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	<title>Comments on: Ligeti&#8217;s Artikulation: What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like? (Plus Twitter Finds)</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/04/ligetis-artikulation-what-might-future-digital-notation-look-like-plus-twitter-finds/comment-page-1/#comment-541187</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://audiosculptures.com/sculpures.html&quot; title=&quot;http://audiosculptures.com/sculptures.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://audiosculptures.com/sculptures.html&lt;/a&gt; for another take on visual score experimentation.  The &quot;sculptures&quot; (as I call them) are created in CAD and the audio is generated directly from the drawing, making it something of a wysiwyg sequencer.  An OSS standalone version of the AutoCAD plugin is in the works.

Regards,
Andy F.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://audiosculptures.com/sculpures.html" title="http://audiosculptures.com/sculptures.html" rel="nofollow">http://audiosculptures.com/sculptures.html</a> for another take on visual score experimentation.  The &#8220;sculptures&#8221; (as I call them) are created in CAD and the audio is generated directly from the drawing, making it something of a wysiwyg sequencer.  An OSS standalone version of the AutoCAD plugin is in the works.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Andy F.</p>
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		<title>By: GraphicalScores.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Artikulation</title>
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		<dc:creator>GraphicalScores.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Artikulation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A graphical score created afterwards : here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A graphical score created afterwards : here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fairbanks: That&#039;s correct, as the post states. The scores weren&#039;t even created by Ligeti; they came from Rainer Wehinger. Of course, Ligeti himself has some interesting scores for instruments. But that&#039;s my whole point; electronic music doesn&#039;t have the same need for a score to function as a template for performers, necessarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fairbanks: That&#8217;s correct, as the post states. The scores weren&#8217;t even created by Ligeti; they came from Rainer Wehinger. Of course, Ligeti himself has some interesting scores for instruments. But that&#8217;s my whole point; electronic music doesn&#8217;t have the same need for a score to function as a template for performers, necessarily.</p>
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		<title>By: fairbanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>fairbanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ligeti made the scores AFTER the pieces were finished. 

These scores were not intended as templates for recreating the music in performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ligeti made the scores AFTER the pieces were finished. </p>
<p>These scores were not intended as templates for recreating the music in performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Inzs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inzs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have the book and the LP at home.. It also features af description of every sound..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have the book and the LP at home.. It also features af description of every sound..</p>
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		<title>By: beatfix</title>
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		<dc:creator>beatfix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a fancier version of the Music Animation Machine:
http://www.musanim.com/

One quibble - I prefer it when the notation scrolls forward instead of paging - that way you can follow the visual flow a bit more seamlessly.  On the plus side, I like the expressiveness of the shapes quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a fancier version of the Music Animation Machine:<br />
<a href="http://www.musanim.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.musanim.com/</a></p>
<p>One quibble &#8211; I prefer it when the notation scrolls forward instead of paging &#8211; that way you can follow the visual flow a bit more seamlessly.  On the plus side, I like the expressiveness of the shapes quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric beat me to it! Pd&#039;s data structure scheme is quite interesting, there is a good example out there by one of the Pd users that has an .mp3 along with the picture of the data structure used to control it - i&#039;ll see if i can find the link.
one thing that i&#039;ve always wanted to see (although it couldn&#039;t really exist in paper form, only digital) is some sort of 3d notation, layering different instruments or perhaps orchestral sections over each other (i think this would be an amazing way to check out classical music compositions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric beat me to it! Pd&#8217;s data structure scheme is quite interesting, there is a good example out there by one of the Pd users that has an .mp3 along with the picture of the data structure used to control it &#8211; i&#8217;ll see if i can find the link.<br />
one thing that i&#8217;ve always wanted to see (although it couldn&#8217;t really exist in paper form, only digital) is some sort of 3d notation, layering different instruments or perhaps orchestral sections over each other (i think this would be an amazing way to check out classical music compositions)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure Data&#039;s eponymous &quot;data structures&quot; and template mechanism are a step in this direction for sequencing:

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s9

sorry if it&#039;s already been mentioned :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure Data&#8217;s eponymous &#8220;data structures&#8221; and template mechanism are a step in this direction for sequencing:</p>
<p><a href="http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s9" rel="nofollow">http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s9</a></p>
<p>sorry if it&#8217;s already been mentioned :)</p>
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		<title>By: analogueak</title>
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		<dc:creator>analogueak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>consider that people also hear things differently depending on what they&#039;ve experienced, musical or otherwise. it seems there&#039;s a point where the listener can &quot;look ahead&quot; and at least know there&#039;s something coming shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>consider that people also hear things differently depending on what they&#8217;ve experienced, musical or otherwise. it seems there&#8217;s a point where the listener can &#8220;look ahead&#8221; and at least know there&#8217;s something coming shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Senderowitsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Senderowitsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an experience with a contrabass player who has to play along with an electroacoustic piece I wrote. It was helpful to him to have the graphical notacion of the events of the track to keep on tempo and expression. You can see the score in www.myspace.com/alansende.

Best from Argentina!

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an experience with a contrabass player who has to play along with an electroacoustic piece I wrote. It was helpful to him to have the graphical notacion of the events of the track to keep on tempo and expression. You can see the score in <a href="http://www.myspace.com/alansende" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/alansende</a>.</p>
<p>Best from Argentina!</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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