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	<title>Comments on: Elsewhere: Korg ZERO8 Mixer Video Review</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quirk Street</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-456374</link>
		<dc:creator>Quirk Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same SPlurt from korgforums?
At the start of the threads you seemed pretty fired up - I'm on the verge of buying this mixer, which appears to be a great piece of kit - should I go ahead and buy now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same SPlurt from korgforums?<br />
At the start of the threads you seemed pretty fired up - I&#8217;m on the verge of buying this mixer, which appears to be a great piece of kit - should I go ahead and buy now?</p>
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		<title>By: splurt</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-453880</link>
		<dc:creator>splurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, as far as the hiss goes, if you lower your monitors to 25% and run the mixer really hot, (its meant to be run that way) , its not really audible..

i like it for messing with lives tracks in the audio realm..., i like the control faders,

the hiss will be resolved.. its hardly an issue if you run it hot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, as far as the hiss goes, if you lower your monitors to 25% and run the mixer really hot, (its meant to be run that way) , its not really audible..</p>
<p>i like it for messing with lives tracks in the audio realm&#8230;, i like the control faders,</p>
<p>the hiss will be resolved.. its hardly an issue if you run it hot</p>
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		<title>By: Nikit@</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-446918</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikit@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thisssssssssssssssss issssssssssssssssss the Sound of the KORG ZERO 8 ...................
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thisssssssssssssssss issssssssssssssssss the Sound of the KORG ZERO 8 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: detroiter</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-446265</link>
		<dc:creator>detroiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gearing up to buy a NAMM floor model of the Zero8 when I found out about the hissing issue. I backpedaled even faster when I caught wind of the Vestax VCM-600. Also a Live user, I found the Zero8 is definitely overkill as compared to the VCM-600.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gearing up to buy a NAMM floor model of the Zero8 when I found out about the hissing issue. I backpedaled even faster when I caught wind of the Vestax VCM-600. Also a Live user, I found the Zero8 is definitely overkill as compared to the VCM-600.</p>
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		<title>By: Proof</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-436957</link>
		<dc:creator>Proof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sold mine.

Looking to get a VCM-600 instead.

Essentially, for Ableton use, this is way overkill, and has several issues with work-flow.

For example - how do you have any plugins over the master channel? It rules out using the individual outputs, unless you then want to sum it in the Korg, then feed it back into the computer, through a channel, and back out - incurring an extra round of latency in the process. I was internally summing for the master buss, but still sending channels out individually for reference signal indication on the channels, but the new BIOS update basically broke that functionality for me.

As a DJ mixer - I was never sold on it either - I have gone back to an Empath. I feel it is better sounding in the role, the EQs are more to my liking, and I don't really miss the effects, which ended up sounding, like, well, effects on a DJ mixer (some of you might get what I am at there). Essentially, I ended up using all internal (VST) effects, filters and EQs, rendering the inbuilt DSP redundant. Things like the 'drawing eq' are cool in concept, but I don't really see a practical use for them. If I want them, I will either get a Kaoss Pad, or probably go back to guitar pedals...

I can see it would be useful if it was the only mixer/interface you had in the studio, but the reality is, it doesn't sound as good as my Lavry/RME system, doesn't functionally work as well as my Rane DJ Mixer, and for me, just became a really, really expensive and bulky midi controller.

Additionally, it crashed on me a few times to many, and using the SPIDIF output on it caused things to go really wrong.

Adam - if you want a cool little midi translator preset that turns the EQ selector button into a series of CC commands for use in something like Ableton, just hit me up at my website.

BTW - I have gotten fairly picky about my kit over the years, so take this all with a grain of salt... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sold mine.</p>
<p>Looking to get a VCM-600 instead.</p>
<p>Essentially, for Ableton use, this is way overkill, and has several issues with work-flow.</p>
<p>For example - how do you have any plugins over the master channel? It rules out using the individual outputs, unless you then want to sum it in the Korg, then feed it back into the computer, through a channel, and back out - incurring an extra round of latency in the process. I was internally summing for the master buss, but still sending channels out individually for reference signal indication on the channels, but the new BIOS update basically broke that functionality for me.</p>
<p>As a DJ mixer - I was never sold on it either - I have gone back to an Empath. I feel it is better sounding in the role, the EQs are more to my liking, and I don&#8217;t really miss the effects, which ended up sounding, like, well, effects on a DJ mixer (some of you might get what I am at there). Essentially, I ended up using all internal (VST) effects, filters and EQs, rendering the inbuilt DSP redundant. Things like the &#8216;drawing eq&#8217; are cool in concept, but I don&#8217;t really see a practical use for them. If I want them, I will either get a Kaoss Pad, or probably go back to guitar pedals&#8230;</p>
<p>I can see it would be useful if it was the only mixer/interface you had in the studio, but the reality is, it doesn&#8217;t sound as good as my Lavry/RME system, doesn&#8217;t functionally work as well as my Rane DJ Mixer, and for me, just became a really, really expensive and bulky midi controller.</p>
<p>Additionally, it crashed on me a few times to many, and using the SPIDIF output on it caused things to go really wrong.</p>
<p>Adam - if you want a cool little midi translator preset that turns the EQ selector button into a series of CC commands for use in something like Ableton, just hit me up at my website.</p>
<p>BTW - I have gotten fairly picky about my kit over the years, so take this all with a grain of salt&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ortho</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-435418</link>
		<dc:creator>ortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks pretty deluxx, 

but did he say flaynger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks pretty deluxx, </p>
<p>but did he say flaynger?</p>
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		<title>By: adam dworak</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-434706</link>
		<dc:creator>adam dworak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll give that a try this weekend, but its not a 60hz hum, i would recognize that immediately.  It is white noise.  I have everything plugged into two furmans, but we all know that they are just glorified extension cords :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give that a try this weekend, but its not a 60hz hum, i would recognize that immediately.  It is white noise.  I have everything plugged into two furmans, but we all know that they are just glorified extension cords :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dodeca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodeca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Korg have officially acknowledged the hiss issue.  Something about inputs being run too hot internally, and thus not-resolvable by a firmware upgrade, although it appears they are working hard on a hardware fix.

Regardless, it looks like Korg built a turd.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29285&#38;postdays=0&#38;postorder=asc&#38;start=0

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31044

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33483</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Korg have officially acknowledged the hiss issue.  Something about inputs being run too hot internally, and thus not-resolvable by a firmware upgrade, although it appears they are working hard on a hardware fix.</p>
<p>Regardless, it looks like Korg built a turd.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29285&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29285&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=0</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31044" rel="nofollow">http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31044</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33483" rel="nofollow">http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33483</a></p>
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		<title>By: Champ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Champ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hiss problem might be ground loop feedback...

Are the computer and mixer plugged into the same circuit?

I know when I use Traktor, if my laptop an my mixer are both plugged in to the same surge protector I get that 60hz hum, but as soon as I unplug the laptop the noise goes right away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hiss problem might be ground loop feedback&#8230;</p>
<p>Are the computer and mixer plugged into the same circuit?</p>
<p>I know when I use Traktor, if my laptop an my mixer are both plugged in to the same surge protector I get that 60hz hum, but as soon as I unplug the laptop the noise goes right away.</p>
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		<title>By: adam dworak</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/04/03/elsewhere-korg-zero8-mixer-video-review/#comment-433531</link>
		<dc:creator>adam dworak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure!

@actuel:
-Firewire input device, this is actually the reason i bought this.  The latency is awesome, and the quality is really good.  I especially like the preamps.  XY is pretty responsive, no where near as nice as my prodjpc though...the korg's touchscreen is soft, not glass.
Integration, very seamless. This is my new audio hub.  It does whatever I need.

@Peter
I use ableton and deckance with this too.  I think it would be serious overkill for anyone using virtual dj, cue, pcdj, traktor, etc.  I've only had a little time to play with an evo5.  What I like about the evo is the build quailty.  I keep my Korg in a case at all times, but the ecler I would be ok with it travelling in a backpack.  

Also, on the hiss issue, my unit does not put out much noise.  There is some noise but when I am about 1-2 feet away from my monitors I cant hear it.  I know this isn't a quantitative measure, but I'm trying to shed some light.  In a club this is not an issue, but I see why people would be worried if they use lots of outboard gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure!</p>
<p>@actuel:<br />
-Firewire input device, this is actually the reason i bought this.  The latency is awesome, and the quality is really good.  I especially like the preamps.  XY is pretty responsive, no where near as nice as my prodjpc though&#8230;the korg&#8217;s touchscreen is soft, not glass.<br />
Integration, very seamless. This is my new audio hub.  It does whatever I need.</p>
<p>@Peter<br />
I use ableton and deckance with this too.  I think it would be serious overkill for anyone using virtual dj, cue, pcdj, traktor, etc.  I&#8217;ve only had a little time to play with an evo5.  What I like about the evo is the build quailty.  I keep my Korg in a case at all times, but the ecler I would be ok with it travelling in a backpack.  </p>
<p>Also, on the hiss issue, my unit does not put out much noise.  There is some noise but when I am about 1-2 feet away from my monitors I cant hear it.  I know this isn&#8217;t a quantitative measure, but I&#8217;m trying to shed some light.  In a club this is not an issue, but I see why people would be worried if they use lots of outboard gear.</p>
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