Comments on: Monomes Aplenty: New Models Coming, and Enough Buttons for All http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:39:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Create Digital Music » Monomes: New Model Pricing, DIYers Share Their Creations http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-316074 Create Digital Music » Monomes: New Model Pricing, DIYers Share Their Creations Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:28:33 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-316074 [...] A box covered with buttons and lights can be much more. Such it is with the Monome, the open source controller for music and multimedia. Beloved for its simplicity, the Monome continues to earn fans. The original 40h is gone, but as we’ve seen here, a new line of models is coming to satisfy your unique sizing needs. Today, we learned pricing and availability. Numbered by numbers of buttons/lights: [...] [...] A box covered with buttons and lights can be much more. Such it is with the Monome, the open source controller for music and multimedia. Beloved for its simplicity, the Monome continues to earn fans. The original 40h is gone, but as we’ve seen here, a new line of models is coming to satisfy your unique sizing needs. Today, we learned pricing and availability. Numbered by numbers of buttons/lights: [...]

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190288 Peter Kirn Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:52:18 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190288 @poopoo: if you want cheaper devices with buttons, without the craftsmanship, sustainable parts, extensive software support and community support, and design that goes into these, you can probably find one. It's a small-run, domestically-produced, high-quality device -- and there aren't many of those, and it can prove to be a better value in the long run because you won't need to buy other crappy devices one after another, and you can repair it if anything goes wrong. If you really want a large-run, unsustainably-produced, low-quality device with little to no software support that will cause you support and configuration headaches and offers overly rigid connection to software, I can recommend a wide range of hardware. I just generally assume that's of less interest to people. In fact, generally, I assume that with short-run or big-run, larger-name brands, our job is to pick out the stuff of value that's enjoyable to use. @poopoo: if you want cheaper devices with buttons, without the craftsmanship, sustainable parts, extensive software support and community support, and design that goes into these, you can probably find one. It’s a small-run, domestically-produced, high-quality device — and there aren’t many of those, and it can prove to be a better value in the long run because you won’t need to buy other crappy devices one after another, and you can repair it if anything goes wrong. If you really want a large-run, unsustainably-produced, low-quality device with little to no software support that will cause you support and configuration headaches and offers overly rigid connection to software, I can recommend a wide range of hardware. I just generally assume that’s of less interest to people. In fact, generally, I assume that with short-run or big-run, larger-name brands, our job is to pick out the stuff of value that’s enjoyable to use.

]]> By: poopoo http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190177 poopoo Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:59:54 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190177 I wish Behringer would hurry up and copy these. They are ridiculously expensive for such a simple device. Let's hope Uli picks one up on ebay soon. I wish Behringer would hurry up and copy these. They are ridiculously expensive for such a simple device. Let’s hope Uli picks one up on ebay soon.

]]> By: NineTailedFox http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190174 NineTailedFox Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:39:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190174 d_r_e, the grid itself on the 40h is 145mm/5.7" to a side. Any idea how crowded it is inside the K49? d_r_e, the grid itself on the 40h is 145mm/5.7″ to a side. Any idea how crowded it is inside the K49?

]]> By: Kennedy http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190016 Kennedy Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:07:24 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-190016 I posted this on the Arduino forum but figured I'd copy it here too. With the cost of the rubber pads so high I wish somebody made/sold a 4x4 board using one of these: http://www.qprox.com/products/qt60xxx.php that was designed so that you could connect multiple 4x4 board's together with additional hardware/processing. It would also be cool if the board was built to accommodate LEDS for each button(although to keep the top side flat I suppose there would have to be holes cut on the board with the LED mounted on the back side). Another nice thing about a board like this is that you wouldn't have to worry about tooling a button grid/frame and could simply paint on a clear sheet of plastic and epoxy the board to it. Unfortunately, due to the parts package size there's no way I could lay the board out and build it... I posted this on the Arduino forum but figured I’d copy it here too. With the cost of the rubber pads so high I wish somebody made/sold a 4×4 board using one of these: http://www.qprox.com/products/qt60xxx.php
that was designed so that you could connect multiple 4×4 board’s together with additional hardware/processing. It would also be cool if the board was built to accommodate LEDS for each button(although to keep the top side flat I suppose there would have to be holes cut on the board with the LED mounted on the back side). Another nice thing about a board like this is that you wouldn’t have to worry about tooling a button grid/frame and could simply paint on a clear sheet of plastic and epoxy the board to it. Unfortunately, due to the parts package size there’s no way I could lay the board out and build it…

]]> By: Vlad Spears http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189848 Vlad Spears Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:58:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189848 It's raining Monomes! It's true that I'm biased... I took to the grid like a fish to water from the earliest demo videos, but I love seeing the Monome crew succeeding in this endeavor. Bees and chicks! @Hungry Antelope: Using just hardware, how would you map the 64 buttons to MIDI notes? It seems like you would lose so much functionality if they were hard-coded. You do need a laptop or desktop for it, but there are already several different ways to map these devices to MIDI. One of these, a Max app I wrote called Balron, allows you to lay a multitude of 8-tone scales across the grid of the 40h so you can use it as a melodic controller. I use it with my hardware synths all the time. It’s raining Monomes! It’s true that I’m biased… I took to the grid like a fish to water from the earliest demo videos, but I love seeing the Monome crew succeeding in this endeavor. Bees and chicks!

@Hungry Antelope:
Using just hardware, how would you map the 64 buttons to MIDI notes? It seems like you would lose so much functionality if they were hard-coded.

You do need a laptop or desktop for it, but there are already several different ways to map these devices to MIDI. One of these, a Max app I wrote called Balron, allows you to lay a multitude of 8-tone scales across the grid of the 40h so you can use it as a melodic controller. I use it with my hardware synths all the time.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189785 Peter Kirn Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:17:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189785 @Hungry Antelope: The logic board uses serial, and it's all very Arduino like. If you want to add MIDI, you could, I would think, via the kit... and it's open, so you could document the process. :) @Hungry Antelope: The logic board uses serial, and it’s all very Arduino like. If you want to add MIDI, you could, I would think, via the kit… and it’s open, so you could document the process. :)

]]> By: Hungry Antelope http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189782 Hungry Antelope Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:14:27 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189782 But once again they have no plans for MIDI... which means that this is pretty much a toy for the laptop warriors. But once again they have no plans for MIDI… which means that this is pretty much a toy for the laptop warriors.

]]> By: precious | weblog » monome forever http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189692 precious | weblog » monome forever Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:43:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189692 [...] More extended coverage over at CDM. As soon as I have played around with the monome a bit more, I’ll let you know about my experiences. I’m planning on using it live pretty soon. Write a comment   [...] [...] More extended coverage over at CDM. As soon as I have played around with the monome a bit more, I’ll let you know about my experiences. I’m planning on using it live pretty soon. Write a comment   [...]

]]> By: bliss http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189689 bliss Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:37:23 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/06/05/monomes-aplenty-new-models-coming-and-enough-buttons-for-all/#comment-189689 Y'all crazy. Y’all crazy.

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