For me it’s all about including new technologies to your sets. And it’s great.

I have an Xone 3D and I’m actually testing both Traktor and Live, as an early vinyl dj.

I don’t feel any trouble to play with all this differents things.

The main problem of Traktor is HEAVY Sync bugs due to its problem of detecting the tracks BPM with efficiency.

And also the incredible mistake that makes the decks sync by pair, A with B and C with. If you want to sync C with A, it bugging as hell…

SO, for me, the technology is not ready yet, and it’s ridiculous to have these kind of, not 100% efficient tools. you still to make compromise, because there is no solid solution….a shame in 2008 imo.

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Hawtin is looking toward a more creative DJ future (and so he should), utilizing certain types of technology to his needs, and as a means to his ‘end, whether complex or not (should this matter?). In a few years he may find something more exciting and innovative (innovative to him at the very least).

After being a dj a few years back, i appreciate that he and (dj) others are approaching technology more conceptually and creatively. It hopefully will get ALOT of other dj’s thinking outside the box, as there are plenty stuck in the box.

It might not be live coding or live ‘electronics’ (electronics in the way that ‘guys’ who are using language applications built in max/msp or supercollider combined with sensors/hacked toys/game controllers/3d visuals and other complex devices – does that make them any better?? more innovative you may say) but its all a means to a sonic ‘end’…. And it depends what sonic ‘end’ your after, at that particular time.

I’m not agree with you.

You can’t really compare Live and Traktor for DJing. Yes, you can DJ with Live but you have to make a lot of work before (create all the loop, sync all the track etc). In traktor you do that in real time, you don’t have to think about that.

I’m also very surprised about the “sync push button” reaction. I think people don’t understand the real deal here. Syncing vinyls is not a big deal, it’s a technical skill you can learn in 5 minutes. It’s not the more important thing in a mix. The more important thing is playing with the sound, how and what you will combine in your set. It’s the real talent !

4 deck mixing is a new edge. DJ are not any more DJ, but real time remixer/composer as well. It’s no more about sync mixing, fade in, fade out, and all this kind of thing, it’s creating new track live !

Carl Cox and Jeff Mills are well knowed 4 deck vinyls players. But when they do that, they are focused on keeping all the deck in sync. They can’t really create repetition, loop, new track…

Sync is a tool, combine sound/FX/track/loop is creativity. I don’t care if a DJ use automatic sync, but he have to be good :)

One person’s poison is another person’s wine. I think it’s a hot-in.

Here’s my thing — anyone I talk to, I’m going to talk to as a musician. I’m not really qualified to make grander sweeping judgments of the history of music or who invented what. I’d rather talk to people as individuals independent of all that anyway. That’s not to say it’s not important — I think it is. But if I talk to someone, I would hope to avoid any favoritism, and certainly I’m just as interested in people who are completely obscure as those who’ve made a name; I’m not going to discriminate against either one.

Now, maybe there is some nasty politics going on here; I could believe that. I just assure you, my own part is significantly random.

As for the computer technology, Richie and others had a hand in its development, so I don’t think you can blame them for being attached to it. But then, that’s the point — you do have to distinguish between the technology and the music. Whereas the stated mission of this site is using the technology as a window into the music, I don’t think tech is ever the whole picture.

And then there’s the bit of bitterness that espouses that the Detroit cats received more fame and riches when in fact they ripped their ideas from the Chicago scene.

Totally false… The Detroit cats didn’t rip their ideas from the Chicago scene, the Detroit cats where a part of the Chicago scene! Derrick May and Juan Atkins where living in Chicago and a part of the house scene from the very beginning. Juan Atkins sold Frankie Knuckles his first 909. Juan Atkins and Derrick may would be considered important figures in the early Chicago scene, except of course that they invented Techno and that overshadowed their significance to House music.

Saying that Detroit ripped of Chicago is kind of like saying New Order ripped off Joy Division.

Which is beside the point that Chicago House music was way more popular than Detroit Techno… if the Detroit guys made more money than the Chicago guys (I don’t know if they did), it was because they where better businessmen. The Chicago guys and Detroit guys were black, so it isn’t like there was racial favoritism like there is with Hawtin.