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	<title>Comments on: Yamaha Releases Tenori-on Videos, Site, Launch Event Details &#8212; Coverage Wanted!</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TUESDAY 4TH SEPTEMBER 2007 
6pm-11pm
Phonica Records / Vinyl Factory, London
Featuring:
Robert Lippok (Domino/To Rococo Rot), Toshio Iwai (Media Artist), Secondo (Dreck Records), Capracara (Soul Jazz) +More ...
Admission Free
Please arrive early to avoid disappointment!

WEDNESDAY 5th SEPTEMBER 
8pm-midnight
Carbon - a Futuresonic and Sequence event
Mint Lounge, Oldham Street, Manchester
Featuring:
Robert Lippok (Domino/To Rococo Rot), Secondo (Dreck Records), Graham Massey (808 State / Toolshed)
Admission Free
Please arrive early to avoid disappointment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TUESDAY 4TH SEPTEMBER 2007<br />
6pm-11pm<br />
Phonica Records / Vinyl Factory, London<br />
Featuring:<br />
Robert Lippok (Domino/To Rococo Rot), Toshio Iwai (Media Artist), Secondo (Dreck Records), Capracara (Soul Jazz) +More &#8230;<br />
Admission Free<br />
Please arrive early to avoid disappointment!</p>
<p>WEDNESDAY 5th SEPTEMBER<br />
8pm-midnight<br />
Carbon - a Futuresonic and Sequence event<br />
Mint Lounge, Oldham Street, Manchester<br />
Featuring:<br />
Robert Lippok (Domino/To Rococo Rot), Secondo (Dreck Records), Graham Massey (808 State / Toolshed)<br />
Admission Free<br />
Please arrive early to avoid disappointment!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GaryG: Great idea!

@Damon: Yes, to say nothing of the mythology of the glockenspiel. Actually, if I had to use one word to describe most traditional music instruments, ergonomic would most certainly not be one of them. Well, unless you rolled a La-Z-Boy up to your Steinway, which is a very nice way to spend an afternoon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GaryG: Great idea!</p>
<p>@Damon: Yes, to say nothing of the mythology of the glockenspiel. Actually, if I had to use one word to describe most traditional music instruments, ergonomic would most certainly not be one of them. Well, unless you rolled a La-Z-Boy up to your Steinway, which is a very nice way to spend an afternoon!</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the first CDM caption compo is in order with that photo of the atomheart chappie.

and no entries regarding where the leads going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the first CDM caption compo is in order with that photo of the atomheart chappie.</p>
<p>and no entries regarding where the leads going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difficulty of designing new controllers, is you have the ergonomic mythology of keyboards, string things, drums, and brass to find your way through. I think the struggle is to create something that is more a visceral instrument than what appears to be an exaggerated cell phone.

Thing about keyboards, string things, drums, and brass is that you can seem actual body parts moving and pushing and pulling in a very physical way, which is most important in the area of performance. 

Also, it is a bit hard to relate to obscure controllers if you are most familiar with traditional instruments. Having banged on a keyboard and strummed a guitar, I know what a performer has over come in order to play that instrument. Traditional instruments have a context, that is not easy to approach without developing controllers that in some fashion retain some of that traditional instrument energy.

It is just not all that exciting to watch even a virtuoso player exorcizing the same muscle  groups I use to operate my microwave oven. So, for the most part, I think until folks can create rather unique hybrids of more traditional instruments, many of these greatly revolutionary controller concepts will just not connect with most audiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difficulty of designing new controllers, is you have the ergonomic mythology of keyboards, string things, drums, and brass to find your way through. I think the struggle is to create something that is more a visceral instrument than what appears to be an exaggerated cell phone.</p>
<p>Thing about keyboards, string things, drums, and brass is that you can seem actual body parts moving and pushing and pulling in a very physical way, which is most important in the area of performance. </p>
<p>Also, it is a bit hard to relate to obscure controllers if you are most familiar with traditional instruments. Having banged on a keyboard and strummed a guitar, I know what a performer has over come in order to play that instrument. Traditional instruments have a context, that is not easy to approach without developing controllers that in some fashion retain some of that traditional instrument energy.</p>
<p>It is just not all that exciting to watch even a virtuoso player exorcizing the same muscle  groups I use to operate my microwave oven. So, for the most part, I think until folks can create rather unique hybrids of more traditional instruments, many of these greatly revolutionary controller concepts will just not connect with most audiences.</p>
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		<title>By: bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, the bit about a a great instrument having properties that the body can learn but the mind cannot is a naive statement to make at the announcement of a new physical instrument.  No one yet knows much about it or what a musician who uses it might be capable of to make a well considered statement.  Second, wise man or not, the statement is only an opinion formed through someone's perspective and experiences.  It's not the discovery of a law that anyone can independently observe.  Basically, one should just take the words of that wise man, those particular words, with a grain of salt.

The violin and the piano represent technological advances, their functions just happen not to be located within the code of software that's embedded in a sliver of silicon.  Tenori-On as compared to, for example, fxPansion's GURU, meets the criteria for that wise musician's statement quite well, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the bit about a a great instrument having properties that the body can learn but the mind cannot is a naive statement to make at the announcement of a new physical instrument.  No one yet knows much about it or what a musician who uses it might be capable of to make a well considered statement.  Second, wise man or not, the statement is only an opinion formed through someone&#8217;s perspective and experiences.  It&#8217;s not the discovery of a law that anyone can independently observe.  Basically, one should just take the words of that wise man, those particular words, with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>The violin and the piano represent technological advances, their functions just happen not to be located within the code of software that&#8217;s embedded in a sliver of silicon.  Tenori-On as compared to, for example, fxPansion&#8217;s GURU, meets the criteria for that wise musician&#8217;s statement quite well, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: I do hang out with percussionists. They tend to prefer marimbas. Okay, I should have picked a different example -- like a glock. ;)

Seriously, though, mastering any instrument can involve muscle memory. Does the xylophone really defy mental understanding? What you're talking about is not the result of a great instrument design; it's the natural properties of bars and mallets.(The metallophone turns out to be a pretty great instrument design, but nothing about the xylophone per se.) Those physical properties are indeed missing here because they're abstracted from the instrumental interface. On the other hand, a lot of what you're describing is endemic to the player, not the instrument.

You've got me thinking, though. I think the really fundamental issue here is that things like the Tenori-on are better understood as a kind of compositional device, somewhere between an instrument as it's traditionally understood and an interactive score. And the ability to reach a level of physical interaction beyond the cognitive level of the instrument may simply be a matter of finding someone who can develop virtuosity on it, who in a way defies the essential design of the thing.

None of this means "go run out and buy a Tenori-on." But at least seeing various instrument designs can help us reflect back upon what's essential in the player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: I do hang out with percussionists. They tend to prefer marimbas. Okay, I should have picked a different example &#8212; like a glock. ;)</p>
<p>Seriously, though, mastering any instrument can involve muscle memory. Does the xylophone really defy mental understanding? What you&#8217;re talking about is not the result of a great instrument design; it&#8217;s the natural properties of bars and mallets.(The metallophone turns out to be a pretty great instrument design, but nothing about the xylophone per se.) Those physical properties are indeed missing here because they&#8217;re abstracted from the instrumental interface. On the other hand, a lot of what you&#8217;re describing is endemic to the player, not the instrument.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got me thinking, though. I think the really fundamental issue here is that things like the Tenori-on are better understood as a kind of compositional device, somewhere between an instrument as it&#8217;s traditionally understood and an interactive score. And the ability to reach a level of physical interaction beyond the cognitive level of the instrument may simply be a matter of finding someone who can develop virtuosity on it, who in a way defies the essential design of the thing.</p>
<p>None of this means &#8220;go run out and buy a Tenori-on.&#8221; But at least seeing various instrument designs can help us reflect back upon what&#8217;s essential in the player.</p>
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		<title>By: dead_red_eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>dead_red_eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yeah, I'm all excited for this thing! I can't freaking wait!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell yeah, I&#8217;m all excited for this thing! I can&#8217;t freaking wait!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DJ McManus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I suspect we may just need to wait a while as people discover what to do with this thing — such is always the way as an instrument one person designed has to become second nature to someone else."


Maybe once everyone gets bored of it and they all end up selling for $50 used ... a few guys from Detroit will re-invent music with them.


I think this is THE NEW ABACCUS! Shoes of the future, trousers of the past! In search of The New Sound!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suspect we may just need to wait a while as people discover what to do with this thing — such is always the way as an instrument one person designed has to become second nature to someone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe once everyone gets bored of it and they all end up selling for $50 used &#8230; a few guys from Detroit will re-invent music with them.</p>
<p>I think this is THE NEW ABACCUS! Shoes of the future, trousers of the past! In search of The New Sound!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, the xylophone very much meets that test. Issues of how hard to strike the bars, where to strike them, and more, all fit into the category of "body learning" not "cogitation". I think you'd better hang out with a few more excellent percussionists ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, the xylophone very much meets that test. Issues of how hard to strike the bars, where to strike them, and more, all fit into the category of &#8220;body learning&#8221; not &#8220;cogitation&#8221;. I think you&#8217;d better hang out with a few more excellent percussionists ;)</p>
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		<title>By: bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand why it's not being released in the States first, but no idea why such a thing wouldn't be launched in Japan simultaneously.  Sounds cliché but Japan loves novelty of almost any kind, so it really is a mystery.  Maybe something to do with the proximity of Aphex Twin and the clone wars?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why it&#8217;s not being released in the States first, but no idea why such a thing wouldn&#8217;t be launched in Japan simultaneously.  Sounds cliché but Japan loves novelty of almost any kind, so it really is a mystery.  Maybe something to do with the proximity of Aphex Twin and the clone wars?  ;)</p>
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