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	<title>Comments on: Monomes: New Model Pricing, DIYers Share Their Creations</title>
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		<title>By: Namirako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namirako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I am relatively new to digitally produced music and just bought a Pro tools m-box 2 bundle. I use Reason software a lot as well. I have just discovered this amazing instrument while watching Trent Reznor play around on a video. If i am understanding this right, there are endless possibilities with the Monome. What software can i use and how does the monome recognize the software? And one more thing. If this instrument is as important to live performance via midi information, such as in electronic music, then why hasn't a larger manufacturing company picked up on it? How long will it be produced in such small quantities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I am relatively new to digitally produced music and just bought a Pro tools m-box 2 bundle. I use Reason software a lot as well. I have just discovered this amazing instrument while watching Trent Reznor play around on a video. If i am understanding this right, there are endless possibilities with the Monome. What software can i use and how does the monome recognize the software? And one more thing. If this instrument is as important to live performance via midi information, such as in electronic music, then why hasn&#8217;t a larger manufacturing company picked up on it? How long will it be produced in such small quantities?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, that's mostly a demonstration of the lights, not the function of the Monome. There are some really good illustrations, though, of the potential range of the device. Check monome.org. Hope to have some more here on CDM, as well.

It's really a blank slate, so there's a range of what's possible here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, that&#8217;s mostly a demonstration of the lights, not the function of the Monome. There are some really good illustrations, though, of the potential range of the device. Check monome.org. Hope to have some more here on CDM, as well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a blank slate, so there&#8217;s a range of what&#8217;s possible here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Dri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats actually happening in that video? Obviously the patterns on the Monome relate to the sound but whats doing what? Without an explanation it simply looks like an expensive Winamp plugin :P How is it "triggering"? Thinking for potential to do some great interaction live with acid/303 riffs here, but whats the software side of things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats actually happening in that video? Obviously the patterns on the Monome relate to the sound but whats doing what? Without an explanation it simply looks like an expensive Winamp plugin :P How is it &#8220;triggering&#8221;? Thinking for potential to do some great interaction live with acid/303 riffs here, but whats the software side of things?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Ridiculously priced"? Yes. But you've got it backwards.

Those computers are so cheap because they're produced in unbelievably huge quantities. And much as I enjoy and advocate the latest and greatest, part of that is possible only because people treat computers as disposable. Production is also very often unsustainable, in terms of the environmental impact it has and the way materials are sourced and transported. That's not just a pro-environment argument: I think there's a good chance this will prove *literally* unsustainable.

I'm not saying don't buy the computer, or that the Monome, which by definition is produced in small quantities, will change the system. But it's a reminder of the economic reasons we have these price disparities.

One thing I can't explain: why certain lower-quality, plastic-y controllers actually cost *more* than Monome. ;)

Anyway, if $450 is too steep, do what a lot of us are doing and get the kit for half the price. You'll still wind up out a few hundred by the time you're finished with manufacture -- but on the other hand, you'll have a one-of-a-kind item.

Also, you know we're absolutely advocates of super-cheap solutions -- see Michael's &lt;a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/02/get-loopy-with-the-diy-10-ableton-footcontroller-no-soldering-required/" rel="nofollow"&gt;$10 foot controller&lt;/a&gt;. So don't get me wrong: if you don't have the money to spend $450 on a Monome, get the $100 device, the $10 device, whatever gets you making music. We don't *need* any of this stuff. But whatever you spend, I'm all for getting something that is meaningful and doesn't feel disposable. That could be the rescued $10 QWERTY foot controller, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ridiculously priced&#8221;? Yes. But you&#8217;ve got it backwards.</p>
<p>Those computers are so cheap because they&#8217;re produced in unbelievably huge quantities. And much as I enjoy and advocate the latest and greatest, part of that is possible only because people treat computers as disposable. Production is also very often unsustainable, in terms of the environmental impact it has and the way materials are sourced and transported. That&#8217;s not just a pro-environment argument: I think there&#8217;s a good chance this will prove *literally* unsustainable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying don&#8217;t buy the computer, or that the Monome, which by definition is produced in small quantities, will change the system. But it&#8217;s a reminder of the economic reasons we have these price disparities.</p>
<p>One thing I can&#8217;t explain: why certain lower-quality, plastic-y controllers actually cost *more* than Monome. ;)</p>
<p>Anyway, if $450 is too steep, do what a lot of us are doing and get the kit for half the price. You&#8217;ll still wind up out a few hundred by the time you&#8217;re finished with manufacture &#8212; but on the other hand, you&#8217;ll have a one-of-a-kind item.</p>
<p>Also, you know we&#8217;re absolutely advocates of super-cheap solutions &#8212; see Michael&#8217;s <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/02/get-loopy-with-the-diy-10-ableton-footcontroller-no-soldering-required/" rel="nofollow">$10 foot controller</a>. So don&#8217;t get me wrong: if you don&#8217;t have the money to spend $450 on a Monome, get the $100 device, the $10 device, whatever gets you making music. We don&#8217;t *need* any of this stuff. But whatever you spend, I&#8217;m all for getting something that is meaningful and doesn&#8217;t feel disposable. That could be the rescued $10 QWERTY foot controller, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or are these things ridiculously priced? I mean, for $450 you can almost by a new computer, with monitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or are these things ridiculously priced? I mean, for $450 you can almost by a new computer, with monitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m-.-n is trying to empty my credit cards. I was THIS close to getting a monome a few weeks ago, you bastard, and thought I had the compulsion nicked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m-.-n is trying to empty my credit cards. I was THIS close to getting a monome a few weeks ago, you bastard, and thought I had the compulsion nicked.</p>
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		<title>By: NineTailedFox</title>
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		<dc:creator>NineTailedFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm TOTALLY building my 4x32 strap-on monomitar, one day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m TOTALLY building my 4&#215;32 strap-on monomitar, one day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's not much soldering on the kit. The big job is the enclosure. 

M-.-n, unless GP2x supports serial over USB, I guess you'd need to add MIDI ports to make that self contained? Hmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not much soldering on the kit. The big job is the enclosure. </p>
<p>M-.-n, unless GP2x supports serial over USB, I guess you&#8217;d need to add MIDI ports to make that self contained? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the one twenty eight looks pretty sweet. I wish I had the attention span to solder things. Sadly I couldn't get write this comment without getting distracted at least couple of times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one twenty eight looks pretty sweet. I wish I had the attention span to solder things. Sadly I couldn&#8217;t get write this comment without getting distracted at least couple of times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M-.-n</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-.-n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having growing GAS for the monome. Wonder how cool it could be to have it coupled with a GP2x and littlegptracker for live mode performance....

so much possibilities.. I need 48h/day !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having growing GAS for the monome. Wonder how cool it could be to have it coupled with a GP2x and littlegptracker for live mode performance&#8230;.</p>
<p>so much possibilities.. I need 48h/day !</p>
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