Comments on: Ableton Live 7 Preview on Beatportal, and How Much Slice to MIDI Rocks

By: Maxim

Maxim — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:51:32 +0000

Russian version of this Preview

Для тех кому тяжко по английски =)

http://maxim-dj.livejournal.com/20584.html

By: Dj_Don Admir

Dj_Don Admir — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:07:59 +0000

hey ppl i love this programe ill be casting out my album soon and all the thx to Ableton live

By: badburt

badburt — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:22:24 +0000

Well, yes…and no. My method for beat slicing in Live is completely different but more intuitive and will, some of the time at least, give for more natural sounding results. My experience with beat slicing and resultant midi playback has always seemed to give results that sound too contrived, to my ears at least.
I’m not doubting that this is a fantastic new feature for Live but merely pointing out that it is such a fantastically flexible program that it can be used in a wide variety of ways.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:44:29 +0000

badburt, what you’re doing sounds interesting but not the same as what we’re talking about here, if I understand correctly?

By: badburt

badburt — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:28:02 +0000

I hate to say it, believe me I do because Live is all I use to make music, but…so what?
I’ve been doing this in Live for years now, albeit in a more painstaking, non-automated way.
All you have to do is carefully position the beat markers in your sample and then move either the start position marker or end loop point marker about as you record the song. You can also shorten the start and end loop points and drag loop section about as you record. Ok the results can be a bit hit and miss but it sounds far more fluid and naturalistic than trying to play the beat back through midi. Try it!

By: Dave Dri

Dave Dri — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:19:45 +0000

The talk of “ripping off” is a bit silly. I use the “16 slice” function in my MPC a great deal. I think i can let the function name and the fact im posting here suggest what that function does in relation to this article. “Ripping off” is a silly suggestion. “Incporating successful features” is something all good audio apps should do.

To Lost… buy a new hat, your mind will be blowig repeatedly :P

By: Lost

Lost — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:28:36 +0000

But what, I must ask, would happen to a non-drum loop when sliced? Would it pick up rhythms in the waveform? Or just not work? If it does work I foresee it blowing my mind repeatedly.

By: kelly

kelly — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:28:11 +0000

this kind of thing has been missing from live for too long. as a FL user, its nice to see this in live, as its something i really miss when using it.

now if only live would rip off FL’s piano roll.

By: Phyllis Stein

Phyllis Stein — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:19:23 +0000

Good thing ACID’s not all that popular anymore or we’d have to hear about Live ripping off real-time time stretching. Jeez.

And that MIDI sequencing thing? Oh how Ableton has ripped off Roland’s classic MSQ-700.

THIEVES, I SAY! ;)

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:35:52 +0000

It’s interesting that these comparisons to other programs keep coming up. I have already heard specific instances of people combining Live 7 with GURU, SONAR 7, FL Studio, or Reason. They wouldn’t do that if these tools weren’t differentiated in some way. I think it’s easy to get into tool overkill, but it means even if you choose just *one* of these, you’re choosing a unique way of doing things, not something that’s been directly ripped off. Once you see the specific implementation here, the integration with the Live paradigm, whether you like the results or not, I think you would see something different about Live.