how do you get progs like Resolume to 'talk' to ableton? Have heard coldcut use a little prog to link their vjamm to ableton...not quite sure of the name though....any comments? Hi, It seems I have happened upon some seemingly knowlegeable sorts. Howdy. Quick question gentlemen/ladies, how do you get progs like Resolume to ‘talk’ to ableton? Have heard coldcut use a little prog to link their vjamm to ableton…not quite sure of the name though….any comments?

]]> By: James http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148588 James Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:29:09 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148588 ahahah i think if Ableton were becoming “A Division of Avid i would uninstall it now just to be safe... ahahah i think if Ableton were becoming “A Division of Avid i would uninstall it now just to be safe…

]]> By: Sam http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148263 Sam Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:18:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148263 Actually, depending on the functionality of the ableton and cycling74 objects, you MAY be able to create a loop without problems... sorry, nerdy comment. Actually, depending on the functionality of the ableton and cycling74 objects, you MAY be able to create a loop without problems…
sorry, nerdy comment.

]]> By: Mattijs http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148169 Mattijs Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:28:08 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148169 As a fulltime Max user/programmer that uses Live during all the remaining time, I can only say that this could be a very interesting development. I am very curious about the intended products. As a fulltime Max user/programmer that uses Live during all the remaining time, I can only say that this could be a very interesting development. I am very curious about the intended products.

]]> By: anon http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148020 anon Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:49:15 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-148020 No I mean a platform to host the applications, not a plugin host... I'm talking about the host OS, Windows and MacOS and linux and . Sorry for the confusion between IT speak and ITB speak. I don't mean to make any judgement on the stability of the apps... It is a shame though, to hear you say "Computers Crash" like it's just a fact of life. Computers don't crash unless the hardware or software is faulty. I have servers with months and years of uptime (no not redundant systems), but my DAW, before it was demoted to librarian duties, was lucky to stay up for a few days of full use. They both have the same tech doing the same level of testing ;) Plugin host developers need not be restricted by third parties and plugin specs, or OS vendors. They could be all teaming up and eradicating these problems. Of course I'm aware that business interests unfortunately come before the music, so that's unlikely. It was really meant as a sarcastic joke, it's hardly realistic... Although one can dream :) I'd just like to hear news that goes "Just in: Ableton, C74, RME and Microsoft release 99.999% uptime DAW with 12% speed increase over standard installations on XP" instead of the usual "Newsflash: New version of our software has cool new features." No I mean a platform to host the applications, not a plugin host… I’m talking about the host OS, Windows and MacOS and linux and .
Sorry for the confusion between IT speak and ITB speak. I don’t mean to make any judgement on the stability of the apps…

It is a shame though, to hear you say “Computers Crash” like it’s just a fact of life. Computers don’t crash unless the hardware or software is faulty. I have servers with months and years of uptime (no not redundant systems), but my DAW, before it was demoted to librarian duties, was lucky to stay up for a few days of full use. They both have the same tech doing the same level of testing ;)

Plugin host developers need not be restricted by third parties and plugin specs, or OS vendors. They could be all teaming up and eradicating these problems. Of course I’m aware that business interests unfortunately come before the music, so that’s unlikely.

It was really meant as a sarcastic joke, it’s hardly realistic… Although one can dream :) I’d just like to hear news that goes “Just in: Ableton, C74, RME and Microsoft release 99.999% uptime DAW with 12% speed increase over standard installations on XP” instead of the usual “Newsflash: New version of our software has cool new features.”

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-147852 Peter Kirn Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:48:39 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/ableton-teams-up-with-cycling-74-on-new-products/#comment-147852 @anon: Which are you talking about? Max/MSP I've found to be very reliable. The only crashes I've had recently were all related to buggy externals (and thus, not C74 code). Ableton Live I've found to be the single most reliable host I use, and I know a number of plug-in developers who agree. Even so, I carefully test any plug-ins I use, as they tend to be the cause of trouble. Computers crash, and since by definition you're asking for a "host platform," you're courting software with plug-ins, which risks instability. It's instability that can be managed, but you have to test. And developers are restricted by third-party software coders and the specifications of the plug-in formats. @anon: Which are you talking about?

Max/MSP I’ve found to be very reliable. The only crashes I’ve had recently were all related to buggy externals (and thus, not C74 code).

Ableton Live I’ve found to be the single most reliable host I use, and I know a number of plug-in developers who agree. Even so, I carefully test any plug-ins I use, as they tend to be the cause of trouble.

Computers crash, and since by definition you’re asking for a “host platform,” you’re courting software with plug-ins, which risks instability. It’s instability that can be managed, but you have to test. And developers are restricted by third-party software coders and the specifications of the plug-in formats.

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