Comments on: iPhone News: iDrum, BtBx In; Mixtikl Out Citing Apple Rules

By: Create Digital Music » Intermorphic Mixtikl Arrives: Mobile and Desktop Generative, Creative Music Suite

Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:01:40 +0000

[...] good to hear the iPhone is back on the list after some doubts from Intermorphic earlier this year. (Apple easing up on restrictions may have helped!) The Intermorphic crowd note [...]

By: Art Gillespie

Art Gillespie — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:15 +0000

@Tim check out ‘app groups’ — I believe this allows apps to share data. FNDA!

@DJ Condra, Thanks! But I can’t take credit, I just stand around going ‘not fun enough!’ or ‘wrong typeface!’ while the amazing guys at iZotope do all the heavy lifting. :)

So as promised, iDrum 1.64 is out. Roundtrip editing :) Grab it from http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/

By: DJ Condra

DJ Condra — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:50:42 +0000

@ Art Gillespie. I just installed iDrum on my iPhone and this is the most fun I have had in a long time. I very much hope you continue developing for iPhone. I would gladly pay 30-50 bucks for a more advanced version of iDrum. Keep up the good work.

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:39:20 +0000

@Art - The use case behind this is as simple as:

1. Install app 1
2. install app 2, which is complementary to app 1 (e.g. part of a suite, or maybe even just a media pack for app 1)
3. If this were done on e.g. Windows Mobile, then app 1 and app 2 can both see/share share each others data….

If you’re thinking of standalone tools or games, then this is not an issue. If you’re thinking of suites of cooperative tools and/or media packs, then this is a big issue.

Anyhow, HTH!

By: Art Gillespie

Art Gillespie — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:31:31 +0000

@Tim We have no access to unpublished APIs (as for undocumented, well, heh, that covers about half the SDK, doesn’t it ;)) The Core Audio team did work with us on getting a few requested features into RemoteIO during the SDK beta, though. (Doubt we were alone in that, Band, Intua, etc. *must* have needed the same things we did.) But as far as sandboxing goes, no, we have no workaround for that. Why would a music app need to bypass its sandbox?

@Ted This is my fault… the version of iDrum for the desktop that allows this is not yet available to the public. I’m told any day.

I’ll post a comment here as soon as it’s available.

@velocipede Konnichiwa!

By: velocipede

velocipede — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:02:04 +0000

That’s great news, Art! iDrum on an iPod is a match made in heaven.
Aaron

By: Ted

Ted — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:53:33 +0000

How do you take a pattern you’ve made on the iPhone version of iDrum and bring it into the desktop version of iDrum? I looked at the documentation on iZotope’s website, but could only find information on the ringtone sharing. If you can really create beats on the iPhone while riding the subway, and then pull them into iDrum to use more power on them, that would be FABULOUS! I’d buy it sight unseen! (BTW, just got the desktop version of iDrum last week and am loving it with my Axiom 25.)

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:31:31 +0000

@Art - iDrum sounds cool Art, good one! NB: How did you get access from Apple to a not-yet-documented feature or API? Would that API solve the sandbox issue for other developers? If so, excellent news… Intermorphic was not being tough on Apple, just raising some issues we face and which we cannot talk about or ask others about. Which does not make doing something any easier… We would still love to get Mixtikl on iPhone one day :).
@Peter - Yes, we will see how it goes with Windows Mobile and Symbian, and it is early days. There have been many music apps come and go for all platforms, so it is a difficult space. Apple is doing something right to get that level of app downloads, and maybe it is because they are getting behind apps in a way that the others have not yet seemed to (whether that is channel, marketing, hype, operator, device, single manufacturere or other or all related) but who knows. Whatever it is, it seems to be working in that it is getting news and attention.

By: Create Digital Music » Correction: iDrum Mobile / Desktop Editions Work Together

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:23:33 +0000

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By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:22:36 +0000

@Art: No worries. Hey, we’re not in politics, we’re in technology — it usually involves contradictions.

Bottom line: awesome device, if not for everyone, but the gag rules are causing some real damage. And the one thing the iPhone/touch skeptics and believers seem to agree upon is that the platform would be better with that NDA lifted.