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	<title>Comments on: Intua BeatMaker: Music Suite for iPhone and iPod Touch</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-544551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys have FREE BEATMAKER Kits!

Thought I'd give you lovely people the link...

&lt;b&gt;http://www.primeloops.com/beatmakersamples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys have FREE BEATMAKER Kits!</p>
<p>Thought I&#8217;d give you lovely people the link&#8230;</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.primeloops.com/beatmakersamples" rel="nofollow">http://www.primeloops.com/beatmakersamples</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-521520</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BeatMaker is now available on Apple AppStore gentlemen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BeatMaker is now available on Apple AppStore gentlemen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-504677</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dwic!

The first mobile version of Mixtikl will be for Windows Mobile; we're working on it right now!

With best wishes,

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dwic!</p>
<p>The first mobile version of Mixtikl will be for Windows Mobile; we&#8217;re working on it right now!</p>
<p>With best wishes,</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Emil</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-503910</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were developer @ pacemaker...I sure would have made an Apple appz release of the handheld pacemaker dj-tool, and developers @ Ableton should be busy with making the iphone-version, this goes for all appz-developers out there...even you KORG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were developer @ pacemaker&#8230;I sure would have made an Apple appz release of the handheld pacemaker dj-tool, and developers @ Ableton should be busy with making the iphone-version, this goes for all appz-developers out there&#8230;even you KORG!</p>
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		<title>By: Dwic</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-500816</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when are we gonna see this kind of stuff for Windows Mobile?  I'm still waiting for a Fruityloops port.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when are we gonna see this kind of stuff for Windows Mobile?  I&#8217;m still waiting for a Fruityloops port.</p>
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		<title>By: cubestar</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-497507</link>
		<dc:creator>cubestar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Peter, I think you are right to gauge your optimism with an eye toward Apple's penchant for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

Hopefully they will get their stuff together and do right by developers/users.

- One thing I wish for is an iPod Touch with a bit bigger screen, seems too small to be useful in some ways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Peter, I think you are right to gauge your optimism with an eye toward Apple&#8217;s penchant for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!</p>
<p>Hopefully they will get their stuff together and do right by developers/users.</p>
<p>- One thing I wish for is an iPod Touch with a bit bigger screen, seems too small to be useful in some ways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RichardL</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-496628</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be built using the official SDK to be sold through the App Store, which they claim it will. But then, who knows what they've been using so far? It's just a teaser at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be built using the official SDK to be sold through the App Store, which they claim it will. But then, who knows what they&#8217;ve been using so far? It&#8217;s just a teaser at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: newmiracle</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-496325</link>
		<dc:creator>newmiracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks too good to be true.  I have high hopes for this.  Hopefully there will be some demos/examples soon.

As an aside- was this developed with the offical SDK?  I wonder what kind of legal water you'd be in for 'selling' a product that required cracking your iPhone.  Has that been done, yet?  Not that I have a problem with it personally, but I could definetly see Apple not taking too kindly to that kind of activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks too good to be true.  I have high hopes for this.  Hopefully there will be some demos/examples soon.</p>
<p>As an aside- was this developed with the offical SDK?  I wonder what kind of legal water you&#8217;d be in for &#8217;selling&#8217; a product that required cracking your iPhone.  Has that been done, yet?  Not that I have a problem with it personally, but I could definetly see Apple not taking too kindly to that kind of activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Palm Sounds</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-496281</link>
		<dc:creator>Palm Sounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this is just the tip of the iceberg. Don't forget that the chaps over at intermorphic are working on their new application &lt;a&gt;Mixtikl&lt;/a&gt; which they hope to bring to the iPod Touch as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this is just the tip of the iceberg. Don&#8217;t forget that the chaps over at intermorphic are working on their new application <a>Mixtikl</a> which they hope to bring to the iPod Touch as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/08/intua-beatmaker-music-suite-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/#comment-496207</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RichardL: good points. I don't disagree, though the "rogue" development thing I think isn't about reaching a whole lot of users to sell software -- they're separate paths. And I see an awful lot of people around with jailbroken iPhones, so while they're not necessarily a viable commercial market, they're not nonexistent either. (It's not all guys, either. "Supergeeks", perhaps.)

I don't entirely buy the stable/accessible argument. I don't think Apple's store being the only outlet is about stability; it's clearly about control. It's Apple's prerogative to go that route, and maybe it will pay off -- and likewise, developers for other platforms (Windows Mobile, for instance), have complained about the *lack* of a store. It can make commercial sense. 

But, you know, ultimately it's whether you see this as a phone or a mobile computer. If you see it as the latter, then you see more open platforms.

My own bias is definitely toward open platforms; I'll be the first to admit. Then again, right now my main phone does far *less* than the iPhone, and I like it for that (thank you, Blackberry). And I think Palm and Blackberry, not Apple, still have the lion's share of installed "smart" user base. Their products are global, they cut across more demographics from what I can tell, and they have a popular appeal I think Apple *hasn't* yet achieved for all the hype --- yet. With the app platform, more carriers, that could change.

But really, all of this is theoretical until we have the next generation of Linux phones and the Android stack from Google in a shipping product. When that happens, there will be some competition to talk about, and I'm sure we'll find ups and downs on each side.

The developers are the platform, too, and they're migrating to Apple, which could mean more users down the road. If I were on the mobile Linux, mobile Java, and Android side of things, I'd be very nervous about Apple being first, given what happened with iPod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RichardL: good points. I don&#8217;t disagree, though the &#8220;rogue&#8221; development thing I think isn&#8217;t about reaching a whole lot of users to sell software &#8212; they&#8217;re separate paths. And I see an awful lot of people around with jailbroken iPhones, so while they&#8217;re not necessarily a viable commercial market, they&#8217;re not nonexistent either. (It&#8217;s not all guys, either. &#8220;Supergeeks&#8221;, perhaps.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t entirely buy the stable/accessible argument. I don&#8217;t think Apple&#8217;s store being the only outlet is about stability; it&#8217;s clearly about control. It&#8217;s Apple&#8217;s prerogative to go that route, and maybe it will pay off &#8212; and likewise, developers for other platforms (Windows Mobile, for instance), have complained about the *lack* of a store. It can make commercial sense. </p>
<p>But, you know, ultimately it&#8217;s whether you see this as a phone or a mobile computer. If you see it as the latter, then you see more open platforms.</p>
<p>My own bias is definitely toward open platforms; I&#8217;ll be the first to admit. Then again, right now my main phone does far *less* than the iPhone, and I like it for that (thank you, Blackberry). And I think Palm and Blackberry, not Apple, still have the lion&#8217;s share of installed &#8220;smart&#8221; user base. Their products are global, they cut across more demographics from what I can tell, and they have a popular appeal I think Apple *hasn&#8217;t* yet achieved for all the hype &#8212; yet. With the app platform, more carriers, that could change.</p>
<p>But really, all of this is theoretical until we have the next generation of Linux phones and the Android stack from Google in a shipping product. When that happens, there will be some competition to talk about, and I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll find ups and downs on each side.</p>
<p>The developers are the platform, too, and they&#8217;re migrating to Apple, which could mean more users down the road. If I were on the mobile Linux, mobile Java, and Android side of things, I&#8217;d be very nervous about Apple being first, given what happened with iPod.</p>
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