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	<title>Comments on: Pro Tools 8 Announced: New UI, More MIDI, Elastic Pitch, Bundled Instruments and Effects, Integrated Sibelius Notation</title>
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		<title>By: DawkieDawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>DawkieDawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Protools 8 Le or M - Midi is ok - Limited hardware choices etc they take their time with releases and when they do put in new technology it works like it should it&#039;s gettin better on the LE and Powered technology Front
Like a classic beauty she gets away with wearing very little make up cos she has such good jeans (Spelling intended)

Logic 8 - The Audios ok rest is all good - Mac only You could get to like this Gal Hey its a apple take a bite if your willing to pay the hardware price But the software is nice.
shes had an extreme makeover looks hotter yet is some how more friendly 

Cubase 5 – Not overly Impressive from version to version - Annoying Dongle etc But its solid and will serve you well like a good German car with no sports frills since version 5 she dosent complain and likes sports

Sonar 8 - Crap Workflow its like Cluttered Christmas tree. Its has piles of features
that are prematurely released as finished. 
Dont believe the lies that she is easy to get along with yet she has many old secret admirers
You&#039;ll have a love hate relationship with her

Ableton 8 - A live app masquerading as a DAW or a Daw masquerading as a Live App the line is getting thinner with every version but has no staff view and it dosnt play nicely with live musicians audio editing is ok though
For a solo songwriter who likes to dance hip hop or bee bop Shes a Dream companion but if you want a fully fledged DAW go for one of the four above you&#039;ll be more satisfied in the long run and the others will get on better with the rest of your friends in the studio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protools 8 Le or M &#8211; Midi is ok &#8211; Limited hardware choices etc they take their time with releases and when they do put in new technology it works like it should it&#8217;s gettin better on the LE and Powered technology Front<br />
Like a classic beauty she gets away with wearing very little make up cos she has such good jeans (Spelling intended)</p>
<p>Logic 8 &#8211; The Audios ok rest is all good &#8211; Mac only You could get to like this Gal Hey its a apple take a bite if your willing to pay the hardware price But the software is nice.<br />
shes had an extreme makeover looks hotter yet is some how more friendly </p>
<p>Cubase 5 – Not overly Impressive from version to version &#8211; Annoying Dongle etc But its solid and will serve you well like a good German car with no sports frills since version 5 she dosent complain and likes sports</p>
<p>Sonar 8 &#8211; Crap Workflow its like Cluttered Christmas tree. Its has piles of features<br />
that are prematurely released as finished.<br />
Dont believe the lies that she is easy to get along with yet she has many old secret admirers<br />
You&#8217;ll have a love hate relationship with her</p>
<p>Ableton 8 &#8211; A live app masquerading as a DAW or a Daw masquerading as a Live App the line is getting thinner with every version but has no staff view and it dosnt play nicely with live musicians audio editing is ok though<br />
For a solo songwriter who likes to dance hip hop or bee bop Shes a Dream companion but if you want a fully fledged DAW go for one of the four above you&#8217;ll be more satisfied in the long run and the others will get on better with the rest of your friends in the studio</p>
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		<title>By: SI-Coder</title>
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		<dc:creator>SI-Coder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Spinner: For a non-coder you sure know your stuff, legacy code is often laden with bugs/flaws, not to mention the people who coded it introducing more bugs with their old style pattern-less code every time they code.

ADC is a must for pro-tools, it&#039;s the only thing I have against the app. It is by far the best UI for recording and is excellent for working with as well.

However UAD have a delay compensation plugin for protools! Try that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Spinner: For a non-coder you sure know your stuff, legacy code is often laden with bugs/flaws, not to mention the people who coded it introducing more bugs with their old style pattern-less code every time they code.</p>
<p>ADC is a must for pro-tools, it&#8217;s the only thing I have against the app. It is by far the best UI for recording and is excellent for working with as well.</p>
<p>However UAD have a delay compensation plugin for protools! Try that.</p>
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		<title>By: OldHand</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldHand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha n0obs!!
Pro Tools Rules!
Have you seen the method 1 Video?
o_O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha n0obs!!<br />
Pro Tools Rules!<br />
Have you seen the method 1 Video?<br />
o_O</p>
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		<title>By: AnotherDigiUser</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnotherDigiUser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said DigiUser, have any of you guys ever had a Protools demo??
Or seen a Protools HD system in action?
Frankly I am surprised to hear you all gunning down protools without watching those cool videos, they have some awesome plugins which are very well made!
When you buy something from Digidesign I am prety sure you get 90 days free technical support (Free Phone Number)
Also somebody mentioned delay compensation, personally I think it is good to understand how the signal is behaving there a many great delay compensation plugins for protools tho and they are very easy to use!
http://www.mellowmuse.com/Tutorials/ATA-Audio.html
true quality comes at a price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said DigiUser, have any of you guys ever had a Protools demo??<br />
Or seen a Protools HD system in action?<br />
Frankly I am surprised to hear you all gunning down protools without watching those cool videos, they have some awesome plugins which are very well made!<br />
When you buy something from Digidesign I am prety sure you get 90 days free technical support (Free Phone Number)<br />
Also somebody mentioned delay compensation, personally I think it is good to understand how the signal is behaving there a many great delay compensation plugins for protools tho and they are very easy to use!<br />
<a href="http://www.mellowmuse.com/Tutorials/ATA-Audio.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mellowmuse.com/Tutorials/ATA-Audio.html</a><br />
true quality comes at a price.</p>
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		<title>By: DigiUser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DigiUser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jordan314 You get a free upgrade to 8!
But I hear there are now many alternative options, may be worth doing some homework and trying demos ppl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jordan314 You get a free upgrade to 8!<br />
But I hear there are now many alternative options, may be worth doing some homework and trying demos ppl</p>
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		<title>By: BRUNO MARTINO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRUNO MARTINO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in this DIGI nightmare longer that I care to admit. There is more issue&#039;s with 8 than 7.4. It keeps asking to increase the hardware buffer, then after a take is instucts to decrease the hardware buffer, switching back and forth till your head spins. Also lost all my mooger fooger plugs, some bomb factory plugs. And wont load my virtual synths into the instrument tracks via the audio suite plug ins. Rewire seems to be jammed up too. Called their support, and that is a joke. You have to invest an hour in most cases to get a support or registration guy on the phone. And authorizing the 3rd party plugs. That is a complete nightmare. When I was looking for a system the sales person was trying to steer me away from Protools. But I did not want to endure a learning curve. But the time I have invested with DIGI support which by the way has bankers hours. I could have earned a degree. It is a total nightmare. also structure free, did not have any sounds in it.
there is one thing that I did like about Protools was Xpand. I truley love that synth. But my frinds that have Logic and they are blowing out tracks left and right. Meanwhile I am just trying to get this DIGI 003 FACTORY BUNDLE working right. Over priced and probably the worst purchase that I ever made in my life.
I feel like I got hustled by these criminals.
Also it Irks me that i spend all my good time on the phone getting nowhere with DIGI tech support. Because I think they know that they release their products and use their customer base to BETA test their product. My friend has LOGIC and he tells me that their support fix your problems over the internet while he sleeps. That infuriate&#039;s me. Their should be some kind of law against releasing products that are not ready for market and taking their money. If you want a headache buy that factory rack bundle. I am ready to look into LOGIC. I hope that it is a lot less painful than PROTOOL 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in this DIGI nightmare longer that I care to admit. There is more issue&#8217;s with 8 than 7.4. It keeps asking to increase the hardware buffer, then after a take is instucts to decrease the hardware buffer, switching back and forth till your head spins. Also lost all my mooger fooger plugs, some bomb factory plugs. And wont load my virtual synths into the instrument tracks via the audio suite plug ins. Rewire seems to be jammed up too. Called their support, and that is a joke. You have to invest an hour in most cases to get a support or registration guy on the phone. And authorizing the 3rd party plugs. That is a complete nightmare. When I was looking for a system the sales person was trying to steer me away from Protools. But I did not want to endure a learning curve. But the time I have invested with DIGI support which by the way has bankers hours. I could have earned a degree. It is a total nightmare. also structure free, did not have any sounds in it.<br />
there is one thing that I did like about Protools was Xpand. I truley love that synth. But my frinds that have Logic and they are blowing out tracks left and right. Meanwhile I am just trying to get this DIGI 003 FACTORY BUNDLE working right. Over priced and probably the worst purchase that I ever made in my life.<br />
I feel like I got hustled by these criminals.<br />
Also it Irks me that i spend all my good time on the phone getting nowhere with DIGI tech support. Because I think they know that they release their products and use their customer base to BETA test their product. My friend has LOGIC and he tells me that their support fix your problems over the internet while he sleeps. That infuriate&#8217;s me. Their should be some kind of law against releasing products that are not ready for market and taking their money. If you want a headache buy that factory rack bundle. I am ready to look into LOGIC. I hope that it is a lot less painful than PROTOOL 8</p>
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		<title>By: Alrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the years I have used Cubase, Nuendo, Sonar, and Logic (Windows version) and loved them all respectively. After a while though, it got to the point where I was spending more time learning all the bells and whistles than I was actually recording.  I came to the realization that many of the bells and whistles were not needed for what I do; At least not consistently from project to project. 
I decided to jump on the Protools band wagon just to see what all the fuss was about.  I can see why PT is the industry standard.  It is simple and quick to the point.  In the recording industry time is money.  PT saves a lot of time.  Is it the best in terms of features, perhaps not.  But relatively speaking it is very stable and has the core features that I need.  I am a PT convert and have no intention of looking back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years I have used Cubase, Nuendo, Sonar, and Logic (Windows version) and loved them all respectively. After a while though, it got to the point where I was spending more time learning all the bells and whistles than I was actually recording.  I came to the realization that many of the bells and whistles were not needed for what I do; At least not consistently from project to project.<br />
I decided to jump on the Protools band wagon just to see what all the fuss was about.  I can see why PT is the industry standard.  It is simple and quick to the point.  In the recording industry time is money.  PT saves a lot of time.  Is it the best in terms of features, perhaps not.  But relatively speaking it is very stable and has the core features that I need.  I am a PT convert and have no intention of looking back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My biggest gripe with PT is that I find it to be a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS, having to have hardware plugged in to use a program&quot;

Which makes me laugh, because after getting thrown off Logic on the PC by Apple, the hardware I need to run Logic is a Mac.  There&#039;s some irony there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My biggest gripe with PT is that I find it to be a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS, having to have hardware plugged in to use a program&#8221;</p>
<p>Which makes me laugh, because after getting thrown off Logic on the PC by Apple, the hardware I need to run Logic is a Mac.  There&#8217;s some irony there.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:
As a Logic pro user,
I wonder if buying Waves bundles and using them in logic, apart from some sophisticated editing features, make Pro Tools mostly unnecessary in achieving high end results. Anyone?

Cheers.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:<br />
As a Logic pro user,<br />
I wonder if buying Waves bundles and using them in logic, apart from some sophisticated editing features, make Pro Tools mostly unnecessary in achieving high end results. Anyone?</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
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		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Russ

I&#039;m with Marc on this one.  You lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russ</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Marc on this one.  You lose.</p>
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