Comments on: NI Ends Legal Dispute Over Traktor Scratch; Digital Vinyl’s Twisty, Turny History

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Tue, 13 May 2008 23:13:54 +0000

[...] various ways to bridge the gap between vinyl records and computers, as we saw last week. You can cut records with digital timecode. You can build controller hardware that simulates the resistance of a motor, or mechanically [...]

By: Elijah

Elijah — Mon, 12 May 2008 04:43:30 +0000

I can’t believe its been 10 years already… I remember the exact moment I was introduced to digital vinyl, what always amazes me and still does is how accurate some of these set ups can get.. there is almost no lag factor.. and that was my first initial thought…”he’s cutting mp3’s… holy crap!”

i like cats.. I like vinyl.. I like turntables.. I like that picture..

By: guycalledfrank

guycalledfrank — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:43:02 +0000

Hi Peter, working on my thesis about a related topic I found this site and just want to say thank you! This is the information I was looking for…and by the way: cool site…in 10 days I´ll have the time to take a closer look…

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Legal disputes and history of digital vinyl - Crate Kings Forums — Mon, 05 May 2008 18:19:21 +0000

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Fight Club Frühlingsedition « DIGITAL AUDIO SERVICE — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:06:44 +0000

[...] Streit über Anerkennung und Verwendung von Patenten für Vinyl Timecode geeinigt, wie CMD ausführlich berichtet. Native Instruments kann jetzt sein Traktor Scratch weiterhin betreiben, während Stanton ohne [...]

By: Paul Davis

Paul Davis — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:40:52 +0000

@peter: damn, i misremembered what TerminatorX was/is. My recollection was that it used vinyl timecode from the beginning, when in fact, it never really has used it at all. My apologies for the misdirect. Feel free to delete my useless post.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:19:07 +0000

@Paul: Sure, but the point here is the vinyl timecode. TerminatorX is interesting, I agree, but the enabling technologies of the computer side of this equation generally go much earlier than 1997. Writing that history would take more than a blog post. And realize I’m not covering any of the other digital DJ things … timecode included … just tracing the Final Scratch thing is complicated enough. :)

By: Paul Davis

Paul Davis — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:48:50 +0000

an extra wrinkle in the history:

http://terminatorx.org/

it doesn’t predate the claims to have done timecode work from 1997-1999, but it certainly predates or parallels any commercial product using the technology.

By: Damon

Damon — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:24:40 +0000

That cat is really cute. Technology is better with cats. Needed to be said.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:10:23 +0000

Robert, I’m not sure. Initially I thought it was an area of concern, but as you look closer at this case — given NI’s *direct* involvement with the underlying technology that was in Final Scratch — I think this is really largely limited to NI. It gives N2IT some additional leverage if they decide to pursue further patent claims. But they’d now have to go after a lot of targets, and there seems to be no indication they’re bringing anything else to court. Open source projects would likely be down the list.

Someone with patent law background might be able to say more, but based on my *own* knowledge, I can at least say that NI had an unparalleled amount of access to the technology. Open source projects are just doing the basics — timecode on vinyl — and are even focused more on the easy parts of the implementation of that.