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	<title>Comments on: One-Fader Control Surfaces: A Cubase-Only Entry, vs. Everything Else</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher Scott Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Scott Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok,I just bought the CC121.Yes.I love it.Yamaha built this and the driver for it.You cn tell.A hammer would not hurt this thing.Fader port and such..plastic and really...Kinda cheapo looking.
Sure..Its over priced to me and yes..I STILL have to grab the darn mouse to do things.What I do not like is installing the AI4 software that came with it to get it to work.I mean..come on.
They are for SURE moving into advanced Intergration on all new software things.Watch Namm.Hence..AI...get you USED to having and seeing this.
Me,a guitarist and vocalist..much easier than without.its dedicated.Isnt this why SO many people are pro tools?We KNOW what thse things can cost.
They shoulf build the licecsse into the hardware instead of a plastic crappy dongle.I do not like it.Cheap made.I have replace 2 of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok,I just bought the CC121.Yes.I love it.Yamaha built this and the driver for it.You cn tell.A hammer would not hurt this thing.Fader port and such..plastic and really&#8230;Kinda cheapo looking.<br />
Sure..Its over priced to me and yes..I STILL have to grab the darn mouse to do things.What I do not like is installing the AI4 software that came with it to get it to work.I mean..come on.<br />
They are for SURE moving into advanced Intergration on all new software things.Watch Namm.Hence..AI&#8230;get you USED to having and seeing this.<br />
Me,a guitarist and vocalist..much easier than without.its dedicated.Isnt this why SO many people are pro tools?We KNOW what thse things can cost.<br />
They shoulf build the licecsse into the hardware instead of a plastic crappy dongle.I do not like it.Cheap made.I have replace 2 of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact is, the CC121 has much better built quality than the Faderport or the Alphatrack (and the knobs don&#039;t click with 120db). And, it&#039;s not right to say &#039;...because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob&#039; - you don&#039;t have to click, you just have to move your mouse pointer above the parameter you want to change. But the CC121 is not my end all blabla - a mixture between an Alphatrack and the CC121 would be my choice. CC121 built quality plus touch pad plus AI knob working for all VST and the possibility to move functions to the fader - that would be my dream controller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact is, the CC121 has much better built quality than the Faderport or the Alphatrack (and the knobs don&#8217;t click with 120db). And, it&#8217;s not right to say &#8216;&#8230;because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob&#8217; &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to click, you just have to move your mouse pointer above the parameter you want to change. But the CC121 is not my end all blabla &#8211; a mixture between an Alphatrack and the CC121 would be my choice. CC121 built quality plus touch pad plus AI knob working for all VST and the possibility to move functions to the fader &#8211; that would be my dream controller.</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; News from Steinberg Land: Cubase 4.5, CC121 Hardware Integration</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; News from Steinberg Land: Cubase 4.5, CC121 Hardware Integration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] integrates with the CC121 hardware controller. You may recall the CC121 as the hardware controller I just didn&#8217;t get, because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob. Well, now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] integrates with the CC121 hardware controller. You may recall the CC121 as the hardware controller I just didn&#8217;t get, because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob. Well, now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; News from Steinberg Land: Cubase 4.5, CC121 Hardware Integration</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; News from Steinberg Land: Cubase 4.5, CC121 Hardware Integration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] integrates with the CC121 hardware controller. You may recall the CC121 as the hardware controller I just didn&#8217;t get, because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob. Well, now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] integrates with the CC121 hardware controller. You may recall the CC121 as the hardware controller I just didn&#8217;t get, because it requires clicking with your mouse to tweak a single hardware knob. Well, now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DatA blOppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DatA blOppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That comment about the free ringtones, summed it all up for me....

...thanks.


Well, I work mostly with external equipment for synthesis and processing, rarely with vsts. A controller like this that is mainly geared towards eqing and level adjusting sound great to me. I look forward to demoing one of these out and seeing how it affects my work flow before I go on the internet ranting about he things it doesn&#039;t have. Cubase to me is just a daw, for everything else, there&#039;s KYMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comment about the free ringtones, summed it all up for me&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;thanks.</p>
<p>Well, I work mostly with external equipment for synthesis and processing, rarely with vsts. A controller like this that is mainly geared towards eqing and level adjusting sound great to me. I look forward to demoing one of these out and seeing how it affects my work flow before I go on the internet ranting about he things it doesn&#8217;t have. Cubase to me is just a daw, for everything else, there&#8217;s KYMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Petter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your great insight. It helped me to understand that there are other solutions out there that are more flexible. I feel sorry for once choosing to work with Cubase as I feel they are moving the wrong direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your great insight. It helped me to understand that there are other solutions out there that are more flexible. I feel sorry for once choosing to work with Cubase as I feel they are moving the wrong direction.</p>
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		<title>By: djaychela</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, first up, remember Steinberg&#039;s history with hardware - poor support and generally poor hardware (particularly with the Houston, a disaster that was very long-winded and painful), but I think they&#039;ve missed the point again with this - yes it provides a few controls which may be useful some of the time, but with only one encoder there&#039;ll be as much messing about to alter which parameter is being edited as to edit it.  

I was lucky enough to chop my Houston in for a Mackie Control and despite Steinberg&#039;s brain-damaged implementation of this excellent control surface it provides a useful way of working with the software, but I think the single-fader route isn&#039;t the right way to go for me; I&#039;d prefer more faders as the whole &quot;fader paging&quot; route is quite a trial - having to do this for &lt;b&gt;every&lt;/b&gt; channel change would be really hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, first up, remember Steinberg&#8217;s history with hardware &#8211; poor support and generally poor hardware (particularly with the Houston, a disaster that was very long-winded and painful), but I think they&#8217;ve missed the point again with this &#8211; yes it provides a few controls which may be useful some of the time, but with only one encoder there&#8217;ll be as much messing about to alter which parameter is being edited as to edit it.  </p>
<p>I was lucky enough to chop my Houston in for a Mackie Control and despite Steinberg&#8217;s brain-damaged implementation of this excellent control surface it provides a useful way of working with the software, but I think the single-fader route isn&#8217;t the right way to go for me; I&#8217;d prefer more faders as the whole &#8220;fader paging&#8221; route is quite a trial &#8211; having to do this for <b>every</b> channel change would be really hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: MonksDream</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonksDream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ - Have you tried the Alpha? You just might like it.</description>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most commenters that Steinberg made a big boo-boo in making this an Cubase only controller.

This sort of controller is perfect for &#039;my&#039; personal set up. I already own a Kore, so controlling AU/Vsts is all set. But I find when mixing, I get a cramp from the awful Apple mouse, and find myslef on Safari looking at reviews of the AlphaTrack and Faderport.

If I could use this thing in Logic 8, I would be the first in line to purchase one on day of release. 

The fact that there is a dedicated button to bring up my VST, I could use that to activate Kore and control any other plugs I want. I use the Logic EQ, and yearn for dedicated buttons to control it. This thing is a dream and my worst nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most commenters that Steinberg made a big boo-boo in making this an Cubase only controller.</p>
<p>This sort of controller is perfect for &#8216;my&#8217; personal set up. I already own a Kore, so controlling AU/Vsts is all set. But I find when mixing, I get a cramp from the awful Apple mouse, and find myslef on Safari looking at reviews of the AlphaTrack and Faderport.</p>
<p>If I could use this thing in Logic 8, I would be the first in line to purchase one on day of release. </p>
<p>The fact that there is a dedicated button to bring up my VST, I could use that to activate Kore and control any other plugs I want. I use the Logic EQ, and yearn for dedicated buttons to control it. This thing is a dream and my worst nightmare.</p>
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