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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Recording: Alesis Hooks XLR Mics to iPod; Edirol R-09 Adds Storage; Tascam DR-1 Review</title>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Indamixx Laptop is First Pre-Configured Music Netbook, Running Linux, $499</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Indamixx Laptop is First Pre-Configured Music Netbook, Running Linux, $499</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you’re into netbooks. (And it’s the creation of Brad Linder, audiophile and NPR producer who occasionally checks in on mobile recording [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, Thanks for the roundup link, much appreciated.

I read about the monitor latency issue before I posted my question, but the first review I stumbled upon then said that it's indeed been addressed already. And yeah, I don't really expect or need a full XLR or 1/4" on a tiny portable recorder. What I'm actually looking for so far is a self-contained package that sounds fine without adding an external mic, pre and extra cables to tangle on. Sort of a one-piece scratchpad, but a good quality one. Seems like PMD620 or LS10 might fit the bill.

chris, Good to know. I'm still somewhat suspicious about that aspect though... The demo recordings I've found so far do sound a little too bass-light in comparison with other units. Have you been recording uncompressed audio or MP3 with the unit btw?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, Thanks for the roundup link, much appreciated.</p>
<p>I read about the monitor latency issue before I posted my question, but the first review I stumbled upon then said that it&#8217;s indeed been addressed already. And yeah, I don&#8217;t really expect or need a full XLR or 1/4&#8243; on a tiny portable recorder. What I&#8217;m actually looking for so far is a self-contained package that sounds fine without adding an external mic, pre and extra cables to tangle on. Sort of a one-piece scratchpad, but a good quality one. Seems like PMD620 or LS10 might fit the bill.</p>
<p>chris, Good to know. I&#8217;m still somewhat suspicious about that aspect though&#8230; The demo recordings I&#8217;ve found so far do sound a little too bass-light in comparison with other units. Have you been recording uncompressed audio or MP3 with the unit btw?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Linder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vack: By all accounts the PMD620 is a pretty good machine. The base price is a bit higher than the LS-10, but it's cheaper than the Sony PCM-D50.

The main problem with the PMD620 originally was that there was a latency issue when monitoring recordings through the headphones. But it sounds like Marantz fixed this with a firmware update. I haven't used one myself, but several reviewers have suggested that the Marantz has decent internal mics and excellent preamps for an external mic. Like most of these low end recorders, it lacks 1/4th inch or XLR inputs and relies on mini jacks though. One of the things I love about my Sony is that while it uses mini jacks, they're made of metal, not cheap plastic, which convinces me that they're less likely to break from wear and tear. 

I've rounded up a bunch of PMD620 reviews here:

http://www.bradlinder.net/2007/11/marantz-pmd620-review-roundup.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vack: By all accounts the PMD620 is a pretty good machine. The base price is a bit higher than the LS-10, but it&#8217;s cheaper than the Sony PCM-D50.</p>
<p>The main problem with the PMD620 originally was that there was a latency issue when monitoring recordings through the headphones. But it sounds like Marantz fixed this with a firmware update. I haven&#8217;t used one myself, but several reviewers have suggested that the Marantz has decent internal mics and excellent preamps for an external mic. Like most of these low end recorders, it lacks 1/4th inch or XLR inputs and relies on mini jacks though. One of the things I love about my Sony is that while it uses mini jacks, they&#8217;re made of metal, not cheap plastic, which convinces me that they&#8217;re less likely to break from wear and tear. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve rounded up a bunch of PMD620 reviews here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bradlinder.net/2007/11/marantz-pmd620-review-roundup.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bradlinder.net/2007/11/marantz-pmd620-review-roundup.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@vack, I haven't hit a problem with the ls-10 that a little EQ couldn't fix.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vack, I haven&#8217;t hit a problem with the ls-10 that a little EQ couldn&#8217;t fix.:)</p>
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		<title>By: vack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, how about Marantz PMD620 though? Has anyone got experiences on that one? The reviews seem to be kind of positive, the build quality and ergonomics don't look bad and it's practically the same price as LS-10. Any big catches anyone knows of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, how about Marantz PMD620 though? Has anyone got experiences on that one? The reviews seem to be kind of positive, the build quality and ergonomics don&#8217;t look bad and it&#8217;s practically the same price as LS-10. Any big catches anyone knows of?</p>
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		<title>By: vack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, Thanks for the comments. It does seem worthwhile to invest a bit more. H2 does look very nice otherwise but quite frankly the amount of hiss in demo recordings I've heard is kind of alarming. I would probably go for the Sony out of the current alternatives if I did radio production or sound design for living, but I (mostly) don't.

chris, The reported lower frequency thing is actually about the only thing that bugs me seriously in LS-10... The main uses I'd have for a device like that are:

1) A musical sketchpad, for recording little ideas with the built in mics wherever I am - this is obviously something that any working recorder could pull off.

2) Recording DJ sets and instruments on the go, straight via line in - some recorders seem to actually have weird noise or distortion problems even with normal line inputs, otherwise this isn't much to ask I guess.

3) For doing sort of ex tempore location and SFX stuff: recording ambiences, weird noises, rattles and bangs for sampling. This is where relatively high fidelity recording would actually be cool to have. Overly hissy mic/pre or a serious low frequency limit would kind of ruin it. Now, obviously to do this properly, one would need a good quality external pre and mic... But I could as well lug around my laptop, audio interface and DIY pre by then and spend time setting stuff up. Which is what I want to get away from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, Thanks for the comments. It does seem worthwhile to invest a bit more. H2 does look very nice otherwise but quite frankly the amount of hiss in demo recordings I&#8217;ve heard is kind of alarming. I would probably go for the Sony out of the current alternatives if I did radio production or sound design for living, but I (mostly) don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>chris, The reported lower frequency thing is actually about the only thing that bugs me seriously in LS-10&#8230; The main uses I&#8217;d have for a device like that are:</p>
<p>1) A musical sketchpad, for recording little ideas with the built in mics wherever I am - this is obviously something that any working recorder could pull off.</p>
<p>2) Recording DJ sets and instruments on the go, straight via line in - some recorders seem to actually have weird noise or distortion problems even with normal line inputs, otherwise this isn&#8217;t much to ask I guess.</p>
<p>3) For doing sort of ex tempore location and SFX stuff: recording ambiences, weird noises, rattles and bangs for sampling. This is where relatively high fidelity recording would actually be cool to have. Overly hissy mic/pre or a serious low frequency limit would kind of ruin it. Now, obviously to do this properly, one would need a good quality external pre and mic&#8230; But I could as well lug around my laptop, audio interface and DIY pre by then and spend time setting stuff up. Which is what I want to get away from.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/23/mobile-recording-alesis-hooks-xlr-mics-to-ipod-edirol-r-09-adds-storage-tascam-dr-1-review/#comment-506257</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an Olympus LS-10 and love it.  It doesn't feel cheap like the Zoom models and sounds very good.  Internal mics don't do a great job of picking up lower frequencies, even when set up properly - but overall good sound. Also allows for monitoring, which I find very useful. Unfortunately no XLR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Olympus LS-10 and love it.  It doesn&#8217;t feel cheap like the Zoom models and sounds very good.  Internal mics don&#8217;t do a great job of picking up lower frequencies, even when set up properly - but overall good sound. Also allows for monitoring, which I find very useful. Unfortunately no XLR.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Linder</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/06/23/mobile-recording-alesis-hooks-xlr-mics-to-ipod-edirol-r-09-adds-storage-tascam-dr-1-review/#comment-506086</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tapeleg: I'd say it all depends on how much Alesis decided to charge for this and how good the mics/preamps sound. If you've already got an iPod, this might be a good solution if the price is right. And while the internal mics in the Zoom H4 are pretty good, as Peter points out, the mic inputs are pretty lousy. Part of the reason I bought an H4 a while back was for the XLR inputs, but it turns out that just having XLR inputs does not a better sounding recorder make.

Vack: I haven't held an Olympus LS-10 in my own hands, but I've heard very positive things about it. Several folks who are using them for radio and podcast producing have spoken very highly of it and the audio quality sounds pretty good whether you're using the internal mics or an external. I'd say it's worth paying a few extra bucks for the LS-10 instead of the Zoom H2 which has hissy preamps. Overall I'm very happy with my Sony PCM-D50, but that costs about $200 US more than the Olympus recorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tapeleg: I&#8217;d say it all depends on how much Alesis decided to charge for this and how good the mics/preamps sound. If you&#8217;ve already got an iPod, this might be a good solution if the price is right. And while the internal mics in the Zoom H4 are pretty good, as Peter points out, the mic inputs are pretty lousy. Part of the reason I bought an H4 a while back was for the XLR inputs, but it turns out that just having XLR inputs does not a better sounding recorder make.</p>
<p>Vack: I haven&#8217;t held an Olympus LS-10 in my own hands, but I&#8217;ve heard very positive things about it. Several folks who are using them for radio and podcast producing have spoken very highly of it and the audio quality sounds pretty good whether you&#8217;re using the internal mics or an external. I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s worth paying a few extra bucks for the LS-10 instead of the Zoom H2 which has hissy preamps. Overall I&#8217;m very happy with my Sony PCM-D50, but that costs about $200 US more than the Olympus recorder.</p>
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		<title>By: vack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll have to add though that the Olympus LS-10 looks like something I could actually consider getting based on the specs and reviews I've seen... It's just not too cheap in EU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to add though that the Olympus LS-10 looks like something I could actually consider getting based on the specs and reviews I&#8217;ve seen&#8230; It&#8217;s just not too cheap in EU.</p>
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		<title>By: vack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been trying to browse reviews and comments about the portable recorders lately since I'd currently very much like to have one handy for various stuff. There are just so many choices and basically all of them (at least all of the ones that might fit my budget) seem to have some kinds of weird quirks or tradeoffs. 

I guess that's just what happens when you try to cram big amount of stuff to a tiny space and do it for cheap. Have to continue reading and asking questions while I'm not in a hurry to get anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to browse reviews and comments about the portable recorders lately since I&#8217;d currently very much like to have one handy for various stuff. There are just so many choices and basically all of them (at least all of the ones that might fit my budget) seem to have some kinds of weird quirks or tradeoffs. </p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s just what happens when you try to cram big amount of stuff to a tiny space and do it for cheap. Have to continue reading and asking questions while I&#8217;m not in a hurry to get anything.</p>
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