Comments on: CSI: Chiptune – nitro2k01 Gets Scientific with Alleged Violations; Crystal Castles Responds

By: Mat Rapid

Mat Rapid — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:22:40 +0000

it seems to me that most of the posts here must be from non musicians. Surely the creative process is far more important than the technicalities and legal issues of sampling. When producing music, the sound is all that matters, wherever the samples originate from. and yes, it would be much ‘cleaner’ to clear the samples before undertaking a project, but who does that? and how many people are confident that every song they produce will end up being successful? It is counterproductive to get wound up clearing samples before you use them. I’m not advocating plagiarism, just common sense. Where would hip hop be without sampling?

By: Somil

Somil — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:08:58 +0000

The songs that have samples from other artists weren’t released. They were not in violation of the creative commons license as it was not used for a commercial purpose since it was not released on an album, they posted it to their myspace. Their only mistake was that they didn’t give credit to the artist they supposedly stole from. But this plagiarism is no different than the appropriation of fine art throughout history.

By: xpez2000

xpez2000 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:57:16 +0000

Crystal Castles = Milli Vanilli…

Anyway they sound like ASS live. They have like one catchy song.

If I was the person who made the original sample I would hire a lawyer and see how much I could sue the crystal Castles for…

If your willing to play the game of stealing and see if you can get away with it later then fine..lets play that game I hope you make millions ..so I can make millions TOO off your talent too by SUING YOU!!! …

if that doesnt work then i will have to let the air out your tires!!!! LOL

there will be hell to pay for plagiarism!!!!

By: Jeff

Jeff — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:00:20 +0000

I actually had not heard of Crystal Castles until now, I think they are really good. The song with the Lo-bat sample is their poorest track and it’s unreleased, so why the fuss?

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By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:06:02 +0000

So I just watched a video that made me come back here. Interesting to read the replies... and it made me look twice at the story. So, I apologize: I didn't know the full story when I posted my comment. That said, I did just go listen to the tracks in question, and... well... to my ear, it's borderline. It doesn't sound to me like they just ripped the entire song and sang over it (if you can call it singing)... it sounds like they ripped the beat pretty much verbatim and took some notes for the backing music. So I don't think the "infringement" is as dire as has been claimed. Secondly, I don't think this should be cause for a lawsuit, so much as a black mark on the band. As several people pointed out: they stole the music and called it their creation. Lame. But, really, worth a lawsuit? Not in my opinion. And, to answer Sizzurp Sippa (while trying to avoid jibes at the handle), yes, I make music. Have for decades. And I release it cc. And if my music were used in a commercial, I'd be pretty psyched. I'd be posting notices everywhere I could: "look, look, some corporation used my music! The rat bastards stole it!" ...And I'd be grinning from ear to ear as I did it, cause it would mean more people hearing my stuff. So, in summary: I spoke too soon and too brashly... CC is obviously comprised of brats. And they done wrong. And the more people who point it out, the better. But I still say that copyright infringement lawsuits are about as useful as brushing your teeth with brillo pads. They do far more harm than good. Sure... sometimes you gotta lay the smackdown. But this is NOT one of those cases. And Larry Lessig says some pretty amazing things in that video... if you've read this far in the comments, you'll want to watch it.

By: caramello

caramello — Sun, 18 May 2008 10:50:40 +0000

the thing that really bothered me was reading that crystal castles sampled anything in the first place. isn’t the idea of chiptune music making new music from machines that were never intended to do anything serious musically? pushing the boundries of those machines to make something more musical? don’t get me wrong, i think sampling is fascinating. i love the JAMs. i sample stuff all the time. the thing is, they weren’t even sampling, they were ripping their peers off. when i sample something, i sample something that’s not what i’m doing. the one measure of a song from 1972 that when looped becomes an amazing disco thing. the accidentally really electro break from that song i heard on _____. the thing is, you’d hear it and think “oh, i wonder what this cut up sample is from.” it’s not me sampling some really hot beat that sounds exactly like something i’d make. my samples are obvious, but i try to recontextualize them, and make what i contribute the more interesting part of the song, and if i ever decided to release something or get on a record label, i’d ask permission for the really obvious ones, or just make somethign better. but this goes further. it’s beyond sampling. this is just lazy. it’s theft. and it made me lose so much respect for them.

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By: ugga

ugga — Thu, 08 May 2008 22:47:51 +0000

can the original artist not just sue them?
they’re obviously in the right, so it shouldn’t be hard to find a lawyer to work pro boner, no?