Comments on: Max 5: Max/MSP/Jitter Pricing Updated

By: Niall

Niall — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:04:00 +0000

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By: Niall

Niall — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:03:34 +0000

AFAIK, there are no specialized software that provide what I need - mostly step sequencers and MIDI clock dividers with some rules and event processing. There’s PD, Bidule, etc, but I have some hope for Max 5, because it looks considerably more accessible for the Rest of Us. Anyway, I don’t mean to turn this into the Niall Hour, sorry.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:40:50 +0000

It’s not an upsell … I still think it would make more sense to just call the whole package Max, honestly. It’s a little hard to describe how these fit together, but because of the way Max’s architecture is put together. If you have fairly simple MIDI needs, I would actually look elsewhere first, depending on what you’re trying to do. For basic MIDI utilities, I tend to look to more specialized tools.

By: Niall

Niall — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:55:22 +0000

Hullo, Peter,

Thanks for that. That wasn’t apparent in C74’s pricing summary, but you can see it on the netsuite site.

I appreciate the upsell, but my needs are fairly simple and specific. I need a grokkable tool to realise those relatively basic ideas, not a lifestyle ;)

I’ll read the docs for the additional bits all the same, though. Cheers.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:31:17 +0000

@Niall: You still can get just Max, only not via the academic discount. But I don’t think you’d want to do that anyway. There are some really brilliant things you can do, even with Jitter, that are unrelated to video. Check out the examples folder and docs. If you love MIDI goodness, you’ll love it even more with, say, 3D interfaces, or matrix processing, etc. There are very simple applications, too, like using Jitter’s network objects to do sync your MIDI patches over a network, etc. So I don’t think there’s any reason you wouldn’t want those extra objects.

By: Niall

Niall — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:01:50 +0000

I hoped maybe I could still buy Max and skip the audio&video processing. I just want the MIDI goodness.

By: Vlad Spears

Vlad Spears — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:52:27 +0000

@ Sizzurp Sippa:
I think Cycling’s sales model somewhat covers the folks who just want to play with it a bit by offering a free 30-day, fully functional demo period. It’s a programming environment, so it’s not really something you can get much gratification or solid experience out of by using it so infrequently. 30 days is a great amount of time to try it, see if you like it, potentially get hooked on it and go on learning endlessly. Plus, while the entry point might seem high, upgrades are not. Cycling are *very* good about free incremental releases.

I’ve been Maxing for years. For myself, I’d happily pay twice the asking price now I know what I can do with it.

@ Dave Dri:
Tried the Green Tea Chocolate striped Pocky? Something about it seems very Max 5 to me. They’re both delicious.

By: Andrew Benson

Andrew Benson — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:15:55 +0000

@Mark, You should be receiving an email soon with upgrade instructions. Same goes for anyone eligible for a free upgrade.

By: Sizzurp Sippa

Sizzurp Sippa — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:07:49 +0000

I would purchase Max/MSP for $200-$250, just to play with once in a while, even if I don’t plan to make it a cornerstone of my setup. For $700, I am just not interested. It seems to me there are a lot of folks like me.

$700 just doesn’t seem like the optimal pricing for their product.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:34:29 +0000

I was wondering how I could upgrade as I use the 9-month-student-version and that one didn’t come with a serial but with challenge/response codes…