Comments on: Preview: Reason 4 Hits Beta; New Sequencer and Thor Synth; Ships Fall 2007

By: Julio

Julio — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:43:17 +0000

Reason “haters” and “defenders” both sound like tools to me. Reason is good at some things and it sucks at others… Fl Studio is good at some things and it sucks at others… To each his own. I PERSONALLY like Reason, but I always find myself going back to Fruity because of MY workflow (VSTs anyone?, Nexus is the shit), and yes Synth1 is an absolute beast!

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:29:46 +0000

@Critical Bliss: Totally with you until the VSTs “don’t sound as good” bit. So, we can’t just agree that both Reason and VSTs – as with any software DSP – have the ability to sound good, and that this has far more to do with how things get used?

By: Critical Bliss

Critical Bliss — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:18:26 +0000

I’m tired of these idiotic statements by Reason haters. I use Cubase along with Reason and ReWire is easy to use. Reason is WELL worth the investment. If you think otherwise, then you truly do not understand how to use the program. I simply can get ANY sound I hear in my head much more intuitively and easily (with LOW cpu usage) via Reason. Quite frankly, VST’s don’t sound as good in my opinion; the other programs aren’t nearly as flexible. I get a much stronger sound from Reason, and then I use Cubase for added effects or “tube” amps if I’m so inclined during the mixing process. We need more Reason users to step up here and tell the whole truth. Instead we have VST sycophants (and this is from a Cubase fan). Grow up.

By: SimplyPut

SimplyPut — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:37:13 +0000

VSTsarewaybetter you are really something.
I am beginning to like you, nothing deep but when someone is so lost, you begin to feel compassion and forgiveness and then even if there is nothing left (as in your case),
I smile….

Farewell. Don’t waste your time to respond,
this is my last visit, and 4 a good REASON :-)

By: VSTsarewaybetter

VSTsarewaybetter — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:11:25 +0000

What makes me laugh most of all is that idiots who love Reason come on here to defend it from the likes of me, trying to make out that it’s just great, and then when they are faced with the barrage of negative points above, which tell you the huge PROBLEMS in Reason, they say “A ‘real’ musician can make good music with anything, it doesn’t matter what you use!”

HAHAHA. How pathetic. In that case, let’s all pack up and go home, and get out our VL-Tones.

Seriously, Reason zealots will do anything to convince themselves that they haven’t bought a pup – just go back through this entire page and read all of the PROBLEMS that people have written about Reason. They aren’t going away. I can’t even believe that anybody bought Reason 2, let alone 3 or 4. Look at how the VST world has advanced since Reason 1. Which would you rather have? Reason 4, or Buzz and Omnisphere? Which has the best sound, and the most power?

By: VSTsarewaybetter

VSTsarewaybetter — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:03:34 +0000

“One thing after another my collection of synths got somehow established around a very specific sound spectrum not available in Reason alone.”

I rest my case – you fool.
I can use Buzz, and ANY VSTs I want. I can use Renoise and ANY VSTs I want. No need to fart about with a SECOND program just to run bloody VSTs in the first place. That’s the Reason-tards answer to everything “Just Rewire it”.

You spread your stupidity to other people, who then fall for it and buy Reason, and then THEY have to defend their stupid purchase to the hilt, and THEY start saying how ‘wonderful’ it is, and so the whole miserable cycle continues.

By: VSTsarewaybetter

VSTsarewaybetter — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:56:04 +0000

Dajay, absolute rubbish. According to your ‘logic’, there should be no music magazines, and NO discussion at all, anywhere, at any time, about the merits of one piece of music software over another…

Funnily enough, millions of people disagree with you, and are constantly reading about music software, and other people’s opinions of it.

As for my 6,000 patches on Synth1 – how does that prevent me from making music?

Reason 4 is crippled, overpriced rubbish. Even the idiots who have bought it are admitting that it has major faults, and wishing for better things from it.

“then I had to go rewire in order to keep R4 with me.”

That’s because you’re an idiot. Why not just use a DAW that supports VSTs in the first place?

I repeat my statement:

“SimplyPut, I see that you still cannot produce a single â€˜amazingâ€™ Thor patch.”

You’ve had MONTHS to produce an ‘amazing’ Thor patch, and we’re all still waiting…

Hell, even Buzz is more powerful than Reason.

By: SimplyPut

SimplyPut — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:15:37 +0000

Well said dajay,
I use Reason 4 for a very basic reason: It works for me.
I was doing 100% with it until I discovered Pianoteq, then I had to go rewire in order to keep R4 with me. One thing after another my collection of synths got somehow established around a very specific sound spectrum not available in Reason alone.
So today I use a total of 6 outstanding VST’s and Reason 4 and, let me tell you, when you mix them the right way you’ve got a real Risotto!

So, I’m not in love with any of my instruments, these are just great TOOLS, I am in love with my music.
You can’t ask anything better.

Peace.

By: dajay

dajay — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:40:57 +0000

guys,

just my 2 cents on this topic. I’m a reason user since 2.5. I started working with Ataris and Notator, then Cubase, then Logic with VSTs, also tried Ableton and the other stuff. And I have to say I love Reason 4. most people are suprised what one can get out of that software. and yes, my tracks are released and yes I do earn money with it.

now to my point: i really hate it when people argue about what method of producing music is better. there is no best method. if you have the right skills and a good ear, you can get a killer track out of an old casio keyboard. people bitching about the right hard- or software are 99% NOT very good producers/musicians. why? because they waste their time arguing instead of spending that time to be creative with their tools. I can tell if someone is serious about the music just by the way he is NOT bragging about his latest VST-Plugin. that’s what distinguishes a pro from an amateur, guys.

oh and btw: if you are not able to get a really good analog sound out of THOR .. maybe you should change your profession. ;)

By: SimplyPut

SimplyPut — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:19:57 +0000

A minor correction:
in MuLab the Combinator equivalent is the Effect called MUX and not the MuSynth.