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	<title>Comments on: PreSonus Goes to Open Beta for Drivers</title>
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		<title>By: Zero</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/05/15/presonus-goes-to-open-beta-for-drivers/#comment-543959</link>
		<dc:creator>Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have  a presonus firestudio project and some m-audio stuff aswell... they are good and what not but the lack of 654 bit drivers is driving me crazy... nothing works on my system even the ones with 64 bit drivers are sketchy at best with clicks here and there :( hard disk recorders would be the best way to go LOL
really it is cAUSE i have my mac and my pc and a roland 2480 seems that my vs is my best bet till these companies resolve these issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have  a presonus firestudio project and some m-audio stuff aswell&#8230; they are good and what not but the lack of 654 bit drivers is driving me crazy&#8230; nothing works on my system even the ones with 64 bit drivers are sketchy at best with clicks here and there :( hard disk recorders would be the best way to go LOL<br />
really it is cAUSE i have my mac and my pc and a roland 2480 seems that my vs is my best bet till these companies resolve these issues</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/05/15/presonus-goes-to-open-beta-for-drivers/#comment-477169</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do IT for a living, and music + PC stuff in my free time, so I am more than experienced with troubleshooting these firewire issues with Windows + audio devices (also had a MOTU 8pre and a Presonus FP10).  I have spent way more effort than is reasonable to get this barely working, and it is not reliable.  I definitely couldn't expect to charge $ while using it.  It is definitely not plug and play with any of the 3 Windows computers I own.  IMO, I shouldn't need forums, blogs, open beta programs, phone support, driver hacks, dual boots, etc. on this product.  What do musicians do that have little PC troubleshooting skills?  Answer - use a mac... (although it sounds like that is not a sure thing either anymore)

But, I guess my comments are off topic here, since I have a Firestudio Project, and the Open  Beta Drivers is only for the Firestudio...

If I had my money back, I would put it towards an all in one hard disk recorder and cut pc/mac all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do IT for a living, and music + PC stuff in my free time, so I am more than experienced with troubleshooting these firewire issues with Windows + audio devices (also had a MOTU 8pre and a Presonus FP10).  I have spent way more effort than is reasonable to get this barely working, and it is not reliable.  I definitely couldn&#8217;t expect to charge $ while using it.  It is definitely not plug and play with any of the 3 Windows computers I own.  IMO, I shouldn&#8217;t need forums, blogs, open beta programs, phone support, driver hacks, dual boots, etc. on this product.  What do musicians do that have little PC troubleshooting skills?  Answer - use a mac&#8230; (although it sounds like that is not a sure thing either anymore)</p>
<p>But, I guess my comments are off topic here, since I have a Firestudio Project, and the Open  Beta Drivers is only for the Firestudio&#8230;</p>
<p>If I had my money back, I would put it towards an all in one hard disk recorder and cut pc/mac all together.</p>
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		<title>By: contakt</title>
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		<dc:creator>contakt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michiel

Yeah, I have the Lucenta (spelling?) Firewire chips running Leopard, mine has never synced. I have been really lazy about dealing w/ it b/c I haven't NEEDED to record audio. I tried calling Tech Support on Friday and was on hold for over 30 minutes so I gave up. Gonna try again today. Cross your fingers for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michiel</p>
<p>Yeah, I have the Lucenta (spelling?) Firewire chips running Leopard, mine has never synced. I have been really lazy about dealing w/ it b/c I haven&#8217;t NEEDED to record audio. I tried calling Tech Support on Friday and was on hold for over 30 minutes so I gave up. Gonna try again today. Cross your fingers for me.</p>
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		<title>By: rlahalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>rlahalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've had a firepod since they came out. Started on XP sp2 for a while, then I just moved it to a dual core mac to do mobile recording and I've never once had a problem. I was wary to go with the Firepod after getting a Firestation, which was a different mLan nightmare altogether. Ah yes, good ol' Yamaha always raising that bar so I can crawl under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a firepod since they came out. Started on XP sp2 for a while, then I just moved it to a dual core mac to do mobile recording and I&#8217;ve never once had a problem. I was wary to go with the Firepod after getting a Firestation, which was a different mLan nightmare altogether. Ah yes, good ol&#8217; Yamaha always raising that bar so I can crawl under.</p>
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		<title>By: mistrust</title>
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		<dc:creator>mistrust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Brother is watching.....I posted something on my blog about thinking about getting the Firestudio and someone from Presonus replied saying "if there's anything I can tell you about the FS, let me know". Maybe they'll join in the discussion on here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Brother is watching&#8230;..I posted something on my blog about thinking about getting the Firestudio and someone from Presonus replied saying &#8220;if there&#8217;s anything I can tell you about the FS, let me know&#8221;. Maybe they&#8217;ll join in the discussion on here?</p>
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		<title>By: michiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>michiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@contakt: this is a well known problem, read the Presonus forums: e.g. http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=4859.

I am on a 12" Powerbook with a Firebox. Under Mac OS X Tiger, syncing was instant and posed no problem at all. I recently upgraded to Leopard and now syncing the Firebox upon hotplugging sometimes fails, i.e. the red light(=no sync) stays on after shortly blinking blue(=sync). Otherwise, I am perfectly happy with this Presonus product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@contakt: this is a well known problem, read the Presonus forums: e.g. <a href="http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=4859" rel="nofollow">http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=4859</a>.</p>
<p>I am on a 12&#8243; Powerbook with a Firebox. Under Mac OS X Tiger, syncing was instant and posed no problem at all. I recently upgraded to Leopard and now syncing the Firebox upon hotplugging sometimes fails, i.e. the red light(=no sync) stays on after shortly blinking blue(=sync). Otherwise, I am perfectly happy with this Presonus product.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get me wrong ... I've had really rock-solid performance out of my FireWire-based Focusrite Saffire. What I'm saying is, there are other drivers on the system that can impact performance. So you can't immediately blame the audio vendor -- not unless you've disabled just about everything else. And while the presence of more drivers, generally, along with other subtle issues can make life more difficult on Windows, you're not immune to parallel problems on other platforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8230; I&#8217;ve had really rock-solid performance out of my FireWire-based Focusrite Saffire. What I&#8217;m saying is, there are other drivers on the system that can impact performance. So you can&#8217;t immediately blame the audio vendor &#8212; not unless you&#8217;ve disabled just about everything else. And while the presence of more drivers, generally, along with other subtle issues can make life more difficult on Windows, you&#8217;re not immune to parallel problems on other platforms.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is Window's implementation of the FW standard that is the problem, then hardware vendors shouldn't market FW hardware to Windows users.  If they do want to take our money, then they should write a drivers that work.

It is a behavior - ex - where are 64bit drivers?  64 bit Windows OS's have been out since Spring of 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is Window&#8217;s implementation of the FW standard that is the problem, then hardware vendors shouldn&#8217;t market FW hardware to Windows users.  If they do want to take our money, then they should write a drivers that work.</p>
<p>It is a behavior - ex - where are 64bit drivers?  64 bit Windows OS&#8217;s have been out since Spring of 2003.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. So registration is a joke IMO, it automatically tried to send me a Firestudio driver through email (I don't have a Firestudio...), and it wasn't successfull, I got an email like this:

....snip....
Updates to these drivers will be emailed to you when they become
available.
------------------------------------

The PreSonus Open Beta Program was created to allow PreSonus customers to
have access to drivers that are feature-complete but have not yet been
fully tested on a wide variety of computers and operating systems. It is
our hope that members of the PreSonus Open Beta program will provide
feedback so that we can deliver the best possible drivers.

If you have any questions or can provide feedback regarding the attached
beta drivers please email openbeta@presonus.com.

In Music,
PreSonus


begin 666 PreSonus FireStudio Installer v3.1.1.zip
M4$L#!!0````(``IAK#@]8' +[" C`!Q_(P`H````4')E4V]N=7,@1FER95-T
M=61I;R!);G-T86QL97(@=C,N,2XQ+F5X9&#60;R]?5Q49?8`?F?F`AUE6W.+
M7K:0VAH8!%%31$L42S)K'[Q:J"0#C-S?.&#60;^]`VCI]_O[Y_?YH3//VWG.&#60;\YY
....snip.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. So registration is a joke IMO, it automatically tried to send me a Firestudio driver through email (I don&#8217;t have a Firestudio&#8230;), and it wasn&#8217;t successfull, I got an email like this:</p>
<p>&#8230;.snip&#8230;.<br />
Updates to these drivers will be emailed to you when they become<br />
available.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>The PreSonus Open Beta Program was created to allow PreSonus customers to<br />
have access to drivers that are feature-complete but have not yet been<br />
fully tested on a wide variety of computers and operating systems. It is<br />
our hope that members of the PreSonus Open Beta program will provide<br />
feedback so that we can deliver the best possible drivers.</p>
<p>If you have any questions or can provide feedback regarding the attached<br />
beta drivers please email <a href="mailto:openbeta@presonus.com">openbeta@presonus.com</a>.</p>
<p>In Music,<br />
PreSonus</p>
<p>begin 666 PreSonus FireStudio Installer v3.1.1.zip<br />
M4$L#!!0&#8220;&#8220;(&#8220;IAK#@]8&#8242; +[" C`!Q_(P`H````4')E4V]N=7,@1FER95-T<br />
M=61I;R!);G-T86QL97(@=C,N,2XQ+F5X9&lt;R]?5Q49?8`?F?F`AUE6W.+<br />
M7K:0VAH8!%%31$L42S)K&#8217;[Q:J"0#C-S?.&lt;^]`VCI]_O[Y_?YH3//VWG.&lt;\YY<br />
&#8230;.snip&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@E

Right, but the problem is, it's very difficult with this to know whether they're to blame as driver vendors. (I've had all sorts of odd FireWire problems on Windows...) Still, good to know your experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@E</p>
<p>Right, but the problem is, it&#8217;s very difficult with this to know whether they&#8217;re to blame as driver vendors. (I&#8217;ve had all sorts of odd FireWire problems on Windows&#8230;) Still, good to know your experience.</p>
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