Comments on: NAMM Years’ Eve: Favorite 2007 Musical Moments

By: dead_red_eyes

dead_red_eyes — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:18 +0000

It is $299. But maybe Sweetwater had some going for $199 when Michael bought his.

By: sunship

sunship — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:53:29 +0000

I don’t see the Alesis iO/14 firewire audio interface listed at Sweetwater at all (yet) and all the other retailers are at $299 not $199… typo?

By: Liz McLean Knight

Liz McLean Knight — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:49:19 +0000

I was attempting a neologism there under “emo-dubby-2step”– I meant it more along the lines of “emotional dubby etc” rather than in the “constipated, frustrated depressed” singer sense… fyi

ps: some way cool stuff here at NAMM! Already have added quite a few products to my 2008 xmas wishlist… :-o

By: dead_red_eyes

dead_red_eyes — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:09:30 +0000

Sure, there’s not a HUGE list up here Downpressor … but you don’t have to be a jerk to them about it. And if you noticed, it’s their own personal list … and not the overall site. Maybe Michael and Liz don’t give a shit about Korgs mini synth & KAOSS pad. I sure as hell don’t.

By: Downpressor

Downpressor — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:43:11 +0000

Thats the best y’all can come up with for 2007? I’m starting to get the impression that this site has become dorkaroundwithdigitalnoise rather than anything actually practically musical.

I for one dont see what all the fuss about the Tenori On, chiptunes is about. 2007 saw a bunch of affordable and musically useful plugins from Audio Damage, a proliferation of reasonably priced mixer/audio interface units, a ton of portable recorders, two nifty pocket sized things from Korg, rock dinosaurs leaving the womb of the major labels and who knows what else. I dont even pay close attention and that much comes to mind.

By: dead_red_eyes

dead_red_eyes — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:20:00 +0000

Nice to see you representing the Anticon scene Michael!

Lost, I agree with you there. The term “emo” doesn’t really seem to have any sort of solid ground, especially these days. I remember in the mid-late 80’s when “emo” first appeared in the punk rock scene and thrived with many releases on Dischord Records. Afterwards it quickly bled into indie rock. Then after that scene was over it started again with bands like Dashboard Confessional, AFI, Alexisonfire, Brand New, Coheed and Cambria, Fall Out Boy, From First to Last, Funeral for a Friend, Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Senses Fail, Something Corporate, The Starting Line, Story of the Year, Taking Back Sunday, Thursday, The Used, and Underoath. If you take Burial and compare them to everything that emo has ever been, you’ll see that it’s not even close to any of those bands.

The term has always been used to describe some type of music that carried lots of emotion. And doesn’t most of the music out there carry emotion? From Anticon to Merge records, lots of labels have artists that write music that’s chock full of emotion. Now you see why I have such distate for the word emo, and what it means. It’s a vague term at best that really doesn’t explain anything. I just think it’s the worst term/genre name that we have … yes, even worse than crunk/hyphy.

By: Michael Una

Michael Una — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:59:46 +0000

I would have listed Daft Punk but I didn’t get to see them play on their magical laser pyramid. If I had seen it personally, it would have been at the top of my list.

I just added Dosh to my list. Forgot about that one.

By: lost

lost — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:45:57 +0000

I guess emo the word, as a descriptor has, at least in my experience, has outgrown the genre completely. I’ve heard it used far more often to describe any music that displays any sort of vulnerability. People could call Elliott smiths music emo, or the newest break up ballad by xyz pop singer emo, or Burial’s beats of mourning emo. I wasn’t really even really thinking of the word in the sense of the genre, but as the descriptor it has become.

By: Machines

Machines — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:35:51 +0000

You got chocolate in my peanut butter!

By: dead_red_eyes

dead_red_eyes — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:56:47 +0000

Dark music = emo?

Nope.

Emo = wussy rock wishing it could be dark. Just like the explanation you wrote out.

GOTH called about 30+ years ago, but it looks like emo didn’t notice.

Seriously tho, emo is not dark. Goth and death metal are dark, and have way more atmosphere to them … and I don’t like that kind of music either. The only emo band I ever liked was “Sunny Day Real Estate”, and they were more indie rock than anything. Just because it has a great atmosphere doesn’t deem it to be emo, that’s pretty wanky if you ask me. It’s atmosphere has more in common with dark ambient music than anything. I hear influences by Steve Roach, Robert Rich, Brian Lustmord, ect.

I’m not a genre nazi by any means, but Burial is not emo. Not even close.