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	<title>Comments on: Pioneering Composer Paul Lansky Quits Electronic Music</title>
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		<title>By: stevesg</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevesg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This presumed dichotomy is idiotic!

painting=representative creation of light
media: oil, watercolor, charcoal, graphite...

music=representative creation of sound
media: violin, orchestra, theremin, computer, hollow log....

artemotion..media independent 

ssg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This presumed dichotomy is idiotic!</p>
<p>painting=representative creation of light<br />
media: oil, watercolor, charcoal, graphite&#8230;</p>
<p>music=representative creation of sound<br />
media: violin, orchestra, theremin, computer, hollow log&#8230;.</p>
<p>artemotion..media independent </p>
<p>ssg</p>
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		<title>By: Jimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ben: while technically true, that fact is useless to the discussion. The fact remains that &#039;electronic&#039; music for all intents and purposes means that it was MADE using electronic, (or digital) means, as opposed to acoustic or electro-acoustic (in the sense of electronic pickup of acoustic vibrations a la electric guitar).

Regarding the subject, I&#039;ve also felt the pull of simpler instruments that can ONLY be used as instruments. Something about the endless choices and the possibility of distractions (not to mention gearheadism) makes it hard sometimes to actually make music with a computer for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben: while technically true, that fact is useless to the discussion. The fact remains that &#8216;electronic&#8217; music for all intents and purposes means that it was MADE using electronic, (or digital) means, as opposed to acoustic or electro-acoustic (in the sense of electronic pickup of acoustic vibrations a la electric guitar).</p>
<p>Regarding the subject, I&#8217;ve also felt the pull of simpler instruments that can ONLY be used as instruments. Something about the endless choices and the possibility of distractions (not to mention gearheadism) makes it hard sometimes to actually make music with a computer for me.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>once it hits the microphone its electronic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once it hits the microphone its electronic</p>
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		<title>By: proem</title>
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		<dc:creator>proem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>press conference: i am fasting from air. i will breath only oxygen rich fluid.

who hasn&#039;t seen the abyss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>press conference: i am fasting from air. i will breath only oxygen rich fluid.</p>
<p>who hasn&#8217;t seen the abyss?</p>
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		<title>By: DooKoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DooKoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making a statement in a NYT interview IS a public announcement. But I&#039;ve heard Lansky saying this same thing for a couple of years now.  The NYT interview is just to promote his new album.

And to be fair, you did give it the headline: &quot;Pioneering Composer Paul Lansky Quits Electronic Music&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making a statement in a NYT interview IS a public announcement. But I&#8217;ve heard Lansky saying this same thing for a couple of years now.  The NYT interview is just to promote his new album.</p>
<p>And to be fair, you did give it the headline: &#8220;Pioneering Composer Paul Lansky Quits Electronic Music&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in Lansky&#039;s defense, I&#039;m not sure he intended this to be a public event, though that would have been hilarious.

Press conference: Paul Lansky is retiring from electronic music. Says he will focus on acoustic music. 

It may have been the NYT author who chose this angle. But it is interesting to me, as always, to see how artists do choose to focus over time. You know, on a personal level, I think it&#039;s fine -- just as it&#039;s fine to focus on writing choral music and stop taking orchestral commissions, or break up the band and keep the duo going, or whatever it happens to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in Lansky&#8217;s defense, I&#8217;m not sure he intended this to be a public event, though that would have been hilarious.</p>
<p>Press conference: Paul Lansky is retiring from electronic music. Says he will focus on acoustic music. </p>
<p>It may have been the NYT author who chose this angle. But it is interesting to me, as always, to see how artists do choose to focus over time. You know, on a personal level, I think it&#8217;s fine &#8212; just as it&#8217;s fine to focus on writing choral music and stop taking orchestral commissions, or break up the band and keep the duo going, or whatever it happens to be.</p>
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		<title>By: DooKoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DooKoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have great respect for Lansky&#039;s music, but I don&#039;t understand why he finds it necessary to make it into a public &#039;pronouncement&#039; (nor do I understand why I should care--I don&#039;t mean that disrespectfully because I AM interested in hearing his next piece...I just don&#039;t see the point in making public pronouncements about the kind of aesthetic decisions that composers make every time they begin a new piece).  

When I want to write acoustic music, I just do it.  When I want to create electronic music, I just do it.  Same for when I want to combine the two.  If all I had at my disposal was a stick and rock, I would make music with THAT.   When I discover or rediscover a way of making music, I go through the same feeling of &#039;rebirth&#039; or starting anew that he describes.  It happens every few years (not just once in a career).

To quote: &quot;To create the sound of a violin - wow!&quot; he said in a recent interview. &quot;I canâ€™t do that on a computer.&quot;  A computer is NOT analogous to a violin or any other instrument,  It&#039;s a brain-magnifier! (in a way that none of our previous tools have been).  Lansky&#039;s computer pieces are clearly NOT attempts to imitate acoustic instruments...they are more like transformations of everyday sounds into music...so I don&#039;t buy this particular argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have great respect for Lansky&#8217;s music, but I don&#8217;t understand why he finds it necessary to make it into a public &#8216;pronouncement&#8217; (nor do I understand why I should care&#8211;I don&#8217;t mean that disrespectfully because I AM interested in hearing his next piece&#8230;I just don&#8217;t see the point in making public pronouncements about the kind of aesthetic decisions that composers make every time they begin a new piece).  </p>
<p>When I want to write acoustic music, I just do it.  When I want to create electronic music, I just do it.  Same for when I want to combine the two.  If all I had at my disposal was a stick and rock, I would make music with THAT.   When I discover or rediscover a way of making music, I go through the same feeling of &#8216;rebirth&#8217; or starting anew that he describes.  It happens every few years (not just once in a career).</p>
<p>To quote: &#8220;To create the sound of a violin &#8211; wow!&#8221; he said in a recent interview. &#8220;I canâ€™t do that on a computer.&#8221;  A computer is NOT analogous to a violin or any other instrument,  It&#8217;s a brain-magnifier! (in a way that none of our previous tools have been).  Lansky&#8217;s computer pieces are clearly NOT attempts to imitate acoustic instruments&#8230;they are more like transformations of everyday sounds into music&#8230;so I don&#8217;t buy this particular argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Caceres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Caceres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A common problem with new media is to look at it through the mindset of an older media. For example looking at mp3s as if they are cds, looking at new video game systems as if they are NES, or looking at electronic music as if it is supposed to be tradition composed music. Even though an early pioneer has lost interest in his idea of electronic music, does not mean at all that electronic music is no longer interesting. His lack of interest could perhaps embody the collective progression for viewing electronic music as eccentric traditional composed music to a more modern approach towards electronic music that is not boxed into this standard.

Perhaps this is not even an issue to us, the younger generation, because we do not have such a distinction between &#039;natural&#039; and &#039;electronic&#039;. We have grown up with computers, sequencers, synthesizers, cds, mp3 players, etc. We are not in a position to abandon electronics and retreat to &#039;natural&#039; means, because it is natural for us to incorporate both into our lives and creativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common problem with new media is to look at it through the mindset of an older media. For example looking at mp3s as if they are cds, looking at new video game systems as if they are NES, or looking at electronic music as if it is supposed to be tradition composed music. Even though an early pioneer has lost interest in his idea of electronic music, does not mean at all that electronic music is no longer interesting. His lack of interest could perhaps embody the collective progression for viewing electronic music as eccentric traditional composed music to a more modern approach towards electronic music that is not boxed into this standard.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is not even an issue to us, the younger generation, because we do not have such a distinction between &#8216;natural&#8217; and &#8216;electronic&#8217;. We have grown up with computers, sequencers, synthesizers, cds, mp3 players, etc. We are not in a position to abandon electronics and retreat to &#8216;natural&#8217; means, because it is natural for us to incorporate both into our lives and creativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Lainhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Lainhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a curious article, and Lansky makes some curious statements. First, he&#039;s been composing instrumental music all along, going back to the 60s - writing for string quartet and piano is nothing new for him. Second, I have to question his statement &quot;I basically don&#039;t like electronic music. I like to compose it. I&#039;m just not a big fan of it.&quot; That just seems absurd to me - if you don&#039;t like it, why compose it?

I&#039;ve heard a lot of his music over the years, and I have to say I&#039;ve always found his electronic music much more interesting, innovative, and sonically alive than his instrumental music, much of which just sounds derivative to me. He&#039;s a true pioneer of computer music, and has composed some of the classics of the genre. And I think he has a real ear for creative sound that I don&#039;t hear in his instrumental work, which is just about the notes and not the sound at all.

To me, that&#039;s the difference between electronic music and instrumental music - electronic music is about the sounds, and electronic music is about the notes. (That&#039;s a simplification, of course, but basically that&#039;s how I see it.) The reason I got into electronic music in the first place was to make my own sounds, and to be able to create and hear my own music, instead of leaving it up to others. (I&#039;ve written instrumental music too, although not a lot, and I certainly don&#039;t think I have much more to say with the same sets of notes that hasn&#039;t already been said a thousand times.)

If he&#039;s serious about not creating electronic music any more, I think it&#039;s a real shame, because I don&#039;t think his instrumental music is going to fill the gap created by the loss of his beautiful sounds. If his concern is that instrumental music is superior because it&#039;s performable and interpretable whereas electronic music isn&#039;t, well, we all know that if that once was the case, it certainly isn&#039;t now. 

And the thing I particularly object to in this whole matter is that somehow Lansky&#039;s declaration is seen as a blow against the whole practice of electronic music composition and a validation of instrumental composition, whereas I think electronic music is more valid, active, and creative now than ever, and will continue to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a curious article, and Lansky makes some curious statements. First, he&#8217;s been composing instrumental music all along, going back to the 60s &#8211; writing for string quartet and piano is nothing new for him. Second, I have to question his statement &#8220;I basically don&#8217;t like electronic music. I like to compose it. I&#8217;m just not a big fan of it.&#8221; That just seems absurd to me &#8211; if you don&#8217;t like it, why compose it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot of his music over the years, and I have to say I&#8217;ve always found his electronic music much more interesting, innovative, and sonically alive than his instrumental music, much of which just sounds derivative to me. He&#8217;s a true pioneer of computer music, and has composed some of the classics of the genre. And I think he has a real ear for creative sound that I don&#8217;t hear in his instrumental work, which is just about the notes and not the sound at all.</p>
<p>To me, that&#8217;s the difference between electronic music and instrumental music &#8211; electronic music is about the sounds, and electronic music is about the notes. (That&#8217;s a simplification, of course, but basically that&#8217;s how I see it.) The reason I got into electronic music in the first place was to make my own sounds, and to be able to create and hear my own music, instead of leaving it up to others. (I&#8217;ve written instrumental music too, although not a lot, and I certainly don&#8217;t think I have much more to say with the same sets of notes that hasn&#8217;t already been said a thousand times.)</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s serious about not creating electronic music any more, I think it&#8217;s a real shame, because I don&#8217;t think his instrumental music is going to fill the gap created by the loss of his beautiful sounds. If his concern is that instrumental music is superior because it&#8217;s performable and interpretable whereas electronic music isn&#8217;t, well, we all know that if that once was the case, it certainly isn&#8217;t now. </p>
<p>And the thing I particularly object to in this whole matter is that somehow Lansky&#8217;s declaration is seen as a blow against the whole practice of electronic music composition and a validation of instrumental composition, whereas I think electronic music is more valid, active, and creative now than ever, and will continue to be.</p>
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		<title>By: vÄ“er</title>
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		<dc:creator>vÄ“er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much respect to him for that, i mean, nothing really can beat &quot;real&quot; instruments, i think its every e-musicians hidden dream to be able to make fancy &quot;electro-ish&quot; track with live tools only and play it live :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much respect to him for that, i mean, nothing really can beat &#8220;real&#8221; instruments, i think its every e-musicians hidden dream to be able to make fancy &#8220;electro-ish&#8221; track with live tools only and play it live :)</p>
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