Comments on: Random Rant: Daft Punk, Daft Plagiarists? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tiffani maies http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-978916 tiffani maies Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:46:00 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-978916 fuck negros. they all should die. fuck that stupid kanye west. all great things are done by whites. blacks are nothing but stupid pieces of shit. fuck negros. they all should die. fuck that stupid kanye west. all great things are done by whites. blacks are nothing but stupid pieces of shit.

]]> By: Mike http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-656064 Mike Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:34:21 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-656064 WELCOME TO THE ERA OF POSTMODERNISM. I can't believe all this B.S. you spit. Postmodernism. Learn about it. This is the what we live with. Every book is influenced by other books. Every song, evey movie. Have you ever noticed that you are speaking, and realize your words are part of a famous song?? Post-modernism. To a certain degree you are correct that using samples can be less talented. On the other hand. You cannot mandate that using samples is cheating. That is simply untrue. You can create something with samples that is much more skillfully done than the original. I would say everything on Discovery is done like that. The fact that you cannot distinguish between Homework, Discovery, and Human After All shows that you were never a reall hardcore Daft Punk fan. It is also sad that most people only know Daft Punk because of Kanye West. However, if you did examine Human After All, you might be able to determine that something is a bit off. The album took two weeks to make. It is not up to calibur. Hint: I believe it is Daft Punk's commentary on Post Modernism. They are working within post-modernism to comment on post-modernism. Yes it is Postmodern, but it is much much much more. Look, Listen, THINK FOR MORE THAN 5 F*CKING MINUTES. Kanye West in his lyrics, is not going AGAINST Daft Punk. But is actually making EXPLICIT what they have made IMPLICIT. DOES ANYBODY MAKE REAL SHIT ANYMORE?? NO!! ITS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE. Daft Punk has realized this. They have realized that a lot of this recursive modern art/music/literature/media is just "robot rock". My opinion of Human After All was originally "this sucks". I still don't think the music is that great, by itself. But it is not just music. It carries a message. Listen to that messaage. Jesus you people. WELCOME TO THE ERA OF POSTMODERNISM. I can’t believe all this B.S. you spit. Postmodernism. Learn about it. This is the what we live with. Every book is influenced by other books. Every song, evey movie. Have you ever noticed that you are speaking, and realize your words are part of a famous song?? Post-modernism. To a certain degree you are correct that using samples can be less talented. On the other hand. You cannot mandate that using samples is cheating. That is simply untrue. You can create something with samples that is much more skillfully done than the original. I would say everything on Discovery is done like that. The fact that you cannot distinguish between Homework, Discovery, and Human After All shows that you were never a reall hardcore Daft Punk fan. It is also sad that most people only know Daft Punk because of Kanye West. However, if you did examine Human After All, you might be able to determine that something is a bit off. The album took two weeks to make. It is not up to calibur. Hint: I believe it is Daft Punk’s commentary on Post Modernism. They are working within post-modernism to comment on post-modernism. Yes it is Postmodern, but it is much much much more. Look, Listen, THINK FOR MORE THAN 5 F*CKING MINUTES. Kanye West in his lyrics, is not going AGAINST Daft Punk. But is actually making EXPLICIT what they have made IMPLICIT. DOES ANYBODY MAKE REAL SHIT ANYMORE?? NO!! ITS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE. Daft Punk has realized this. They have realized that a lot of this recursive modern art/music/literature/media is just “robot rock”. My opinion of Human After All was originally “this sucks”. I still don’t think the music is that great, by itself. But it is not just music. It carries a message. Listen to that messaage. Jesus you people.

]]> By: porkchop http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-557568 porkchop Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:49:05 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-557568 wow, it would appear some of you feel rather strongly about this... i figure the whole argument is a moot point, especially considering you ALL probably stole the music you are arguing about. later wow, it would appear some of you feel rather strongly about this… i figure the whole argument is a moot point, especially considering you ALL probably stole the music you are arguing about.

later

]]> By: _ http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-499516 _ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:41:39 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-499516 Sampling is an art whether record companies and musicians believe it or not. Check out this artist’s tune. Recognize anything? This producer and DJ is a genius because he also comes up with his own synths and style with the sample/s which turns his tunes into something different. Check out the DJ/remix versions (they are FREE because they contain samples and it is simply to promote the artist which was sampled from): Tony Castanho – You Need Love (contains elements of “Modern Talking – SOS for love”) Tony Castanho – They in Love (contains elements of “Cliff Richard – Once upon a time”). Tony Castanho-Port Omega (contains elements of “The Pointer Sisters – Slow Hand”) http://www.myspace.com/tonycastanho Then go and listen to the originals. Sampling is an art whether record companies and musicians believe it or not.

Check out this artist’s tune. Recognize anything?

This producer and DJ is a genius because he also comes up with his own synths and style with the sample/s which turns his tunes into something different.

Check out the DJ/remix versions (they are FREE because they contain samples and it is simply to promote the artist which was sampled from):

Tony Castanho – You Need Love (contains elements of “Modern Talking – SOS for love”)
Tony Castanho – They in Love (contains elements of “Cliff Richard – Once upon a time”).
Tony Castanho-Port Omega (contains elements of “The Pointer Sisters – Slow Hand”)

http://www.myspace.com/tonycastanho

Then go and listen to the originals.

]]> By: Tristan http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-377788 Tristan Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:56:29 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-377788 In any art form, the ONLY important thing is the communication of emotion. All this snobby crap about what counts as cheating and what counts as real or ripped off art is irrellivant. 1. Daft punk only use samples in about maybe 5 percent of their work. Everything else is studio made. 2. The samples are NOT like P.diddy because he would just take the whole song and put it with a drum beat. 3. And most importantly, I went and saw them at the LA Sports Arena. What I saw was Music and art effecting people in a way where everyone was Dancing and feeling good about human. In other words: making the world just a little bit better. That is why I like Daft Punk. They achieved something I as an artist try to acheive. Bring people together. In any art form, the ONLY important thing is the communication of emotion. All this snobby crap about what counts as cheating and what counts as real or ripped off art is irrellivant.

1. Daft punk only use samples in about maybe 5 percent of their work. Everything else is studio made.

2. The samples are NOT like P.diddy because he would just take the whole song and put it with a drum beat.

3. And most importantly, I went and saw them at the LA Sports Arena. What I saw was Music and art effecting people in a way where everyone was Dancing and feeling good about human. In other words: making the world just a little bit better. That is why I like Daft Punk. They achieved something I as an artist try to acheive. Bring people together.

]]> By: One Way to Facilitate Meta Punk Exploration « Æther Tracker http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-377013 One Way to Facilitate Meta Punk Exploration « Æther Tracker Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:56:20 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-377013 [...] thanks to ex-Clash manager and artist Caroline Coon’s No-Future and Daft Punk’s fast and biting anti-daft aethersound, my initial doubts dispersed and Meta Punk turned out to be my new [...] [...] thanks to ex-Clash manager and artist Caroline Coon’s No-Future and Daft Punk’s fast and biting anti-daft aethersound, my initial doubts dispersed and Meta Punk turned out to be my new [...]

]]> By: HumanAfterAlive http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-376237 HumanAfterAlive Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:48:49 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-376237 Stop saying West sampled a sample,he f*cking didnt you morons! Its illegal to take a sample of a song that so blatantly takes elements of another song without listing BOTH songs creaters in the credits for the final article.HBFS lists Birdsong as one of the writers because they sampled Cola Bottle Baby...now keep up on this next part and maybe youll stop spouting horse sh*t about Stronger sampling a sample. West clearly took a sample of the accapella of HBFS for his track so he had to list the creators of the song,which was listed in the liner notes of Discovery as Bangalter Homem-Christo and Birdsong. THATS why Birdsong is listed as one of the creators of Stronger, because the song West sampled had sampled another song, even though none of Cola Bottle Baby was actually sampled for Stronger. Understand, peabrains? Stop saying West sampled a sample,he f*cking didnt you morons! Its illegal to take a sample of a song that so blatantly takes elements of another song without listing BOTH songs creaters in the credits for the final article.HBFS lists Birdsong as one of the writers because they sampled Cola Bottle Baby…now keep up on this next part and maybe youll stop spouting horse sh*t about Stronger sampling a sample. West clearly took a sample of the accapella of HBFS for his track so he had to list the creators of the song,which was listed in the liner notes of Discovery as Bangalter Homem-Christo and Birdsong. THATS why Birdsong is listed as one of the creators of Stronger, because the song West sampled had sampled another song, even though none of Cola Bottle Baby was actually sampled for Stronger. Understand, peabrains?

]]> By: liz revision » Daft Punk: Daft Plagiarists? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-372528 liz revision » Daft Punk: Daft Plagiarists? Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:31:39 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-372528 [...] So have a read of my rant, and feel free to join in the following discussion: Random Rant: Daft Punk: Daft Plagiarists? [...] [...] So have a read of my rant, and feel free to join in the following discussion: Random Rant: Daft Punk: Daft Plagiarists? [...]

]]> By: DesLennis http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-337761 DesLennis Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:54:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-337761 Think PWEI said it best: Sample It, Loop It, Fuck It, Eat It, then Spit It Out! Think PWEI said it best:

Sample It, Loop It, Fuck It, Eat It, then Spit It Out!

]]> By: Royalsteven http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/comment-page-3/#comment-332984 Royalsteven Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:51:34 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#comment-332984 I also think sometimes the great rap and dance artists i listen to are cheating. But there's a big difference between a DJ shadow beat and a lil jon beat. The true art of sampling is finding the right sample and building your music around it. 99% of dance music is about sampling. I respect those that use live instruments to create their music but that's rarely the case. I would feel uncomfortable by sampling because it's like stealing. The fact is 99% of the instrumental music you create is stolen. The beats, hooks and drums from a music program or a sample from a sample-cd are made by programmers so what do you mean with original? Those that sample have to do it well. And daft punk does it very well. Ofcourse it's 50% music and 50% hype but that's what all popular music is about. Sampling is hot or not since about 1989 (De la souls' 3 feet high and rising) so there will always be discussions about it. I guess some producers might be considered lazy by repeating the same trick over and over again. Some are artists because of it. Sampling is ok, unless it is mixed with variëty. I also think sometimes the great rap and dance artists i listen to are cheating. But there’s a big difference between a DJ shadow beat and a lil jon beat. The true art of sampling is finding the right sample and building your music around it. 99% of dance music is about sampling. I respect those that use live instruments to create their music but that’s rarely the case. I would feel uncomfortable by sampling because it’s like stealing. The fact is 99% of the instrumental music you create is stolen. The beats, hooks and drums from a music program or a sample from a sample-cd are made by programmers so what do you mean with original? Those that sample have to do it well. And daft punk does it very well. Ofcourse it’s 50% music and 50% hype but that’s what all popular music is about. Sampling is hot or not since about 1989 (De la souls’ 3 feet high and rising) so there will always be discussions about it. I guess some producers might be considered lazy by repeating the same trick over and over again. Some are artists because of it. Sampling is ok, unless it is mixed with variëty.

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