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		<title>By: pic tutorial</title>
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		<dc:creator>pic tutorial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] audio-toys and kids games to create weird new electronic musical instruments! With pics and videos!http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/10/13/want-to-get-started-circuit-bending/PIC TutorialYou do not even need a current limiting resistor between the pic pin and the FET. .... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] audio-toys and kids games to create weird new electronic musical instruments! With pics and videos!http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/10/13/want-to-get-started-circuit-bending/PIC TutorialYou do not even need a current limiting resistor between the pic pin and the FET. &#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scalar</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been feeling similar about some of the sameness sounds i get from bending. but i think thats missing the point about bending. its a very hands on thing, i think mentioned before. its more of the doing aspect than say using the sounds you get. but every once in a while i get something unexpected which makes it all worth while on the sound end of bending. something that sounds very much human or animal. and i record it and use it. i think there are other artists who do this very minimally and it works. same with noise compositions. 
the interesting or ironic thing to me is how some noise/experimental communities end up being exactly like the other end of the spectrum ie: they cannot stand sequenced pieces it gives them a headache. haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been feeling similar about some of the sameness sounds i get from bending. but i think thats missing the point about bending. its a very hands on thing, i think mentioned before. its more of the doing aspect than say using the sounds you get. but every once in a while i get something unexpected which makes it all worth while on the sound end of bending. something that sounds very much human or animal. and i record it and use it. i think there are other artists who do this very minimally and it works. same with noise compositions.<br />
the interesting or ironic thing to me is how some noise/experimental communities end up being exactly like the other end of the spectrum ie: they cannot stand sequenced pieces it gives them a headache. haha!</p>
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		<title>By: music &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Want to get started Circuit Bending?</title>
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		<dc:creator>music &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Want to get started Circuit Bending?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: foosnark</title>
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		<dc:creator>foosnark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so much into the crafty part of this as the pragmatic &quot;how can I use this in a track?&quot; aspect.  

But I do have one track that features an exotic &quot;horn&quot; part that came from a $5 toy keyboard that I opened up, replaced the speaker with a crudely wired phono jack, and laid a screwdriver across the circuit board while recording it.

I&#039;m more likely to mess with databending than I am to get out the soldering iron, just because it&#039;s something I can do while feeling lazy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so much into the crafty part of this as the pragmatic &#8220;how can I use this in a track?&#8221; aspect.  </p>
<p>But I do have one track that features an exotic &#8220;horn&#8221; part that came from a $5 toy keyboard that I opened up, replaced the speaker with a crudely wired phono jack, and laid a screwdriver across the circuit board while recording it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more likely to mess with databending than I am to get out the soldering iron, just because it&#8217;s something I can do while feeling lazy. :)</p>
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		<title>By: christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also have to agree about the usability of these sounds.  that&#039;s why i&#039;ve never gotten into the whole bent thing.  of course, in many ways i assume bending is like many other fun activities - fun to do, not so interesting to observe (or listen to).  

however, im a huge fan of eric persing&#039;s distored reality sample collections - if an instrument could be made that came with sounds like that, but generated not sampled so you could tweak parameters - that would be awesome.

i do have to relate this little story in defense against myself of bent sounds: i used to work for fast forward design (what line 6 was back when it was simply a software design house for digidesign and alesis).  on at least two occasions that i can clearly remember i walked past the desk of an engineer who had the guts of a keyboard or effects unit splayed open they were testing and remarked, &quot;wow, that&#039;s an awesome sound!&quot;  and invariably the engineer would look up with a puzzled countenance and say, &quot;it&#039;s not supposed to be doing that.&quot;  

i always got a kick out of that.  those units never sounded so interesting as when they were malfunctioning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also have to agree about the usability of these sounds.  that&#8217;s why i&#8217;ve never gotten into the whole bent thing.  of course, in many ways i assume bending is like many other fun activities &#8211; fun to do, not so interesting to observe (or listen to).  </p>
<p>however, im a huge fan of eric persing&#8217;s distored reality sample collections &#8211; if an instrument could be made that came with sounds like that, but generated not sampled so you could tweak parameters &#8211; that would be awesome.</p>
<p>i do have to relate this little story in defense against myself of bent sounds: i used to work for fast forward design (what line 6 was back when it was simply a software design house for digidesign and alesis).  on at least two occasions that i can clearly remember i walked past the desk of an engineer who had the guts of a keyboard or effects unit splayed open they were testing and remarked, &#8220;wow, that&#8217;s an awesome sound!&#8221;  and invariably the engineer would look up with a puzzled countenance and say, &#8220;it&#8217;s not supposed to be doing that.&#8221;  </p>
<p>i always got a kick out of that.  those units never sounded so interesting as when they were malfunctioning!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, a little healthy skepticism is cool, especially since we tend to cover bits of everything on CDM. If my studio had the contents of this site, it&#039;d be a little hard to move. 

I have similar musical skepticism, just about how to fit this stuff into my musical style, but that&#039;s all the more reason I&#039;ll be taking up this challenge and seeing how it goes! I may do an experiment first ... maybe not just a one-day affair. I&#039;ll report back. Mike actually has more experience than I do on this front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, a little healthy skepticism is cool, especially since we tend to cover bits of everything on CDM. If my studio had the contents of this site, it&#8217;d be a little hard to move. </p>
<p>I have similar musical skepticism, just about how to fit this stuff into my musical style, but that&#8217;s all the more reason I&#8217;ll be taking up this challenge and seeing how it goes! I may do an experiment first &#8230; maybe not just a one-day affair. I&#8217;ll report back. Mike actually has more experience than I do on this front.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Una</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Una</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries, dead_red_eyes or anyone else.

These are all valid criticisms that have been raised against the prevailing circuit-bending aesthetic before, and I would tend to agree with most of them.  Obviously, it&#039;s not for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, dead_red_eyes or anyone else.</p>
<p>These are all valid criticisms that have been raised against the prevailing circuit-bending aesthetic before, and I would tend to agree with most of them.  Obviously, it&#8217;s not for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: dead_red_eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>dead_red_eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cripes Michael, I didn&#039;t mean to come in a piss on your article ... which was great by the way. I was just voicing my opinion on bent instruments. It certainly is fun to do, as I just recently went to a friends house who bent some things. It was cool to watch for sure. 

I&#039;ve heard the same thing Steve, about bending/modding those cheap Behringer pedals for some cool and unique results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cripes Michael, I didn&#8217;t mean to come in a piss on your article &#8230; which was great by the way. I was just voicing my opinion on bent instruments. It certainly is fun to do, as I just recently went to a friends house who bent some things. It was cool to watch for sure. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard the same thing Steve, about bending/modding those cheap Behringer pedals for some cool and unique results.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wouldnâ€™t want those laying around my precious studio!&quot;

Vanity! thy name is eden! :P

There can be a perverse pleasure in simply making something as innocuous as a child&#039;s toy into something that emits horribly unpleasant sounds. And some folk have turned the circuit-bending concept into an integral, visual/performance part of their art. Like the stuff Khate does:

http://www.khate.org/bent/

Personally, I don&#039;t find the aesthetics of circuit bent toys suit my general intentions. I lean towards pragmatic austerity, the giddy technicolour angle that toys carry just doesn&#039;t jibe with that. But I&#039;ve bent some of those cheapie Behringer pedals to reasonably good effect (they sound like junk unbent, I think the bending actually makes them usable).

A guitar can sound like crap when used by folks inexperienced with it, bent things just need a little finessing to suit musical applications. Think about all those dreadful synth demos on Youtube, after a while it seems like bad, derivative acid or squeakfart beepbooping is all synths can do, which I hope isn&#039;t the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wouldnâ€™t want those laying around my precious studio!&#8221;</p>
<p>Vanity! thy name is eden! :P</p>
<p>There can be a perverse pleasure in simply making something as innocuous as a child&#8217;s toy into something that emits horribly unpleasant sounds. And some folk have turned the circuit-bending concept into an integral, visual/performance part of their art. Like the stuff Khate does:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.khate.org/bent/" rel="nofollow">http://www.khate.org/bent/</a></p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t find the aesthetics of circuit bent toys suit my general intentions. I lean towards pragmatic austerity, the giddy technicolour angle that toys carry just doesn&#8217;t jibe with that. But I&#8217;ve bent some of those cheapie Behringer pedals to reasonably good effect (they sound like junk unbent, I think the bending actually makes them usable).</p>
<p>A guitar can sound like crap when used by folks inexperienced with it, bent things just need a little finessing to suit musical applications. Think about all those dreadful synth demos on Youtube, after a while it seems like bad, derivative acid or squeakfart beepbooping is all synths can do, which I hope isn&#8217;t the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Una</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Una</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are all valid points- I also have little patience for &quot;all noise&quot; bands and compositions.

That said, a few points to consider:

The skills involved in circuit bending are directly transferable to other electronic projects- building a stomp box, repairing a synth, or tweaking your mic preamp.

For many people, it&#039;s the first step they take into the world of electronics, and for good reason- it&#039;s very satisfying to solder a few connections and hear the sounds change so drastically.

So there&#039;s a sense of accomplishment, and also a curiosity that becomes awakened.  

Why does it do that?  What is the function of all these little electronic parts?  What else can I make it do?

And also, it&#039;s fun.  Don&#039;t forget that.

I&#039;m not asking you to replace your DAW or your Fender Rhodes, I&#039;m suggesting that you try something you&#039;ll probably enjoy and learn a little bit in the process about how and why digital music works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all valid points- I also have little patience for &#8220;all noise&#8221; bands and compositions.</p>
<p>That said, a few points to consider:</p>
<p>The skills involved in circuit bending are directly transferable to other electronic projects- building a stomp box, repairing a synth, or tweaking your mic preamp.</p>
<p>For many people, it&#8217;s the first step they take into the world of electronics, and for good reason- it&#8217;s very satisfying to solder a few connections and hear the sounds change so drastically.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s a sense of accomplishment, and also a curiosity that becomes awakened.  </p>
<p>Why does it do that?  What is the function of all these little electronic parts?  What else can I make it do?</p>
<p>And also, it&#8217;s fun.  Don&#8217;t forget that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking you to replace your DAW or your Fender Rhodes, I&#8217;m suggesting that you try something you&#8217;ll probably enjoy and learn a little bit in the process about how and why digital music works.</p>
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