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	<title>Comments on: Tenori-On Review, Tenori-On Limitations, Tenori-On Fatigue?</title>
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		<title>By: Tenori-On</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-656998</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenori-On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the pros and cons here. There is also an excellent video presentation of the new instrument here. It does look great fun but the price of £599 will make you think a bit before taking the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jasonk</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-358298</link>
		<dc:creator>jasonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the points at the top of this article are inaccurate:

&lt;blockquote cite="TENORI-ON is truly set up to work as a 16×16 beat sequencer. You can have multiple 16-beat sequences, and you can change length, but the hardware-only approach means you’re given a pretty rigid musical structure."&gt;

The 16x16 grid is only the beginning. When you figure out how to use the "random" mode musically, there is no 16 beat limit within the layer, and the polyrhythmic cycles generated over many 16 step sequences from bounce mode make this far from limiting. You also have 16 blocks which can themselves be sequenced along with your unquantized solo parts. There are also ways to remove some other limitations built in.
You can also turn quantize off if you like.

&lt;blockquote cite="* MIDI output is limited to note information."&gt;

I believe there are also sysex messages sent, making this much more than a music device given proper translation. If you use your imagination, the Tenori-on could be much more than just a musical instrument. 

&lt;blockquote cite="The only non on/off controller is a roller on the bottom of the unit that affects note length."&gt;

Just about any realtime playback parameter that can be changed with the roller, can also be changed on the grid - just in bigger steps. This makes these buttons, formerly percieved as on/off controls for notes, function as a quick hands-on way to control things like layer volume, loop length, octave shift, and many more parameters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the points at the top of this article are inaccurate:</p>
<blockquote cite="TENORI-ON is truly set up to work as a 16×16 beat sequencer. You can have multiple 16-beat sequences, and you can change length, but the hardware-only approach means you’re given a pretty rigid musical structure.">
<p>The 16&#215;16 grid is only the beginning. When you figure out how to use the &#8220;random&#8221; mode musically, there is no 16 beat limit within the layer, and the polyrhythmic cycles generated over many 16 step sequences from bounce mode make this far from limiting. You also have 16 blocks which can themselves be sequenced along with your unquantized solo parts. There are also ways to remove some other limitations built in.<br />
You can also turn quantize off if you like.</p>
<blockquote cite="* MIDI output is limited to note information.">
<p>I believe there are also sysex messages sent, making this much more than a music device given proper translation. If you use your imagination, the Tenori-on could be much more than just a musical instrument. </p>
<blockquote cite="The only non on/off controller is a roller on the bottom of the unit that affects note length.">
<p>Just about any realtime playback parameter that can be changed with the roller, can also be changed on the grid - just in bigger steps. This makes these buttons, formerly percieved as on/off controls for notes, function as a quick hands-on way to control things like layer volume, loop length, octave shift, and many more parameters.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Tenori-On: Hands-on, Chat with Yamaha&#8217;s Yu Nishibori, on CNET</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-356466</link>
		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Tenori-On: Hands-on, Chat with Yamaha&#8217;s Yu Nishibori, on CNET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Previously: Free, All Tenori-On Album: A Chat with Norman Fairbanks Tenori-On Review, Tenori-On Limitations, Tenori-On Fatigue? &#8230; and CDM&#8217;s own hands-on, though it technically took place in the UK, not my home in New York, New York, USA: Hands On Tenori-On: Close Encounters of the Interactive Music Kind Yamaha TENORI-ON Launch: Photos, Videos, Interviews, Demos, Details, and a Music Box         Elsewhere: Throw Away Your Drums, Plus a Hands-On with eSession [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Previously: Free, All Tenori-On Album: A Chat with Norman Fairbanks Tenori-On Review, Tenori-On Limitations, Tenori-On Fatigue? &#8230; and CDM&#8217;s own hands-on, though it technically took place in the UK, not my home in New York, New York, USA: Hands On Tenori-On: Close Encounters of the Interactive Music Kind Yamaha TENORI-ON Launch: Photos, Videos, Interviews, Demos, Details, and a Music Box         Elsewhere: Throw Away Your Drums, Plus a Hands-On with eSession [...]</p>
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		<title>By: US PISSED</title>
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		<dc:creator>US PISSED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when I first saw this thing i was really excited I have been puttzingwith trying to design something like this.  I would be content with just owning one, but I live in the USA and I have to wait.  I have called several of the shops that have it in the UK and they just will not sell it to me.  I am so sad, but i guess its a good thing because when/if we get it here in the US its going to have more of the bugs worked out (hopefully)

has anyone heard more about a US time frame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I first saw this thing i was really excited I have been puttzingwith trying to design something like this.  I would be content with just owning one, but I live in the USA and I have to wait.  I have called several of the shops that have it in the UK and they just will not sell it to me.  I am so sad, but i guess its a good thing because when/if we get it here in the US its going to have more of the bugs worked out (hopefully)</p>
<p>has anyone heard more about a US time frame</p>
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		<title>By: glowMain :: música + electrónica + latinoamérica + en español &#187; TENORI-ON: yamaha`s nueva interfase</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-336312</link>
		<dc:creator>glowMain :: música + electrónica + latinoamérica + en español &#187; TENORI-ON: yamaha`s nueva interfase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mas Reviews por: WIRED on TENORI-ON DON`T PANIC con FRIENDLY FIRE CREATEDIGITALMUSIC review  MUSICTECHMAG review [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mas Reviews por: WIRED on TENORI-ON DON`T PANIC con FRIENDLY FIRE CREATEDIGITALMUSIC review  MUSICTECHMAG review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thopa</title>
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		<dc:creator>thopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the Tenori yesterday. It syncs to Abletons clock, and it send midi notes into ableton in the six different modes (score, random, bounce, push..)

I hope Yamaha update the O.S and make some improvements....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the Tenori yesterday. It syncs to Abletons clock, and it send midi notes into ableton in the six different modes (score, random, bounce, push..)</p>
<p>I hope Yamaha update the O.S and make some improvements&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: thopa</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-296975</link>
		<dc:creator>thopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

As Michael points out, I would also like to know if note pitch is transmitted.. Guess I'll find out this weekend and try it with ableton..figers crossed!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>As Michael points out, I would also like to know if note pitch is transmitted.. Guess I&#8217;ll find out this weekend and try it with ableton..figers crossed!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael (again)</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-288356</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael (again)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still not quite sure how well this thing works with Logic. What I really want to know is if Logic will be able to be steered as a complete 16 channel slave. In the review it looks like this shouldn't be a problem but I am just not sure if the Tenori-on only sends note on and note off commands or if it also sends note number comands on each channel (i.e. if it's all on C3 or if you can go up and down a few notes, at least the 16 steps that you can on the actual Tenori-on). I mean could you just link the Tenori-on to your DAW and play it exactly the same way as you would otherwise but with all the nice sounds coming from your DAW instead of the internal sounds and user samples? That would be all the extension I'd need for this to really be something for me. Any clue? Anybody?

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still not quite sure how well this thing works with Logic. What I really want to know is if Logic will be able to be steered as a complete 16 channel slave. In the review it looks like this shouldn&#8217;t be a problem but I am just not sure if the Tenori-on only sends note on and note off commands or if it also sends note number comands on each channel (i.e. if it&#8217;s all on C3 or if you can go up and down a few notes, at least the 16 steps that you can on the actual Tenori-on). I mean could you just link the Tenori-on to your DAW and play it exactly the same way as you would otherwise but with all the nice sounds coming from your DAW instead of the internal sounds and user samples? That would be all the extension I&#8217;d need for this to really be something for me. Any clue? Anybody?</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquins Musikblog</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/09/17/tenori-on-review-tenori-on-limitations-tenori-on-fatigue/#comment-288019</link>
		<dc:creator>Joaquins Musikblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yamaha Tenori-On...&lt;/strong&gt;

Das Yamaha Tenori-On ist ein neues und vielseitiges Musikwerkzeug, bzw. ein vollkommen neues Musikinstrument-Konzept. Auf den ersten Blick wirkt es recht futuristisch und man ist erstaunt, was dieses neue Gerät so alles kann und wenn man es in Action ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yamaha Tenori-On&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Das Yamaha Tenori-On ist ein neues und vielseitiges Musikwerkzeug, bzw. ein vollkommen neues Musikinstrument-Konzept. Auf den ersten Blick wirkt es recht futuristisch und man ist erstaunt, was dieses neue Gerät so alles kann und wenn man es in Action &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yamaha&#8217;s Tenori-On music maker !!! : EnGadGet and GadGet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yamaha&#8217;s Tenori-On music maker !!! : EnGadGet and GadGet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve had the Yamaha Tenori On for about five days now, so these are first thoughts. Summary version: It&#8217;s awesome that this thing exists, that Toshio Iwai got a chance to make it. It&#8217;s intuitive (in the pic on the right, Alex isn&#8217;t just jabbing buttons, he&#8217;s holding down a function key and selecting sounds). Does that mean you&#8217;ll want to spend £599 buying one for yourself? Well, I can think of better ways to spend the money. Epic list of pros and cons after the jump. I&#8217;d also recommend Sonic State&#8217;s video review if you want something more in-depth and less opinionated.  The good things: 1. It&#8217;s unique. Almost every part of it - the shape, the look, the interface, the sound - is unlike anything else I&#8217;ve ever seen. 2. It&#8217;s fantastic that Yamaha used a tiny slice of their profits from selling electric pianos and workstations to let Toshio Iwai get his dream manufactured and into the shops. Even if it&#8217;s only in a few record shops in Britain at the moment. It must have cost them a lot, and it&#8217;s the kind of thing that&#8217;s normally left to passionate enthusiasts. 3. It&#8217;s a complicated, sophisticated little machine. It&#8217;s self contained, with a real operating system, a detailed display and so on. I LOVE that it has batteries and speakers. It&#8217;s slightly unfair to compare it with the sexier, cheaper Monome, which is essentially a bunch of switches and lights in a pretty box, with all the heavy lifting done by the computer. 4. 16&#215;16 step sequencing is great - very fast, intuitive, fun way to enter beats and chords. 5. It uses a clever key/scale system, which makes it even easier to enter notes. You can really just doodle with your finger and make something which sounds roughly like music. 6. In the dark, it looks incredible. The lights on the back look ace. Play it in the evening near a window and watch the reflections. 7. Many of the sounds are great - there&#8217;s a definite Toshio Iwai sound, if you liked Elektroplankton, you&#8217;ll like these. Warm and organic and original. 8. It&#8217;s great while running on batteries - very compact, quick to load, nice to sit on the sofa and fiddle. The weight of 6xAA batteries also makes it feel a bit more sturdy. 9. Choosing presets with one key for each sound = Very nice. (I can see where Art Lebedev is coming from) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve had the Yamaha Tenori On for about five days now, so these are first thoughts. Summary version: It&#8217;s awesome that this thing exists, that Toshio Iwai got a chance to make it. It&#8217;s intuitive (in the pic on the right, Alex isn&#8217;t just jabbing buttons, he&#8217;s holding down a function key and selecting sounds). Does that mean you&#8217;ll want to spend £599 buying one for yourself? Well, I can think of better ways to spend the money. Epic list of pros and cons after the jump. I&#8217;d also recommend Sonic State&#8217;s video review if you want something more in-depth and less opinionated.  The good things: 1. It&#8217;s unique. Almost every part of it - the shape, the look, the interface, the sound - is unlike anything else I&#8217;ve ever seen. 2. It&#8217;s fantastic that Yamaha used a tiny slice of their profits from selling electric pianos and workstations to let Toshio Iwai get his dream manufactured and into the shops. Even if it&#8217;s only in a few record shops in Britain at the moment. It must have cost them a lot, and it&#8217;s the kind of thing that&#8217;s normally left to passionate enthusiasts. 3. It&#8217;s a complicated, sophisticated little machine. It&#8217;s self contained, with a real operating system, a detailed display and so on. I LOVE that it has batteries and speakers. It&#8217;s slightly unfair to compare it with the sexier, cheaper Monome, which is essentially a bunch of switches and lights in a pretty box, with all the heavy lifting done by the computer. 4. 16&#215;16 step sequencing is great - very fast, intuitive, fun way to enter beats and chords. 5. It uses a clever key/scale system, which makes it even easier to enter notes. You can really just doodle with your finger and make something which sounds roughly like music. 6. In the dark, it looks incredible. The lights on the back look ace. Play it in the evening near a window and watch the reflections. 7. Many of the sounds are great - there&#8217;s a definite Toshio Iwai sound, if you liked Elektroplankton, you&#8217;ll like these. Warm and organic and original. 8. It&#8217;s great while running on batteries - very compact, quick to load, nice to sit on the sofa and fiddle. The weight of 6xAA batteries also makes it feel a bit more sturdy. 9. Choosing presets with one key for each sound = Very nice. (I can see where Art Lebedev is coming from) [...]</p>
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