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	<title>Comments on: Leopard: Incompatibilities with JACK, Soundflower; Finder Audio Previews</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gray</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-352094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke incorrectly above, its APPLE-Y.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke incorrectly above, its APPLE-Y.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gray</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-352088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use APPLE-K and/or space bar to bring up quick look, which will do what you like in a nice temporary interface, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use APPLE-K and/or space bar to bring up quick look, which will do what you like in a nice temporary interface, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ massive</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-341694</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ massive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you can preview two things at the same time with the new AudioFinder.  Check out the sync play buttons option.  It lets you open multiple sounds and play them all at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you can preview two things at the same time with the new AudioFinder.  Check out the sync play buttons option.  It lets you open multiple sounds and play them all at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340542</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: ha! Well, this is the nature of the Web, though, which is we get stuff out there and get more information.

As for the preview thing, you CAN still compare two files with two open windows. You just can't adjust volume/scrub when you do it.

I actually think the bigger improvement would be to be able to have multiple QuickLook windows open. But because the other functionality is there, this may not be such a deal killer. I do hear the issue about little annoyances. "Look before you Leopard" is right -- just make sure it's worth doing. If you're happy with Tiger, great. If you're happier with Leopard, just double-check what you're getting into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: ha! Well, this is the nature of the Web, though, which is we get stuff out there and get more information.</p>
<p>As for the preview thing, you CAN still compare two files with two open windows. You just can&#8217;t adjust volume/scrub when you do it.</p>
<p>I actually think the bigger improvement would be to be able to have multiple QuickLook windows open. But because the other functionality is there, this may not be such a deal killer. I do hear the issue about little annoyances. &#8220;Look before you Leopard&#8221; is right &#8212; just make sure it&#8217;s worth doing. If you&#8217;re happy with Tiger, great. If you&#8217;re happier with Leopard, just double-check what you&#8217;re getting into.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Davis</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340518</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh Peter. maybe that will teach you to treat things i say as only potentially true :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh Peter. maybe that will teach you to treat things i say as only potentially true :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Letz</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340500</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Letz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to precise some points that where explained in the different answers:

- SoundFlower is actually a "kernel space" driver that is somewhat much more easier to develop and maintain

- Apple SDK is definitively a step forward to develop more compliant "user-space" drivers, even if mastering the new code layering takes some time...

- as Dan said, the new version is almost ready and should be more compliant (more application working correctly with it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to precise some points that where explained in the different answers:</p>
<p>- SoundFlower is actually a &#8220;kernel space&#8221; driver that is somewhat much more easier to develop and maintain</p>
<p>- Apple SDK is definitively a step forward to develop more compliant &#8220;user-space&#8221; drivers, even if mastering the new code layering takes some time&#8230;</p>
<p>- as Dan said, the new version is almost ready and should be more compliant (more application working correctly with it)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Nigrin</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340490</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Nigrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter - Stephane Letz can post more of the details of the challenge in getting Jack OS X working again, but suffice it to say that his persistence is already paying off; a beta version is available at:

http://www.grame.fr/~letz/JackOSX.0.75b11.pkg.zip

I suggest interested users sign up for the Jack OS X Yahoo group to stay abreast of changes and progress:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jackosx/join

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter - Stephane Letz can post more of the details of the challenge in getting Jack OS X working again, but suffice it to say that his persistence is already paying off; a beta version is available at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.grame.fr/~letz/JackOSX.0.75b11.pkg.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.grame.fr/~letz/JackOSX.0.75b11.pkg.zip</a></p>
<p>I suggest interested users sign up for the Jack OS X Yahoo group to stay abreast of changes and progress:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jackosx/join" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jackosx/join</a></p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: samu</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340486</link>
		<dc:creator>samu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesson learned; look before you Leopard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesson learned; look before you Leopard.</p>
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		<title>By: gola</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340465</link>
		<dc:creator>gola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A problem with loosing the old preview function in column view is also that it is no longer possible to quickly check two sounds up against eachother. Before you could have two Finder windows running two sounds at the same time (and also adjust the volume of them separately). Neither Quicklook nor Audiofinder can do this easily. 

Very annoying. I suspect the change is just cosmetic as well.... just to make it look more "clean" without the scrub-bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem with loosing the old preview function in column view is also that it is no longer possible to quickly check two sounds up against eachother. Before you could have two Finder windows running two sounds at the same time (and also adjust the volume of them separately). Neither Quicklook nor Audiofinder can do this easily. </p>
<p>Very annoying. I suspect the change is just cosmetic as well&#8230;. just to make it look more &#8220;clean&#8221; without the scrub-bar.</p>
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		<title>By: tricil</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/03/leopard-incompatibilities-with-jack-soundflower-finder-audio-previews/#comment-340452</link>
		<dc:creator>tricil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also seems the IAC driver has gone wonky.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=592524#592524</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also seems the IAC driver has gone wonky.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=592524#592524" rel="nofollow">http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=592524#592524</a></p>
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