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Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:58:34 +0000

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By: Flip

Flip — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:11:11 +0000

@rob: It’s not about attacking Mormonism as a religion, it’s more about them keeping their religion to themselves instead of trying to turn their beliefs into state laws which support discrimination. But the real absurdity about this is the Mormon history of polygamy in marriage.

By: Waldo

Waldo — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:33:39 +0000

Peter, you are correct that a progressive tax is endorsed by both R & D. But a tax is a taking of property and a progressive tax is discriminatory, both on an absolute and relative basis. Society has many discriminations, some just, some not so just. We will get there with gay marriage.

Flip, “letting people keep more of what they earn” is not an accurate reflection of the dynamic. It’s the people’s money/property, poor or rich. The government takes it at the will of society at large. They don’t “let” anyone keep their money, any more than a thief “lets” you keep your musical equipment.

By: rob

rob — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:11:39 +0000

I’m shocked by all the morman bashing going on by the no on 8 people after they lost the election. Fight it in the courts and ballot box if you must as that is the right way to address your concerns. I am an agnostic so have no real interest in mormanisism but to attack them as a religion is just dirty and will only increase tensions. Please reconsider the attacks on religion and religious groups. It’s hateful and turns you into real bigots.

Even John Lennon said in Revolution that if you have “minds that hate” you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow. If your reason for supporting gay marriage is love then please SHOW it. Using intimidation and fear will produce the opposite effect to what you desire.

If the Yes on 8 people maintain their cool and show love rather than anger and hate then we will win out in the end.

I would like to point out that if it had not been for so many Obama supporters voting YES on prop 8 it might not have passed. 7 out of 10 black americans voted Yes on 8. Yes we can!

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Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:26:52 +0000

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By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:15:44 +0000

Oh, yeah, and as for “discrimination against the rich” — both the Republican and Democratic Parties advocate progressive taxes in the US. Unless you’re talking independent candidates — H. Ross Perot, Steve Forbes, etc. — all modern major-party candidates are talking about taxes that are weighted to give people with more income a larger share of responsibility.

And no, that’s not remotely related to this unless someone says rich people can’t get married.

None of this is really related to digital music, with one exception: musicians and producers are often self-employed or under-employed. That means they are deeply impacted by policy proposals having to do with health care access.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:12:19 +0000

@Waldo: I think it’s possible to say that the proposition itself is discriminatory and wrong. I don’t see any particular point in name-calling, I agree — partly because of my faith that if they really understood the issue, more of them would have voted against the Proposition. I certainly respect and encourage difference of opinion. But part of the reason the ads on CDM are especially disturbing is that a lot of the advertising *by the same group* has been factually inaccurate. You can’t have respectful, productive disagreement if one side is — how shall we say — unencumbered by facts.

The ads came from protectmarriage.com, and at least one of the banners on CDM suggested education was threatened. That argument as been roundly debunked by California’s government. It’s simply *not true* that voting *against* a ban on currently-protected legal marriage means mandated education on same-sex couples for your kids. (Now, personally, I’d be more than happy to see kids learning about gay couples in schools, but then we can have that debate in a factual environment instead of a made-up one.)

The point I’m hearing from you, though, Waldo, is that the tone should be civil. I absolutely agree. I know it’s tough when passions run high, but that’s even more reason to keep focused on the issues.

And I certainly felt the tone of the ads on CDM was wildly inappropriate, suggesting children are somehow threatened by non-discriminatory marriage.

By: flip

flip — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:28:18 +0000

@Waldo:

Nobody is disrespecting “diversity or free speech” by pointing out gross injustices or a pathetic acceptance of discrimination. Nobody has to “respect” the outcome of a violation of equality either. The “issue” is easily compared to civil right struggles of the 50’s and 60’s: It wasn’t long ago that popular opinion dictated that a white person and a black person could not get married. Wether or not people “get it” does not make it acceptable.

Furthermore, the Obama tax plan of allowing the middle class and the poor to keep more of what they have already earned is NOT discrimination against the wealthy. We have lived under a plutocracy for long enough. It is a pathetic analogy to compare the disgusting denial of gay civil rights to rich people being denied their excessive, greedy tax breaks. You’re damn right Obama won the election. The American people have spoken loud and clear.

Lastly, nobody has to “respect” those who espouse discrimination. It is ugly, despicable and reeks of miseducation and ignorance. This is no “drop of the hat”… This is calling it for what it is: The ugliest side of humanity preventing us all from being fair and ethical.

By: Dave AA

Dave AA — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:10:12 +0000

I guess the subtext here is that Google may have accidentally-on-purpose let the ads appear where they weren’t supposed to because of all the money being paid to them.

“We’re aware of this issue and are taking steps to rectify the problem (as soon as we finish counting our piles of cash.)”

By: Waldo

Waldo — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:41:23 +0000

To all those who resepct diversity and free speech and the will of the people, please respect the outcome of the Prop 8 measure. I voted against Prop 8, but this issue has been tested widely and repeatedly. The people don’t want gay marriage. Give them a few years. They’ll get it. Don’t shove it down their throats. To those who cry discrimination, well society often discriminates and is usually “unfair.” The Obama administration will discriminate against people with high incomes. This is every bit the violation of rights as the prohibition of gay marriage. Doesn’t make it right, but he won the election and he’ll get the chance to make his case. Please respect those who disagree with you and don’t call them bigots, racists, etc. at the drop of the hat.