Comments on: Apple Tells Developers “We Invented Internet”, Forgets Multimedia and Multi-Touch

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:50:54 +0000

Don’t worry. The newsroom article says nothing we don’t already know. Basically, it’s Apple’s press release announcing they don’t need an SDK because they have a web browser — same bizarre spin as in the keynote.

And, of course, ironically, while you can read CDM on the iPhone (Flash isn’t required), you won’t be able to read that article. Brilliant. :)

By: Mesmer

Mesmer — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:36:15 +0000

This is pathetic,
the “newsroom article” needs flash 8 plugin to render.

Oh, I suppose its an web2.0 article
***would mumble indecent grumbles but I don’t know how to do that, outside my native language***

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:11:22 +0000

I had meant to comment on the article in Wired. I know a few of the developers in that story. :)

Core Animation is indeed a good thing in that it builds this into the OS in an intelligent, accessible way. I think a lot of the initial ways you’ll see it used will be subtle — and rightfully so, because animation has to be used delicately to be useful. We’ll talk more about this soon and over the coming months. And it will be interesting to see if it makes it into Apple’s pro apps, as well.

By: EJ

EJ — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:01:01 +0000

Did you catch this article in Wired? It made me more excited about Jaguar than the keynote - it definitely makes me wonder about the potential uses for music interfaces. This developer interview is also pretty interesting,.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:03:17 +0000

@poopoo: I agree… do those apps tend to work on devices like the Moto Q, or do you need the “smarter” WM phones? And don’t forget about WM-compatible MilkyTracker. And the similar lineup for Palm.

I think there are even a couple of music apps for Symbian. Not so much for Blackberry.

@EJ: Logic 8 may or may not require 10.5; I think I was either linking to a rumor that thought it would, or just speculating the release *might* be timed with an OS release. That said, it certainly seems possible — Final Cut Studio 2 requires 10.4.9. (Pretty specific requirement!)

I would say Core Animation got a lot of notice from the Mac community, but the problem is these technologies are under developer NDAs, and Apple chose not to really talk much more about them at the keynote. So you can expect to hear lots more in October when suddenly a whole bunch of apps ship with the OS. ;) (That’s something no one has mentioned — I’m guessing the OS delay should put third-party developers in much better sync with the OS release timetable.)

By: EJ

EJ — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:54:15 +0000

Yeah, it’s patently ridiculous that a company at the forefront of desktop richness would claim that web apps can be functional equivalents – it hasn’t received a lot of notice (outside of a good Wired article), but Core Animation in Leopard is actually going to be huge in this department. I saw that part of the keynote as an apologetic shrug of the shoulders.

Speaking of Core Animation, I’ve heard that a lot of Mac applications will require Leopard because it’ll be integral to building “new school” programs.
It definitely gives some credence to the “Logic 8″ rumors (an article at CDM said it would require 10.5) and explains the long delay between 7 and their new flagship program…

By: Bresslau

Bresslau — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:04:58 +0000

No iPhone for me either. Though I wish I had that big beautiful screen on my Xplore M68.

And Web 2.0 doesn’t exist. Never has. But it is a catchy and usefull expression for some purposes.

By: poopoo

poopoo — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:06:46 +0000

There are some great music apps for Windows Mobile. Sequencers with plugins and wav export (Griff), Multi-track recorders (Meteor), Guitar tuners, Metronomes and real-time effects processors etc.

And it’s not just music stuff; graphic calculators, Skype and SIP clients, console emulators are great candidates for mobile apps but they probably wont happen as web apps.

Seems such a wasted opportunity on the iPhone, especially with the multi-touch screen.

By: ed

ed — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:57:34 +0000

I guess if the iPhone bombs no one will care that they didn’t bother to write apps for it. If it is the next iPod an SDK may appear.

I agree with Mr Schnable. I think people are being cautious.

The alternative would have been polyphonic theremin emulators on the iPhone. What does a chord sound like on a Theremin?

By: JMS

JMS — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:33:06 +0000

No sdk = not the end of the world: http://thenewsroom.com/details/396043