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	<title>Comments on: Ableton&#8217;s Robert Henke, And Why Sometimes Less (&#8217;Fidelity&#8217;) is More</title>
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		<title>By: Trance Pacific</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-894638</link>
		<dc:creator>Trance Pacific</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doh

 Werd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doh</p>
<p> Werd.</p>
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		<title>By: doh</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-887051</link>
		<dc:creator>doh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(In fact, a lot of the electronica sound and its approach to the technology is deeply indebted to American hip-hop and African-American artists.)&quot; 

Fact? Deeply indebted? nigga please. electronica sound is completely INDEBTED to folks such as Bob Moog, Dave Smith, Miller Puckette,  John Chowning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(In fact, a lot of the electronica sound and its approach to the technology is deeply indebted to American hip-hop and African-American artists.)&#8221; </p>
<p>Fact? Deeply indebted? nigga please. electronica sound is completely INDEBTED to folks such as Bob Moog, Dave Smith, Miller Puckette,  John Chowning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bajenski</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-609129</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bajenski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish ableton would make live a x64 bit application because that way i can load many more of my live pa samples to ram.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish ableton would make live a x64 bit application because that way i can load many more of my live pa samples to ram.</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Albeton Live&#8217;s Non-Existent &#34;Secret&#34; Vocoder; No One Needs a Vocoder</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-449823</link>
		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Albeton Live&#8217;s Non-Existent &#34;Secret&#34; Vocoder; No One Needs a Vocoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] things we&#8217;d like to put on t-shirts. This is the same event at which Henke told a crowd that no one needs 64-bit, and sometimes you don&#8217;t even need [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] things we&#8217;d like to put on t-shirts. This is the same event at which Henke told a crowd that no one needs 64-bit, and sometimes you don&#8217;t even need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Disquiet &#187; tangents / Video Streams (Shocklee, Monolake, machinima &#8230;)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disquiet &#187; tangents / Video Streams (Shocklee, Monolake, machinima &#8230;)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8230; Minimal techno figure Robert Henke (aka Monolake) presentation (video.google.com, via createdigitalmusic.com). &#8230; Laptop-enabled guitarist Christopher Willits lecture on his process (xlr8r.com). &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230; Minimal techno figure Robert Henke (aka Monolake) presentation (video.google.com, via createdigitalmusic.com). &#8230; Laptop-enabled guitarist Christopher Willits lecture on his process (xlr8r.com). &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sph9000</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-426370</link>
		<dc:creator>sph9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You donâ€™t even need 16-bit all the time&quot;

I totally agree!

I actually really like low-fi sounds, and in these last times I do my best trying to sample old gear instead of using soft synths as VSTs in Live. I find the 80&#039;s electronic music recordings so raw, and sounding much better than modern electronic music. 
I understood the reason about this reading about recording techniques, and equipment used those times:
8 or 12bit samplers, FM and analogue synths, analogue mixers, tape recorders...
Is it possible to recreate a similar sound in Ableton now?
Redux doesn&#039;t really match the sound I&#039;m intended to get, which should be like an Emulator II (8bit 27Khz), or an SP1200 (12bit 22Khz), or an AKAI Mpc2000...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You donâ€™t even need 16-bit all the time&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree!</p>
<p>I actually really like low-fi sounds, and in these last times I do my best trying to sample old gear instead of using soft synths as VSTs in Live. I find the 80&#8217;s electronic music recordings so raw, and sounding much better than modern electronic music.<br />
I understood the reason about this reading about recording techniques, and equipment used those times:<br />
8 or 12bit samplers, FM and analogue synths, analogue mixers, tape recorders&#8230;<br />
Is it possible to recreate a similar sound in Ableton now?<br />
Redux doesn&#8217;t really match the sound I&#8217;m intended to get, which should be like an Emulator II (8bit 27Khz), or an SP1200 (12bit 22Khz), or an AKAI Mpc2000&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: digital lofi</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-423878</link>
		<dc:creator>digital lofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul Davis: Ignorance?

I wasn&#039;t trying to make any sort of pro/con argument, and fully admit I&#039;m sorta out of my depth here. I was merely making a comment on who Cakewalk marketing is likely targeting with this boast, other than power-geeks who just want the latest and greatest and the most perceived bang for their buck.

I watched a video online somewhere that showed the inside of a large pro film scoring studio, where they had a server room of PCs networked, and a huge 128(?) channel board/controller. It was enlightening about who these companies are targeting with some these more high-spec features.

But what do I know? I work at 44.1/24. I keep the 64bit signal chain engaged but more from inertia - really what harm can it do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul Davis: Ignorance?</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to make any sort of pro/con argument, and fully admit I&#8217;m sorta out of my depth here. I was merely making a comment on who Cakewalk marketing is likely targeting with this boast, other than power-geeks who just want the latest and greatest and the most perceived bang for their buck.</p>
<p>I watched a video online somewhere that showed the inside of a large pro film scoring studio, where they had a server room of PCs networked, and a huge 128(?) channel board/controller. It was enlightening about who these companies are targeting with some these more high-spec features.</p>
<p>But what do I know? I work at 44.1/24. I keep the 64bit signal chain engaged but more from inertia &#8211; really what harm can it do?</p>
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		<title>By: digital lofi &#187; BeatBurner: A Mini Review</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-422033</link>
		<dc:creator>digital lofi &#187; BeatBurner: A Mini Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they are - off the top of my head I can think of 4 things I wish it did or did better - but since we&#8217;re all more or less in agreement that what sounds good is good no matter what goddamn bit-rate it was recorded at, it is a nice tool for getting some new use out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they are &#8211; off the top of my head I can think of 4 things I wish it did or did better &#8211; but since we&#8217;re all more or less in agreement that what sounds good is good no matter what goddamn bit-rate it was recorded at, it is a nice tool for getting some new use out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Davis</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/03/21/abletons-robert-henke-and-why-sometimes-less-bitrate-is-more/comment-page-1/#comment-422032</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And honestly I think itâ€™s more of selling point to audio production house and film scoring studios, where high-definition audio is actually important.&lt;/i&gt;

Man, these companies have technology users eating out their hand :) What makes you think that 64 bit versus 32 bit floating point is about high definition audio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And honestly I think itâ€™s more of selling point to audio production house and film scoring studios, where high-definition audio is actually important.</i></p>
<p>Man, these companies have technology users eating out their hand :) What makes you think that 64 bit versus 32 bit floating point is about high definition audio?</p>
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		<title>By: digital lofi</title>
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		<dc:creator>digital lofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d point out, nothing in Sonar forces you to use the 64-bit signal chain; it&#039;s easy enough to turn off. And honestly I think it&#039;s more of selling point to audio production house and film scoring studios, where high-definition audio is actually important. i.e. Going more for the Nuendo market than the Ableton market. Though I guess the lines are more blurry than ever.

But I heartily agree with you, Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d point out, nothing in Sonar forces you to use the 64-bit signal chain; it&#8217;s easy enough to turn off. And honestly I think it&#8217;s more of selling point to audio production house and film scoring studios, where high-definition audio is actually important. i.e. Going more for the Nuendo market than the Ableton market. Though I guess the lines are more blurry than ever.</p>
<p>But I heartily agree with you, Peter.</p>
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