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	<title>Comments on: Ableton Live for $150: New LE Version, DJ Friendly But Plug-in Crippled</title>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will LE work for me. I just want to use a MIDI external mixer to make DJ mixes at home. I also only have mp3&#039;s. Is it true you can only mix with WAV??

Then I want to go back into the mix and make adjustments and possible make loops and edit for my final cut pro projects. 

Will LE work for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will LE work for me. I just want to use a MIDI external mixer to make DJ mixes at home. I also only have mp3&#8217;s. Is it true you can only mix with WAV??</p>
<p>Then I want to go back into the mix and make adjustments and possible make loops and edit for my final cut pro projects. </p>
<p>Will LE work for me?</p>
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		<title>By: You Tube IT</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Tube IT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Feeling Good Inside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feeling Good Inside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Make Money Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Money Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are live scenes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are live scenes?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, but you can&#039;t transmit external MIDI to other applications, just as you can&#039;t transmit outside the computer (the inter-app driver will look like just another external device to Live).

Assuming there aren&#039;t limitations on MIDI devices, though, you&#039;re absolutely right.

I love the idea of an all-arpeggiator set. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, but you can&#8217;t transmit external MIDI to other applications, just as you can&#8217;t transmit outside the computer (the inter-app driver will look like just another external device to Live).</p>
<p>Assuming there aren&#8217;t limitations on MIDI devices, though, you&#8217;re absolutely right.</p>
<p>I love the idea of an all-arpeggiator set. :)</p>
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		<title>By: tricil</title>
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		<dc:creator>tricil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Note on the routing stuff: inter-app MIDI wonâ€™t work anyway, since LE canâ€™t receive MIDI clock or, evidently, transmit MIDI&quot;

Peter: that only applies to external midi

you can&#039;t Ext MIDI OUT

but internal, all day, hence 900 arpegiators</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Note on the routing stuff: inter-app MIDI wonâ€™t work anyway, since LE canâ€™t receive MIDI clock or, evidently, transmit MIDI&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter: that only applies to external midi</p>
<p>you can&#8217;t Ext MIDI OUT</p>
<p>but internal, all day, hence 900 arpegiators</p>
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		<title>By: poopoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>poopoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limitations are a good thing.  Working within a set of constraints encourages creative solutions, besides 10 instruments and 14 effects is a LOT more than are used on many fantastic recordings.

Small wonder KVRites don&#039;t like it, those guys are OCD on the VST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limitations are a good thing.  Working within a set of constraints encourages creative solutions, besides 10 instruments and 14 effects is a LOT more than are used on many fantastic recordings.</p>
<p>Small wonder KVRites don&#8217;t like it, those guys are OCD on the VST</p>
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		<title>By: Ableton Releases Live 6 LE at wwwdotbasicbeatsdotdk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ableton Releases Live 6 LE at wwwdotbasicbeatsdotdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LÃ¦s mere om det pÃ¥ CDM. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LÃ¦s mere om det pÃ¥ CDM. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Street price is just under US$500. Don&#039;t know what the going rate is in other parts of the world. But yes, I agree that it makes absolute sense to have a $150 version. 

This is always a challenge, though. You don&#039;t want to cannibalize the sales of the main product. Maybe you don&#039;t have the development resources to build something new for the entry level (as Apple did with GarageBand, Steinberg did with Segue, etc.), and maybe you want to give them your main product anyway as a hook into the full version. So you start taking things out. What do you take out? If you don&#039;t take out things that really do have value, you endanger the higher-end product.

Unfortunately, that does make these limited edition products far less meaningful, because they have what are essentially arbitrary limitations. It&#039;s not a problem unique to Ableton, either. And since their two major synths are already unbundled (Operator and Sampler), there wasn&#039;t so much to remove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Street price is just under US$500. Don&#8217;t know what the going rate is in other parts of the world. But yes, I agree that it makes absolute sense to have a $150 version. </p>
<p>This is always a challenge, though. You don&#8217;t want to cannibalize the sales of the main product. Maybe you don&#8217;t have the development resources to build something new for the entry level (as Apple did with GarageBand, Steinberg did with Segue, etc.), and maybe you want to give them your main product anyway as a hook into the full version. So you start taking things out. What do you take out? If you don&#8217;t take out things that really do have value, you endanger the higher-end product.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that does make these limited edition products far less meaningful, because they have what are essentially arbitrary limitations. It&#8217;s not a problem unique to Ableton, either. And since their two major synths are already unbundled (Operator and Sampler), there wasn&#8217;t so much to remove.</p>
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