Comments on: A Brief History of the MPC in Video, by Current TV http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:18:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: DE:BUG MUSIKTECHNIK » Video: Kurze Geschichte der MPC http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-562362 DE:BUG MUSIKTECHNIK » Video: Kurze Geschichte der MPC Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:38:49 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-562362 [...] CDM Auch [...] [...] CDM Auch [...]

]]> By: popo http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554947 popo Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:16:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554947 I like phat beats LMAO!!! I like phat beats LMAO!!!

]]> By: Beep http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554902 Beep Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:33:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554902 i have an mpc2000 (no, not the XL) with an external dinosaur-scsi-HD. It kicks SO mcuh ass, because its a workflow that is kinda tricky but that way it leads to pretty astounding musical stuff. i use the 3/ quantize function a lot, it has a weird groove. on the other hand i DONT wanna miss and instrument, because if you make a bassline on an MPC its fine, but if you get to strings or multisamples, look elsewhere. so i plug my MPC into ableton, sync it and im SO happy with that solution. i can make a phat bassline with a softsynth and put some piano on it. an MPC2000 is really cheap, you get one for about 400€ on ebay. dont forget the effects board! a cheap laptop with ableton and some midi cables and you rock it. this guy in the video is using an mpc1000. it has timestreching. oh come on... fudgemunk rocks. :) i have an mpc2000 (no, not the XL) with an external dinosaur-scsi-HD. It kicks SO mcuh ass, because its a workflow that is kinda tricky but that way it leads to pretty astounding musical stuff.
i use the 3/ quantize function a lot, it has a weird groove.
on the other hand i DONT wanna miss and instrument, because if you make a bassline on an MPC its fine, but if you get to strings or multisamples, look elsewhere. so i plug my MPC into ableton, sync it and im SO happy with that solution. i can make a phat bassline with a softsynth and put some piano on it.
an MPC2000 is really cheap, you get one for about 400€ on ebay. dont forget the effects board! a cheap laptop with ableton and some midi cables and you rock it. this guy in the video is using an mpc1000. it has timestreching. oh come on… fudgemunk rocks. :)

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554731 Peter Kirn Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:07:36 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554731 And that last comment came from the Master of a Thousand Plug-ins, so you see, we can all give up some Respect, either dedicated hardware or computer. (They're all really computers, after all, taking different forms...) And that last comment came from the Master of a Thousand Plug-ins, so you see, we can all give up some Respect, either dedicated hardware or computer. (They’re all really computers, after all, taking different forms…)

]]> By: Adrian Anders http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554719 Adrian Anders Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:01:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554719 It all depends on how you use an MPC folks! If you're making stock quantized beats with zero swing then yea, the MPC is pretty dated compared to Live. However, when it comes to the swing as well as the unquantized hardware-grade PPQ resolution, nothing can beat the classic sampling beatbox! Furthermore there's something to be said of the UI and workflow of the unit itself. Some folks just work better under a few limitations. ATA It all depends on how you use an MPC folks! If you’re making stock quantized beats with zero swing then yea, the MPC is pretty dated compared to Live.

However, when it comes to the swing as well as the unquantized hardware-grade PPQ resolution, nothing can beat the classic sampling beatbox!

Furthermore there’s something to be said of the UI and workflow of the unit itself. Some folks just work better under a few limitations.

ATA

]]> By: usedtobe http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554707 usedtobe Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:52:46 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554707 I'm with you regend.I used an mpc for a long time, possibly for the wrong reasons, then realized that ableton live and a controller you're comfortable with make the mpc seem really impractical by comparison. what would take me hours to do on the mpc is done in minutes in live. people could argue with the sound quality, but only when you're talking about the 12 bit samplers(i use a mirage for that spice!) that said, there's nothing like holding a big metal box, gliding across all the loose buttons and funky wheels, and making music with it. makes sample playback more like an instrument, as opposed to drawing in sequences on a computer, which can sometimes leave me pretty detached. plus.. music production center? you mean they didn't read the front of the machine? silly I’m with you regend.I used an mpc for a long time, possibly for the wrong reasons, then realized that ableton live and a controller you’re comfortable with make the mpc seem really impractical by comparison. what would take me hours to do on the mpc is done in minutes in live. people could argue with the sound quality, but only when you’re talking about the 12 bit samplers(i use a mirage for that spice!)
that said, there’s nothing like holding a big metal box, gliding across all the loose buttons and funky wheels, and making music with it. makes sample playback more like an instrument, as opposed to drawing in sequences on a computer, which can sometimes leave me pretty detached.

plus.. music production center? you mean they didn’t read the front of the machine? silly

]]> By: regend http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554650 regend Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:02:16 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554650 i think that there's some key things missing from this video. One being that there are HUGE differences between models (12 bit vs. 16 bit, sampling engines, memory capacity, stereo sampling, effects, SMPTE)of the MPC that those interviewed don't seem to understand. They are all things that Roger Linn introduced to the original design and creation of the original designs of the mpc60, mpc60 II, and MPC3000. The mpc 2000/1000 that are seen in the video, are not Roger Linn approved units. Peter is right though...this is more how one box(regardless of flavor)has changed the way musicians approach music. MPC's have always been out of reach for me because of price. What was more affordable before the current crop of gear was an S900 and a hardware sequencer...the S900 had a similar sampling engine to the original mpc60 and of course MSDOS sequencers later were fun to play with. Later it was an S3000 with Logic on a PC. Today however my choice is Ableton Live 7, a M-Audio Trigger Finger, a decent USB/Firewire audio box and a cheap laptop. IMHO this destroys an MPC. I just go tused to having all the components separate instead of an all in a box solution. i think that there’s some key things missing from this video.

One being that there are HUGE differences between models (12 bit vs. 16 bit, sampling engines, memory capacity, stereo sampling, effects, SMPTE)of the MPC that those interviewed don’t seem to understand. They are all things that Roger Linn introduced to the original design and creation of the original designs of the mpc60, mpc60 II, and MPC3000.

The mpc 2000/1000 that are seen in the video, are not Roger Linn approved units.

Peter is right though…this is more how one box(regardless of flavor)has changed the way musicians approach music.

MPC’s have always been out of reach for me because of price. What was more affordable before the current crop of gear was an S900 and a hardware sequencer…the S900 had a similar sampling engine to the original mpc60 and of course MSDOS sequencers later were fun to play with. Later it was an S3000 with Logic on a PC.

Today however my choice is Ableton Live 7, a M-Audio Trigger Finger, a decent USB/Firewire audio box and a cheap laptop. IMHO this destroys an MPC. I just go tused to having all the components separate instead of an all in a box solution.

]]> By: bliss http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554622 bliss Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:41:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554622 PK, that was pretty cool! Nothing that I didn't already know about the MPC -- but it was refreshing to hear people referring to it as a musical instrument, rather than the usual, a studio production tool. It's both and that's what made its reputation among those who create sample based music. Cool clip! PK, that was pretty cool! Nothing that I didn’t already know about the MPC — but it was refreshing to hear people referring to it as a musical instrument, rather than the usual, a studio production tool. It’s both and that’s what made its reputation among those who create sample based music. Cool clip!

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554477 Peter Kirn Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:36:59 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554477 @Doepfer77: Shame, really? Just to be clear, I didn't shoot the thing. It does remind me, I hope to go back and talk to Roger, particularly with the LinnDrum II coming out. And while I'm not anything approaching an MPC person, I do find it interesting talking to the people who are... <a href="http://www.thevacationist.net/" rel="nofollow">Gregory Shiff</a> here in NYC has worked out an insane workflow that's equal parts Ableton Live and MPC that I really appreciate it. So I guess the message is I'd better rig up my DIY steadicam and go shoot some things. ;) @Doepfer77: Shame, really? Just to be clear, I didn’t shoot the thing.

It does remind me, I hope to go back and talk to Roger, particularly with the LinnDrum II coming out.

And while I’m not anything approaching an MPC person, I do find it interesting talking to the people who are… Gregory Shiff here in NYC has worked out an insane workflow that’s equal parts Ableton Live and MPC that I really appreciate it.

So I guess the message is I’d better rig up my DIY steadicam and go shoot some things. ;)

]]> By: gbsr http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554414 gbsr Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:32:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/14/a-brief-history-of-the-mpc-in-video-by-current-tv/#comment-554414 really. it makes him feel cool. really.
it makes him feel cool.

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