Comments on: Windows Sound Glitches Explained, Plus Glitches and the Fight-or-Flight Response http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:02:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: CDB http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-350799 CDB Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:31:59 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-350799 Someone please help me with this absolute disaster. I recently bought a Dell Vostro 1400 with Vista. I operate Sonar 7 for most of my music work, including vocal recording. I get constant glitches when trying to play a Sonar file with even 2 tracks...an instrumental and a vocal. It glitches while I am recording, which destroys any vocal takes. I don't know what to do. I use a US-122 Tascam mic pre-amp. Specs: Vostro 1400, Intel Core 2 Duo T5270, 1.4GHz, 800Mhz, 2M L2 Cache 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 DIMM 128MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS Graphics Card 160G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic thanks! Someone please help me with this absolute disaster. I recently bought a Dell Vostro 1400 with Vista. I operate Sonar 7 for most of my music work, including vocal recording. I get constant glitches when trying to play a Sonar file with even 2 tracks…an instrumental and a vocal. It glitches while I am recording, which destroys any vocal takes. I don’t know what to do. I use a US-122 Tascam mic pre-amp.

Specs:
Vostro 1400, Intel Core 2 Duo T5270, 1.4GHz, 800Mhz, 2M L2 Cache

2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 DIMM
128MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS Graphics Card
160G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic

thanks!

]]> By: jg http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302700 jg Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:38:22 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302700 "Vista might be glitchy and unstable for audio use"... YAY, I am going to run out and buy a copy RIGHT NOW!!!... oh, wait... “Vista might be glitchy and unstable for audio use”…

YAY, I am going to run out and buy a copy RIGHT NOW!!!…

oh, wait…

]]> By: Bill Ross http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302459 Bill Ross Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:23:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302459 Hi, Peter, Just thought I'd let you know that I posted something about the least technical bit (at least electronically speaking) in this post, about Ball passing along Osterman's observation on "why we’re so bothered by glitches." I'd had the same thought, along visual rather than auditory lines, and this became the perfect prod to write it up. Linked to you and this post, of course: http://rosswriting.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html ...but as you'll see, I agree with Damon, the last commenter, and went with a tiger over the bear -- much scarier, I thought, thus bringing the point home with more punch. I do some music, too, which we refer to as "world trance fusion," and did a CD of mostly drums, bells and percussion but with a half-dozen tracks based on or augmented with Performer and a Korg X5, & now on iTunes. (Ah, yes, all too familiar with the glitches; but usually worked it out by trimming the number of simultaneous notes.) http://rosswriting.com/warblehead ...although I got here looking for something else. Nothing like the Web for serendipity, hm? Hi, Peter,

Just thought I’d let you know that I posted something about the least technical bit (at least electronically speaking) in this post, about Ball passing along Osterman’s observation on “why we’re so bothered by glitches.”

I’d had the same thought, along visual rather than auditory lines, and this became the perfect prod to write it up. Linked to you and this post, of course:
http://rosswriting.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

…but as you’ll see, I agree with Damon, the last commenter, and went with a tiger over the bear — much scarier, I thought, thus bringing the point home with more punch.

I do some music, too, which we refer to as “world trance fusion,” and did a CD of mostly drums, bells and percussion but with a half-dozen tracks based on or augmented with Performer and a Korg X5, & now on iTunes. (Ah, yes, all too familiar with the glitches; but usually worked it out by trimming the number of simultaneous notes.)
http://rosswriting.com/warblehead

…although I got here looking for something else. Nothing like the Web for serendipity, hm?

]]> By: Damon http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302038 Damon Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:15:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-302038 Gratuitous bear shots. Highly unprofessional. Got any cougar or ocelot shots? Gratuitous bear shots. Highly unprofessional. Got any cougar or ocelot shots?

]]> By: Vista Audio Drivers Slowly Improving http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-301315 Vista Audio Drivers Slowly Improving Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:48:38 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-301315 [...] Peter Kirn at CDM notes that dodgy video drivers (for his NVIDIA card) caused great problems with his Vista audio. However, a video driver update fixed all this and everything now works swimmingly. He also links to a useful Vista blog post about audio glitching. [...] [...] Peter Kirn at CDM notes that dodgy video drivers (for his NVIDIA card) caused great problems with his Vista audio. However, a video driver update fixed all this and everything now works swimmingly. He also links to a useful Vista blog post about audio glitching. [...]

]]> By: poopoo http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300959 poopoo Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:56:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300959 How about a pre-emptive kernel? That would solve almost all the problems mentioned in the article. However I don't think the problems mentioned are the real issues here. After all, the examples given (cpu starvation etc.) should occur in all non-pre-emptive kernels such as XP. I think the real problem is flawed design in the Vista code. The article links a second article about the "discovery" of problems with "Multimedia Class Scheduler Service (MMCSS), a feature new to Windows Vista". How many more "discoveries" are waiting to be made? How about a pre-emptive kernel? That would solve almost all the problems mentioned in the article. However I don’t think the problems mentioned are the real issues here. After all, the examples given (cpu starvation etc.) should occur in all non-pre-emptive kernels such as XP.

I think the real problem is flawed design in the Vista code. The article links a second article about the “discovery” of problems with “Multimedia Class Scheduler Service (MMCSS), a feature new to Windows Vista”. How many more “discoveries” are waiting to be made?

]]> By: flip http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300165 flip Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:16:11 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300165 I think almost any mammal has a fear of sudden or unexplained audio. I have a cat that kept biting me when I was recording some overtones produced by wine glasses. Said cat wouldn't leave me alone till I blasted him with a recording of lightning & thunder. He stayed in the other room under the bed for the rest of the session. I know it sounds cruel, but you should have seen the bite marks! I think almost any mammal has a fear of sudden or unexplained audio. I have a cat that kept biting me when I was recording some overtones produced by wine glasses. Said cat wouldn’t leave me alone till I blasted him with a recording of lightning & thunder. He stayed in the other room under the bed for the rest of the session. I know it sounds cruel, but you should have seen the bite marks!

]]> By: kelly http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300131 kelly Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:20:19 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-300131 http://celibacyclub.com/wip/vista-space.jpg http://celibacyclub.com/wip/vista-space.jpg

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-299674 Peter Kirn Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:45:46 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-299674 I've heard glitches of various timbres; I'll say that. Most of them sound more broadband than high-frequency to me. I think the thing is, any sound that's not expected/part of the material can be disruptive. I'm not sure it has to be high-frequency to be annoying (see: surround sound screwups where you get low-freq boom). I’ve heard glitches of various timbres; I’ll say that. Most of them sound more broadband than high-frequency to me. I think the thing is, any sound that’s not expected/part of the material can be disruptive. I’m not sure it has to be high-frequency to be annoying (see: surround sound screwups where you get low-freq boom).

]]> By: james http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-299579 james Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:18:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/11/02/windows-sound-glitches-explained-plus-glitches-and-the-fight-or-flight-response/#comment-299579 dropouts might be a section of silence but at the beginning and end of that silence there'll be a sharp transient. now my understanding of ffts etc is pretty weak but wouldn't a sharp transient contain lots of high frequencies? or at least lots of frequencies? nitpicking, sorry. dropouts might be a section of silence but at the beginning and end of that silence there’ll be a sharp transient. now my understanding of ffts etc is pretty weak but wouldn’t a sharp transient contain lots of high frequencies? or at least lots of frequencies? nitpicking, sorry.

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