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	<title>Comments on: Reznor, Saul Williams One-Up Radiohead with Free Album</title>
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		<title>By: Synthblogg 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ã„ntligen nÃ¥gra som fÃ¶rstÃ¥r</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synthblogg 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ã„ntligen nÃ¥gra som fÃ¶rstÃ¥r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LÃ¤s mer pÃ¥ Create Digital Music, eller gÃ¥ direkt till skivans egen site och lÃ¤gg en bestÃ¤llning. Du har tvÃ¥ prisnivÃ¥er att vÃ¤lja pÃ¥. FÃ¶r den lagom summan noll kronor fÃ¥r du ladda ner en mp3-version kodad i 192 kbit/s, och fÃ¶r den extremt facila summan 5 amerikanska lire sÃ¥ fÃ¥r du dessutom vÃ¤lja pÃ¥ en fetare mp3-version, eller en ofÃ¶rstÃ¶rd FLAC. VarsÃ¥god och skÃ¶lj. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LÃ¤s mer pÃ¥ Create Digital Music, eller gÃ¥ direkt till skivans egen site och lÃ¤gg en bestÃ¤llning. Du har tvÃ¥ prisnivÃ¥er att vÃ¤lja pÃ¥. FÃ¶r den lagom summan noll kronor fÃ¥r du ladda ner en mp3-version kodad i 192 kbit/s, och fÃ¶r den extremt facila summan 5 amerikanska lire sÃ¥ fÃ¥r du dessutom vÃ¤lja pÃ¥ en fetare mp3-version, eller en ofÃ¶rstÃ¶rd FLAC. VarsÃ¥god och skÃ¶lj. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since there are a number of links to free music here, I figured I&#039;d chime in.

Back in the 90&#039;s I was downloading (painfully slowly) electronic music from Kosmic Music Foundation, a group of artists who offered up their music for free download.  This was a little before sites like MP3.com came along.  If you were into electronica, this was the site.  They have an archive up, although there hasn&#039;t been any new music in a few years.

http://www.kosmic.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since there are a number of links to free music here, I figured I&#8217;d chime in.</p>
<p>Back in the 90&#8217;s I was downloading (painfully slowly) electronic music from Kosmic Music Foundation, a group of artists who offered up their music for free download.  This was a little before sites like MP3.com came along.  If you were into electronica, this was the site.  They have an archive up, although there hasn&#8217;t been any new music in a few years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kosmic.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kosmic.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s been mentioned yet, but in related news:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/trent_reznor_and_saul_williams.html

&quot;&lt;b&gt;What do you think about OiNK being shut down?&lt;/b&gt;
Trent: I&#039;ll admit I had an account there and frequented it quite often. At the end of the day, what made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world&#039;s greatest record store. Pretty much anything you could ever imagine, it was there, and it was there in the format you wanted. If OiNK cost anything, I would certainly have paid, but there isn&#039;t the equivalent of that in the retail space right now. iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don&#039;t feel cool when I go there. I&#039;m tired of seeing John Mayer&#039;s face pop up. I feel like I&#039;m being hustled when I visit there, and I don&#039;t think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc. Amazon has potential, but none of them get around the issue of pre-release leaks. And that&#039;s what&#039;s such a difficult puzzle at the moment. If your favorite band in the world has a leaked record out, do you listen to it or do you not listen to it? People on those boards, they&#039;re grateful for the person that uploaded it â€” they&#039;re the hero. They&#039;re not stealing it because they&#039;re going to make money off of it; they&#039;re stealing it because they love the band. I&#039;m not saying that I think OiNK is morally correct, but I do know that it existed because it filled a void of what people want.&quot;

Also, the rest of it is quite the interesting read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s been mentioned yet, but in related news:<br />
<a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/trent_reznor_and_saul_williams.html" rel="nofollow">http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/trent_reznor_and_saul_williams.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;<b>What do you think about OiNK being shut down?</b><br />
Trent: I&#8217;ll admit I had an account there and frequented it quite often. At the end of the day, what made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world&#8217;s greatest record store. Pretty much anything you could ever imagine, it was there, and it was there in the format you wanted. If OiNK cost anything, I would certainly have paid, but there isn&#8217;t the equivalent of that in the retail space right now. iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don&#8217;t feel cool when I go there. I&#8217;m tired of seeing John Mayer&#8217;s face pop up. I feel like I&#8217;m being hustled when I visit there, and I don&#8217;t think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc. Amazon has potential, but none of them get around the issue of pre-release leaks. And that&#8217;s what&#8217;s such a difficult puzzle at the moment. If your favorite band in the world has a leaked record out, do you listen to it or do you not listen to it? People on those boards, they&#8217;re grateful for the person that uploaded it â€” they&#8217;re the hero. They&#8217;re not stealing it because they&#8217;re going to make money off of it; they&#8217;re stealing it because they love the band. I&#8217;m not saying that I think OiNK is morally correct, but I do know that it existed because it filled a void of what people want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, the rest of it is quite the interesting read.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone mentioned Jane Siberry/Issa in all this?

http://www.sheeba.ca/store/letterSDP.php

She&#039;s had the pay-what-feels-good-to-you model in place for a while now (couple of years?).

No disrespect to Radiohead (i doubt they see what they&#039;re doing as iconoclastic) but they&#039;re certainly not the first major label act to go this route.

.g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone mentioned Jane Siberry/Issa in all this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sheeba.ca/store/letterSDP.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.sheeba.ca/store/letterSDP.php</a></p>
<p>She&#8217;s had the pay-what-feels-good-to-you model in place for a while now (couple of years?).</p>
<p>No disrespect to Radiohead (i doubt they see what they&#8217;re doing as iconoclastic) but they&#8217;re certainly not the first major label act to go this route.</p>
<p>.g</p>
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		<title>By: wak</title>
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		<dc:creator>wak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something pretty close to the whole netlabel thing started probably before MP3 went public already, with the music groups on the demo scene who started releasing modules (mod / s3m / xm / etc) from artists on the scene. 

I guess traditionally most of the groups released all sorts of stuff from demos and intros to music and computer gfx, but at some point music only groups like Mono (nowadays Mono211 / Monotonik the net label), KFMF, Phase Distortion, Radical Rhytms, Tokyo Dawn Records (still active as a net label), etc. started emerging. The modules circulated first by dialup BBS systems, mail swapping and whatnot, and moved to net.

Having been somewhat active on the scene, releasing on a few music groups and net labels, running one at some point and doing websites for a few more, I&#039;d wager that those scene music groups were actually where the whole net label thing started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something pretty close to the whole netlabel thing started probably before MP3 went public already, with the music groups on the demo scene who started releasing modules (mod / s3m / xm / etc) from artists on the scene. </p>
<p>I guess traditionally most of the groups released all sorts of stuff from demos and intros to music and computer gfx, but at some point music only groups like Mono (nowadays Mono211 / Monotonik the net label), KFMF, Phase Distortion, Radical Rhytms, Tokyo Dawn Records (still active as a net label), etc. started emerging. The modules circulated first by dialup BBS systems, mail swapping and whatnot, and moved to net.</p>
<p>Having been somewhat active on the scene, releasing on a few music groups and net labels, running one at some point and doing websites for a few more, I&#8217;d wager that those scene music groups were actually where the whole net label thing started.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kearney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you can compare this to netlabel giving away music for free as they are still trying to make a living from the music. They&#039;re just relying more on the goodwill of the people to make that happen than they did before.

The whole netlabels thing has been going on for more than &quot;a little while&quot;.. I was listening to netlabels in 1998.. they were probably invented about 20 seconds after the invention of the mp3 in  1994 or whatever it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can compare this to netlabel giving away music for free as they are still trying to make a living from the music. They&#8217;re just relying more on the goodwill of the people to make that happen than they did before.</p>
<p>The whole netlabels thing has been going on for more than &#8220;a little while&#8221;.. I was listening to netlabels in 1998.. they were probably invented about 20 seconds after the invention of the mp3 in  1994 or whatever it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Handy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Handy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave: I haven&#039;t had any traditional distribution, so I have nothing for the second half of your question.  As for the &quot;why&quot;... well, exposure, and for people to have more to go on than just a couple of songs.  An alternative to airplay.  And the fact that I generally segue tracks with a wide range of &quot;feels&quot; into a continuous piece that I think is more engaging than any one track would be by itself, so I want people to have the opportunity to see if that enhances their experience like it does for me, without coughing up $$ and then resenting me for not playing their favorite style of music.

In a way, attention spans are like real estate now.  But I&#039;m shooting for finding an audience that has one, because a more fickle crowd wouldn&#039;t do me any good in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: I haven&#8217;t had any traditional distribution, so I have nothing for the second half of your question.  As for the &#8220;why&#8221;&#8230; well, exposure, and for people to have more to go on than just a couple of songs.  An alternative to airplay.  And the fact that I generally segue tracks with a wide range of &#8220;feels&#8221; into a continuous piece that I think is more engaging than any one track would be by itself, so I want people to have the opportunity to see if that enhances their experience like it does for me, without coughing up $$ and then resenting me for not playing their favorite style of music.</p>
<p>In a way, attention spans are like real estate now.  But I&#8217;m shooting for finding an audience that has one, because a more fickle crowd wouldn&#8217;t do me any good in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Dri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would personally enjoy it if people plugging their &quot;free&quot; albums shed a little light on their thoughts on the matter, why they are choosing to give it away and what experiences they might have had with traditional label distribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would personally enjoy it if people plugging their &#8220;free&#8221; albums shed a little light on their thoughts on the matter, why they are choosing to give it away and what experiences they might have had with traditional label distribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They got my 5 bucks.

People have been talking and talking about this shit for &lt;b&gt;years&lt;/b&gt; and now it is finally happening. Given that my favorite artist is the producer on this album, I jumped at the chance to support this.

I&#039;d like to find out exactly how much Radiohead get per retail CD, and give them 50p above that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got my 5 bucks.</p>
<p>People have been talking and talking about this shit for <b>years</b> and now it is finally happening. Given that my favorite artist is the producer on this album, I jumped at the chance to support this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to find out exactly how much Radiohead get per retail CD, and give them 50p above that.</p>
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		<title>By: mallyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>mallyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And yeah, I know our dollar is presently worthless&quot;

What do you mean?  It&#039;s worth the same as our Canadian dollar, you think those are worthless!?!? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yeah, I know our dollar is presently worthless&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you mean?  It&#8217;s worth the same as our Canadian dollar, you think those are worthless!?!? ;)</p>
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