Comments on: noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Grant Nestor » Blog Archive » Generative music, huh? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-773824 Grant Nestor » Blog Archive » Generative music, huh? Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:23:37 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-773824 [...] Noatikl @ CDM [...] [...] Noatikl @ CDM [...]

]]> By: YJ http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-628504 YJ Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:44:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-628504 ok, since Peter deleted my comments because he didn't like my website, here they are again: Being a long time user of SSEYO Koan and having used noatikl, i can tell you that noatikl is basically a software port of SSEYO Koan with a different, and clumsier interface, Worse noatikl doesn't offer the pattern editor SSEYO Koan offered, so it doesn't even offer the same functionality. You would think the creators of Koan, would have at least done a little more work when releasing noatikl, but alas, that was not to be. As a Koan user, i just can't see myself spending a dime on noatikl. My two cents. and please Peter, do not delete my comments. Thank you ok, since Peter deleted my comments because he didn’t like my website, here they are again:

Being a long time user of SSEYO Koan and having used noatikl, i can tell you that noatikl is basically a software port of SSEYO Koan with a different, and clumsier interface, Worse noatikl doesn’t offer the pattern editor SSEYO Koan offered, so it doesn’t even offer the same functionality.

You would think the creators of Koan, would have at least done a little more work when releasing noatikl, but alas, that was not to be.

As a Koan user, i just can’t see myself spending a dime on noatikl.

My two cents.

and please Peter, do not delete my comments.
Thank you

]]> By: Generative iPod? Deep Modular, Generative Music System Bound for iPhone, Phones, Windows, Mac | AXON http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-592352 Generative iPod? Deep Modular, Generative Music System Bound for iPhone, Phones, Windows, Mac | AXON Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:58:44 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-592352 [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...] [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...]

]]> By: Nodal: Generative Music Software for Mac (Free for Non-Commercial Use) | AXON http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-592294 Nodal: Generative Music Software for Mac (Free for Non-Commercial Use) | AXON Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:31:54 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-592294 [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...] [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...]

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Nodal: Generative Music Software for Mac (Free for Non-Commercial Use) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-551127 Create Digital Music » Nodal: Generative Music Software for Mac (Free for Non-Commercial Use) Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:13:51 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-551127 [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...] [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...]

]]> By: bunubuldum http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-497327 bunubuldum Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:33:53 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-497327 <strong>noatkl ile jeneratif müzik...</strong> ... noatkl ile jeneratif müzik…

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]]> By: Mat http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-497227 Mat Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:30:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-497227 Well, nice. But what is the difference to other algorithmic music creators? So far i see none. And there are a lot of them for free download... Here is the one i like most: MIDImage http://www.genjerdan.com/bfp/lmp/index.html it creates Midifiles from a a Picture. Or another one: AMUGEN (a musical generator) http://www.musoft-builders.com/links/amg.shtml I sometimes use these programms for creating ambient music, but mostly i only take parts out of them. Well, nice. But what is the difference to other algorithmic music creators? So far i see none. And there are a lot of them for free download…
Here is the one i like most:
MIDImage
http://www.genjerdan.com/bfp/lmp/index.html
it creates Midifiles from a a Picture.
Or another one:
AMUGEN (a musical generator)
http://www.musoft-builders.com/links/amg.shtml
I sometimes use these programms for creating ambient music, but mostly i only take parts out of them.

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Generative iPod? Deep Modular, Generative Music System Bound for iPhone, Phones, Windows, Mac http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-496812 Create Digital Music » Generative iPod? Deep Modular, Generative Music System Bound for iPhone, Phones, Windows, Mac Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:32:30 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-496812 [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...] [...] noatikl: New Generative Music Engine, So You Can Rock Out Like Eno [...]

]]> By: T Scott http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-397251 T Scott Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:15:34 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-397251 Just a little background: I played with Koan for some years back around the late 90's - early 00's. Even the last version (2.7) seemed a bit clunky and "inchoate." noatikl is smaller, cleaner and the Lua scripting capability beckons. I currently have it MIDI Yoked into Reason 4 and it works fine. More on my blog as I get deeper into it. Just a little background: I played with Koan for some years back around the late 90’s – early 00’s. Even the last version (2.7) seemed a bit clunky and “inchoate.” noatikl is smaller, cleaner and the Lua scripting capability beckons. I currently have it MIDI Yoked into Reason 4 and it works fine.
More on my blog as I get deeper into it.

]]> By: Pete http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/comment-page-1/#comment-358249 Pete Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:58:00 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/17/noatikl-new-generative-music-engine-so-you-can-rock-out-like-eno/#comment-358249 Thanks Chris! Pricing is impossible to get "perfect" for all our users. The feedback we've heard is that prospective users of noatikl are really happy to see the "hobbyist" price of 99 dollars. Sure, the suite license (allowing use of all the variants for a given platform, and for commercial use) costs more, but that is seen as a "fair" way to price the product; hobbyists get it as cheap as we can price it, and pro/am users get charged a bit more. This is quite similar to the way that Reaper is sold (different prices for hobbyist and pro/am uesrs), which seems like a great way for smaller companies to try to cater for different user needs. Fingers crossed we've got it right; but I can guarantee that some people still won't be happy. :) Pete Thanks Chris!

Pricing is impossible to get “perfect” for all our users.

The feedback we’ve heard is that prospective users of noatikl are really happy to see the “hobbyist” price of 99 dollars. Sure, the suite license (allowing use of all the variants for a given platform, and for commercial use) costs more, but that is seen as a “fair” way to price the product; hobbyists get it as cheap as we can price it, and pro/am users get charged a bit more.

This is quite similar to the way that Reaper is sold (different prices for hobbyist and pro/am uesrs), which seems like a great way for smaller companies to try to cater for different user needs.

Fingers crossed we’ve got it right; but I can guarantee that some people still won’t be happy. :)

Pete

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