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	<title>Comments on: WWDC Preview: Apple to Improve USB, FireWire Audio Support in 10.5</title>
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		<title>By: K Zustang</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Zustang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what the bleep you guys are talking about, but it is obvious as always that Mac users just love Microsoft so much that they never miss a chance to mention it.

I have the simplest built-in FireWire interface and I make music on PIV pc with a FireWire Onyx 400F by Mackie. It works just great. No difference in latency and stability comparing OSX on a G4-G5. Vista performs better than XP on some parameters. networking over FW is not that important for many of us.

Where do you guys get off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what the bleep you guys are talking about, but it is obvious as always that Mac users just love Microsoft so much that they never miss a chance to mention it.</p>
<p>I have the simplest built-in FireWire interface and I make music on PIV pc with a FireWire Onyx 400F by Mackie. It works just great. No difference in latency and stability comparing OSX on a G4-G5. Vista performs better than XP on some parameters. networking over FW is not that important for many of us.</p>
<p>Where do you guys get off?</p>
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		<title>By: continuous</title>
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		<dc:creator>continuous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the new firewire support means we&#039;ll see new drivers from MOTU etc. I&#039;m not so crazy about class compliant drivers for audio interfaces because issues seem to go unaddressed. Companies like RME develop excellent drivers and that seem to generally out perform class-compliant setups.

just my .02Â¢

I am excited about Leopard though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the new firewire support means we&#8217;ll see new drivers from MOTU etc. I&#8217;m not so crazy about class compliant drivers for audio interfaces because issues seem to go unaddressed. Companies like RME develop excellent drivers and that seem to generally out perform class-compliant setups.</p>
<p>just my .02Â¢</p>
<p>I am excited about Leopard though.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, and FireWire networking in general seems like a solution in search of a problem. Despite the fact that they drew criticism over it, I think Microsoft made the right call trying to trim some fat in their APIs, like letting DirectSound go in favor of cross-platform, open audio via OpenAL. (Vista still winds up being awfully huge, but ...)

But I&#039;m more interested in the enhanced audio capabilities in OS X. Driver-free / class-compliant always makes me raise my eyebrows. If we could get rid of all audio drivers and settle on spec, I&#039;d be pretty happy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, and FireWire networking in general seems like a solution in search of a problem. Despite the fact that they drew criticism over it, I think Microsoft made the right call trying to trim some fat in their APIs, like letting DirectSound go in favor of cross-platform, open audio via OpenAL. (Vista still winds up being awfully huge, but &#8230;)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m more interested in the enhanced audio capabilities in OS X. Driver-free / class-compliant always makes me raise my eyebrows. If we could get rid of all audio drivers and settle on spec, I&#8217;d be pretty happy. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was also a part of XP but I think they didn&#039;t bother with it in vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was also a part of XP but I think they didn&#8217;t bother with it in vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jerome -- yes, definitely. (I think it was actually in one of the 10.1 releases, but I&#039;m not sure.) But there&#039;s obviously something new here in the FW driver department, whether that impacts networking or not... I&#039;ll report back if I can get some more details. (And maybe this allows audio networking, since this is an audio event?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jerome &#8212; yes, definitely. (I think it was actually in one of the 10.1 releases, but I&#8217;m not sure.) But there&#8217;s obviously something new here in the FW driver department, whether that impacts networking or not&#8230; I&#8217;ll report back if I can get some more details. (And maybe this allows audio networking, since this is an audio event?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there,

 Networking over FireWire is part of OS X since Jaguar (10.2), if not even earlier.

Jerome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,</p>
<p> Networking over FireWire is part of OS X since Jaguar (10.2), if not even earlier.</p>
<p>Jerome</p>
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